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Browns go down again


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I've finally got to the point where I'm numbed by all the losing. It's almost like I don't care anymore. Looks like another tear-it-down-and-rebuild-it coming up. Probably going back to 3-4 defense and leaving behind the west coast offense. Of course, we'll need anothe QB. I don't know whther the Browns are best described as "Back to the Future" or "Groundhog Day".


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Poor Browns all them years of no offense and decent defense now the offense is finally starting to come around and now looks like the defense is crumbling,if they could only put it all together in the same game,but it wouldn't seem like Cleveland then.They got another good shot next week to get that first win Browns fans


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dazed&confused wrote:I don't know whther the Browns are best described as "Back to the Future" or "Groundhog Day".
D&C, say it ain't so! Bring back the Dog Avatar.

How about Apocalypse Now?


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Weedons is on pace to break the interception record. I want McCoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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bdubya wrote:
dazed&confused wrote:I don't know whther the Browns are best described as "Back to the Future" or "Groundhog Day".
D&C, say it ain't so! Bring back the Dog Avatar.

How about Apocalypse Now?
Don't know if I saved it. Maybe I should just show a dog terd for this team. :122246


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OZZIEOHIO wrote:Weedons is on pace to break the interception record. I want McCoy!
McCoy had 6 TDs and 9 INTs in 8 games as a rookie.

Weeden has 5 TDs and 9 INTs in 5 games as a rookie. He is also 5 and 5 since Week 1 against the Eagles.

Weeden has 1,288 passing yards and two 300-yard performances, and another 291 effort just last week.

McCoy had one 300-yard game in 21 starts and has 20 TDs and 20 INTs in his career.

Weeden is the guy. Sorry Ozzie.


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Hit it square on the head, Terry Pluto.

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/ind ... cart_river


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Browns are a Pro Ohio team===low about 90% of the time and choke the other 10%


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To me the Browns will always be a team in muddy jerseys plodding across the bare infield in windy, cold Lakefront Stadium. I feel sorry for the fans who can't remember those days and are still holding to the dream. Quite frankly, I don't ever expect much of the Browns anymore. Like the curse of the goat, the curse of firing Paul Brown hangs around this franchise like an albatross. And I'm not even superstitious!


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I miss them clay stained jerseys my self, but I bet the players don't miss them lockerrooms


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As a young boy, I fondly remember the formation of the Dawg Pound, the Kosar era and the Belichick years. My childhood memory fails me during the Kardiac Kids tenure.

The Fumble, The Drive, Marty Schottenheimer getting the ax, Bud Carson, Eric Turner, Kevin Mack and Earnest Byner. Felix Wright sending Don Beebe twirling in the 1989 playoffs and that darn John Elway.

More importantly, it was what my brother and father did on midday Sunday. We had a lot of good times, and some bad ones as well.

When Fart moved the team, I quit watching the NFL - but it wasn't as though I didn't try.

Couldn't follow the Bengals at the time, because they stunk. No way to the Steelers or Ravens. Tried Green Bay and Chicago, but that didn't work.

I just didn't have a team to call my own.

Since 1999 - the year my father died - we've endured the flag to the eye of Zeus, Dwayne Rudd not keeping his helmet on, staph infections and a lack of good football. Still, the Browns are my team. For better or for worse, that will not change.

People often talk about the glorious past, which is honestly all we have had for a while, but I will be proud when my God-awful Browns finally get it going like they did when I started loving them back in the early to mid-80s. I'd much rather put up with bad NFL football than no NFL football at all.

That's almost 30 years of heartache. Come too far to turn back now.

Some day, the Elf will be feared again. Hopefully we'll all be there to see it.


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Not sure if the Browns were just due or they are on the verge of the youth movement coming into its own. This is the best effort I have seen by a Browns team since they beat New England a couple of years ago.


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bdubya wrote:As a young boy, I fondly remember the formation of the Dawg Pound, the Kosar era and the Belichick years. My childhood memory fails me during the Kardiac Kids tenure.

The Fumble, The Drive, Marty Schottenheimer getting the ax, Bud Carson, Eric Turner, Kevin Mack and Earnest Byner. Felix Wright sending Don Beebe twirling in the 1989 playoffs and that darn John Elway.

More importantly, it was what my brother and father did on midday Sunday. We had a lot of good times, and some bad ones as well.

When Fart moved the team, I quit watching the NFL - but it wasn't as though I didn't try.

Couldn't follow the Bengals at the time, because they stunk. No way to the Steelers or Ravens. Tried Green Bay and Chicago, but that didn't work.

I just didn't have a team to call my own.

Since 1999 - the year my father died - we've endured the flag to the eye of Zeus, Dwayne Rudd not keeping his helmet on, staph infections and a lack of good football. Still, the Browns are my team. For better or for worse, that will not change.

People often talk about the glorious past, which is honestly all we have had for a while, but I will be proud when my God-awful Browns finally get it going like they did when I started loving them back in the early to mid-80s. I'd much rather put up with bad NFL football than no NFL football at all.

That's almost 30 years of heartache. Come too far to turn back now.

Some day, the Elf will be feared again. Hopefully we'll all be there to see it.

Just a question, You donot follow the bengals them because they stunk, 2 superbowls in 82 and 88 in that era. ?? That was cincis best years.


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Next up are the Colts, fresh from a butt whippin' by the Jets. Which means.......a letdown. Browns can't win 2 in a row. :oops:


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Browns won and used a variety of RB's. Even when Richardson got banged up some. Do the Browns play well in the upcoming games. They are getting better. When they get some players back on defense maybe they start to win some games.


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ace63 wrote:Just a question, You donot follow the bengals them because they stunk, 2 superbowls in 82 and 88 in that era. ?? That was cincis best years.
I grew up in a Browns family, when the Browns were the storied Browns.

When Fart moved them to Baltimore, that was when I tried watching other teams - with no luck.

That would have been the David Klingler-Kijana Carter-Dan Wilkinson-Mike Shula Bengals I believe. Any questions about how things went during that time period?

I mostly remember football around the 1984 season, which is in between 82 and 88. That was also the time that Bernie, Webster Slaughter, Brian Brennan, Reggie Langhorne, Ozzie Newsome, Clay Matthews (Sr.), Frank Minnifield and Hanford Dixon all started showing up together in Cleveland.

Don't forget, Cleveland made it to a handful of AFC title games in the mid to late 80s. It's not like the Browns of today. I'm also a dog person.

I'm a Cincy guy in a lot of ways. I love WEBN and Skyline cheese coneys, went to UC for a time and I've always been a Reds fan, but I cannot root for the Bengals - unless they are playing the Steelers or Ravens.

I have family that own season tickets at PBS. I was at the PBS opener in 2000 and I went to the Jungle finale at Riverfront in 1999 - with Bengals fans. I have no malice toward the Bengals, I just cannot root for a team that plays second fiddle in a city. The Reds will always own Cincinnati, just like the Browns own Cleveland.

Browns fans still pack the joint despite the last 13 years of crap. Bengals had maybe 3/4ths capacity at PBS with a 3-1 record and Miami in town. That's the difference, and it's always been that way. Brownies are LOYAL.

I've said it before, PBS is the best neutral site in the NFL.

And honestly, outside of the Cubs winning a World Series, what possibly would make for a better story in America than the Browns reaching and winning a Super Bowl? Hope to read about that someday.


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ace63 wrote:Just a question, You donot follow the bengals them because they stunk, 2 superbowls in 82 and 88 in that era. ?? That was cincis best years.
I grew up in a Browns family, when the Browns were the storied Browns.

When Fart moved them to Baltimore, that was when I tried watching other teams - with no luck.

That would have been the David Klingler-Kijana Carter-Dan Wilkinson-Mike Shula Bengals I believe. Any questions about how things went during that time period?

I mostly remember football around the 1984 season, which is in between 82 and 88. That was also the time that Bernie, Webster Slaughter, Brian Brennan, Reggie Langhorne, Ozzie Newsome, Clay Matthews (Sr.), Frank Minnifield and Hanford Dixon all started showing up together in Cleveland.

Don't forget, Cleveland made it to a handful of AFC title games in the mid to late 80s. It's not like the Browns of today. I'm also a dog person.

I'm a Cincy guy in a lot of ways. I love WEBN and Skyline cheese coneys, went to UC for a time and I've always been a Reds fan, but I cannot root for the Bengals - unless they are playing the Steelers or Ravens.

I have family that own season tickets at PBS. I was at the PBS opener in 2000 and I went to the Jungle finale at Riverfront in 1999 - with Bengals fans. I have no malice toward the Bengals, I just cannot root for a team that plays second fiddle in a city. The Reds will always own Cincinnati, just like the Browns own Cleveland.

Browns fans still pack the joint despite the last 13 years of crap. Bengals had maybe 3/4ths capacity at PBS with a 3-1 record and Miami in town. That's the difference, and it's always been that way. Brownies are LOYAL.

I've said it before, PBS is the best neutral site in the NFL.

And honestly, outside of the Cubs winning a World Series, what possibly would make for a better story in America than the Browns reaching and winning a Super Bowl? Hope to read about that someday.
Bengals fans dont fill the statium if the product is bad, less ticket sales force mamagment to fix team faster, If statium is full all the time with losing team, why fix it, got ticket sales and dont have to spend alot of money on players, I think thats what art thought. But he was an A**


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The Browns now have an owner who has the money and a plan. He doesn't need sell outs like Brown. But he will demand performance and a plan to get there unlike Lerner.


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dazed&confused wrote:The Browns now have an owner who has the money and a plan. He doesn't need sell outs like Brown. But he will demand performance and a plan to get there unlike Lerner.
I heard the same thing from the last owner.


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