Well If I remenber minford is always 1 and done in the playoffs so why would you brag about that In the big boy league has minford gone 10-0 and the 3rd round in playoffs dont think so.!!!!Bleeding Red wrote:Minford made the playoffs what, 4 straight years in a row? They have a down year and all of a sudden Here 4 Fun cant remember just going back 4-5 years ago Valley was down and went 4-6 in 07. 5-5 in 06 Funny how a good year erases the memories, isnt it? Just remember the worm always turns.
So is your wife gonna let you go watch the ballgame Friday or do you have to take her shopping?
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Re: Minford (2-0) at Piketon (2-0)
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I think if the Falcons had valley's average non-conference schedule they might have, one thing is for certain, teams like Burg, West, and Minford do not have to go 9-1 or 10-0 just to sniff the playoffs because of having a few sleep walks. As was said above the Indians are 1-5 vs. The falcons since joining the SOC II, so I wouldn't get to cheery just yet.Here4Fun wrote:Well If I remenber minford is always 1 and done in the playoffs so why would you brag about that In the big boy league has minford gone 10-0 and the 3rd round in playoffs dont think so.!!!!Bleeding Red wrote:Minford made the playoffs what, 4 straight years in a row? They have a down year and all of a sudden Here 4 Fun cant remember just going back 4-5 years ago Valley was down and went 4-6 in 07. 5-5 in 06 Funny how a good year erases the memories, isnt it? Just remember the worm always turns.
So is your wife gonna let you go watch the ballgame Friday or do you have to take her shopping?
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And looking at the numbers that dont lie, Valley is 10-15 since joining the big boy conference when excluding Northwest from the mix.
The are a whopping 2-12 vs Burg and Minford, with BOTH of those wins coming from last year.
Playoff appearances since Valley joined the SOC II: West 4, Minford 4, Burg 3, Waverly 2, Valley 1.
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The are a whopping 2-12 vs Burg and Minford, with BOTH of those wins coming from last year.
Playoff appearances since Valley joined the SOC II: West 4, Minford 4, Burg 3, Waverly 2, Valley 1.
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Valley has been to the playoffs 2 times since 2002 and Valley and minford are 5-5 with each other since then so why do you think minford is so much better than Valley each time valley makes it to the playoffs thay go farther than minford and five out of the last 10 years Valley finished better than minford and tied 2 of them so next time you run your mouth know your facts "idiot".!!!!!!Bleeding Red wrote:And looking at the numbers that dont lie, Valley is 10-15 since joining the big boy conference when excluding Northwest from the mix.
The are a whopping 2-12 vs Burg and Minford, with BOTH of those wins coming from last year.
Playoff appearances since Valley joined the SOC II: West 4, Minford 4, Burg 3, Waverly 2, Valley 1.
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Re: Minford (2-0) at Piketon (2-0)
Hey, This looks like a tennis match...........................WHERES THE LOVE.......LOL 

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Back when Valley played Green, ND, East, Stevie Wonder Blind School, etc.....they had a cakewalk schedule. They were way less beat up toward the end of the year when they actually played an SOC II school.Here4Fun wrote:Valley has been to the playoffs 2 times since 2002 and Valley and minford are 5-5 with each other since then so why do you think minford is so much better than Valley each time valley makes it to the playoffs thay go farther than minford and five out of the last 10 years Valley finished better than minford and tied 2 of them so next time you run your mouth know your facts "idiot".!!!!!!Bleeding Red wrote:And looking at the numbers that dont lie, Valley is 10-15 since joining the big boy conference when excluding Northwest from the mix.
The are a whopping 2-12 vs Burg and Minford, with BOTH of those wins coming from last year.
Playoff appearances since Valley joined the SOC II: West 4, Minford 4, Burg 3, Waverly 2, Valley 1.
"Never argue with an idiot. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
Since joining the BIG BOY LEAGUE and running the GAUNTLET like the rest of the SOC II schools the final 5 weeks of the year they are 2-12 vs Burg and Minford and have made the playoffs the least amount of times since doing so (except for NW). Those are the facts. Cant dispute the numbers since Valley moved up to SOC II. Congrats for them moving up, but it is much harder to win in this league than it was in SOC I.
If Valley keeps competing for the league and making the playoffs while in the SOC II then we'll talk. Until then, last year was the highlight reel for the last 6 years. Nobody is putting Valley down, just stating the facts. Last year they were really really really good. They lost a boatload of talent and I for one an not sold on them yet being any where near the level they were last year.
I hope Valley wins out and the league title comes down to the last game of the season. I would much rather go watch Minford and Valley play for a gold football than let Burg and West be playing for it week 10.
Re: Minford (2-0) at Piketon (2-0)
Well I am glad to see that someone else is as confused as I am. I don't understand it either. The linemen just lay down, and don't even try to make the tackle. I guess they are hoping they just trip over our D-line. One thing for sure, Wellston was able to avoid them laying on the ground!!!Badboy wrote:well finally made it to a minford game last week and thought they looked real good except for some critical key penalties. there is one thing that im still scratchin my head about. At first glance i thought the big guys up front on the defensive line were slippin and fallin down. As the game went on it looked like they were jsut fallin down to block the hole up. Was my eyes seein things or is that realy what they were doin? Seemed like it didnt work. Seemed like they were better off taking the o linemen back into the play which was blowin the play up! then they started fallin down again! Never seen anything like it.
gotta go with the birds from minford in this game. wish I could be there to see it.
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Re: Minford (2-0) at Piketon (2-0)
Special teams and the defense will have their work cut out for them tomorrow. Piketon likes to pass and this is probably what they will be doing, but they might mixed it up and keep it on the ground and our defensive line needs to close the holes. This is a much better Piketon team than we have faced in a couple years. If we continue to play a good solid game and keep the penalities down I think Minford will win this one in a close game.
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Please start a Valley vs. Minford thread as I had to read a lot of garbage before getting to this point. Back to the game, this should be a dandy and tough to call. Looks like the real issue is the computer points that will be gained by the winner of this game as both Minford and Piketon should do quite well in their respective leagues. Looking forward to the best game in the area tonight.
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No love loss between Valley and Minford! lol
Now, the game between Piketon and Minford should be fun tonight. Will weather make a difference, chance of rain for tonight? I have watched game film on the Falcons, they are solid on offense. Misdirection and good ball fakes makes a defense sit. Piketon needs to be aggressive on defense and dont give up big plays. On offense, the Streaks just need to keep on doing what they do. There probably isnt a more balanced team in the area. Brabson is completing in the high 60% range and around 200 yards a game. This, like running the wing t keeps defenses on their heels.
Should be a dandy in the village tonight! Lets Go Streaks~!
Now, the game between Piketon and Minford should be fun tonight. Will weather make a difference, chance of rain for tonight? I have watched game film on the Falcons, they are solid on offense. Misdirection and good ball fakes makes a defense sit. Piketon needs to be aggressive on defense and dont give up big plays. On offense, the Streaks just need to keep on doing what they do. There probably isnt a more balanced team in the area. Brabson is completing in the high 60% range and around 200 yards a game. This, like running the wing t keeps defenses on their heels.
Should be a dandy in the village tonight! Lets Go Streaks~!
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Re: Minford (2-0) at Piketon (2-0)
will be a good game i made it up to watch piketon against waverly and in the second half they really figured things out minford will have a hard time stopping there dynamic offense but if this was vegas i would pick piketon by a two point conversion close one in the village tonight!
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I know this dont mean much but its fun to look at and they are usually pretty accurate. They have Minford favored by 10 against Piketon. http://fantastic50.net/index.php?pr=Ohio
#306 Minford (2-0) 104.6
Ranked #37 of 122 in Division IV, #8 in Region 15
Overall strength-of-schedule 0.213, #608 toughest (of 718)
Division IV strength-of-schedule 0.245, #105 toughest (of 122)
Win total probabilities: 5W-7% 6W-21% 7W-32% 8W-27% 9W-10%
Harbin projections (ranges): 4W-7.2(4.9-11.9) 5W-9.6(5.7-14.1) 6W-12.3(7.5-17.5) 7W-14.9(10.2-20.4) 8W-17.8(12.9-24.1) 9W-20.7(16.3-25.1) 10W-23.9(20.6-27.0)
Playoff probabilities: 5W-2% 6W-26% 7W-79% 8W-99% 9W-100% 10W-100%
Home game probabilities: 6W-1% 7W-13% 8W-58% 9W-95% 10W-100%
Seed projections (ranges): 5W-#out (#5-#out) 6W-#out (#2-#out) 7W-#7 (#1-#out) 8W-#4 (#1-#out) 9W-#3 (#1-#8) 10W-#2 (#1-#4)
Projected 15.40 Harbin points (divisor 100), projected #4 seed (best #1, worst out)
Playoff chance 69% (control own destiny), 31% chance of a home game (control own destiny)
1st round opponents: Martins Ferry 14%, Ironton 13%, St Clairsville 13%, Amanda-Clearcreek (Amanda) 9%, Johnstown-Monroe (Johnstown) 9%
Week 1: Won 40-0 H vs #584 Rock Hill (Ironton) (0-2, D5 R19), pick: W by 13
Week 2: Won 38-19 A vs #525 Wellston (0-2, D4 R15), pick: W by 5
Week 3: A vs #455 Piketon (2-0, D4 R15) 69% W (10 pts)
Week 4: H vs #370 Portsmouth (1-1, D4 R15) 63% W (6 pts)
Week 5: H vs #364 Oak Hill (2-0, D5 R19) 62% W (6 pts)
Week 6: H vs #434 Portsmouth West (West Portsmouth) (0-2, D5 R19) 73% W (11 pts)
Week 7: A vs #689 Northwest (Mc Dermott) (0-2, D4 R15) 95% W (31 pts)
Week 8: A vs #236 Wheelersburg (1-1, D5 R19) 65% L (7 pts)
Week 9: H vs #561 Waverly (0-2, D4 R15) 87% W (21 pts)
Week 10: A vs #175 Valley (Lucasville) (2-0, D5 R19) 75% L (13 pts)
Pre: 95.6 (#433, #59 in D4, divisor 100, berth 25%, home 6%, proj. out) 4W-8.4H-1% 5W-10.6H-6% 6W-13.1H-38% 7W-15.4H-83%-#6 8W-18.1H-99%-#4 9W-20.6H-100%-#2
Week 1: 99.3 (#371, #47 in D4, divisor 100, berth 42%, home 15%, proj. out) 4W-7.7H-1% 5W-10.1H-2% 6W-12.6H-26% 7W-15.1H-76%-#7 8W-17.7H-98%-#4 9W-20.6H-100%-#2 10W-23.7H-100%-#2
Week 2: 104.6 (#306, #37 in D4, divisor 100, berth 69%, home 31%, proj. #4 seed) 5W-9.6H-2% 6W-12.3H-26% 7W-14.9H-79%-#7 8W-17.8H-99%-#4 9W-20.7H-100%-#3 10W-23.9H-100%-#2
#306 Minford (2-0) 104.6
Ranked #37 of 122 in Division IV, #8 in Region 15
Overall strength-of-schedule 0.213, #608 toughest (of 718)
Division IV strength-of-schedule 0.245, #105 toughest (of 122)
Win total probabilities: 5W-7% 6W-21% 7W-32% 8W-27% 9W-10%
Harbin projections (ranges): 4W-7.2(4.9-11.9) 5W-9.6(5.7-14.1) 6W-12.3(7.5-17.5) 7W-14.9(10.2-20.4) 8W-17.8(12.9-24.1) 9W-20.7(16.3-25.1) 10W-23.9(20.6-27.0)
Playoff probabilities: 5W-2% 6W-26% 7W-79% 8W-99% 9W-100% 10W-100%
Home game probabilities: 6W-1% 7W-13% 8W-58% 9W-95% 10W-100%
Seed projections (ranges): 5W-#out (#5-#out) 6W-#out (#2-#out) 7W-#7 (#1-#out) 8W-#4 (#1-#out) 9W-#3 (#1-#8) 10W-#2 (#1-#4)
Projected 15.40 Harbin points (divisor 100), projected #4 seed (best #1, worst out)
Playoff chance 69% (control own destiny), 31% chance of a home game (control own destiny)
1st round opponents: Martins Ferry 14%, Ironton 13%, St Clairsville 13%, Amanda-Clearcreek (Amanda) 9%, Johnstown-Monroe (Johnstown) 9%
Week 1: Won 40-0 H vs #584 Rock Hill (Ironton) (0-2, D5 R19), pick: W by 13
Week 2: Won 38-19 A vs #525 Wellston (0-2, D4 R15), pick: W by 5
Week 3: A vs #455 Piketon (2-0, D4 R15) 69% W (10 pts)
Week 4: H vs #370 Portsmouth (1-1, D4 R15) 63% W (6 pts)
Week 5: H vs #364 Oak Hill (2-0, D5 R19) 62% W (6 pts)
Week 6: H vs #434 Portsmouth West (West Portsmouth) (0-2, D5 R19) 73% W (11 pts)
Week 7: A vs #689 Northwest (Mc Dermott) (0-2, D4 R15) 95% W (31 pts)
Week 8: A vs #236 Wheelersburg (1-1, D5 R19) 65% L (7 pts)
Week 9: H vs #561 Waverly (0-2, D4 R15) 87% W (21 pts)
Week 10: A vs #175 Valley (Lucasville) (2-0, D5 R19) 75% L (13 pts)
Pre: 95.6 (#433, #59 in D4, divisor 100, berth 25%, home 6%, proj. out) 4W-8.4H-1% 5W-10.6H-6% 6W-13.1H-38% 7W-15.4H-83%-#6 8W-18.1H-99%-#4 9W-20.6H-100%-#2
Week 1: 99.3 (#371, #47 in D4, divisor 100, berth 42%, home 15%, proj. out) 4W-7.7H-1% 5W-10.1H-2% 6W-12.6H-26% 7W-15.1H-76%-#7 8W-17.7H-98%-#4 9W-20.6H-100%-#2 10W-23.7H-100%-#2
Week 2: 104.6 (#306, #37 in D4, divisor 100, berth 69%, home 31%, proj. #4 seed) 5W-9.6H-2% 6W-12.3H-26% 7W-14.9H-79%-#7 8W-17.8H-99%-#4 9W-20.7H-100%-#3 10W-23.9H-100%-#2
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Re: Minford (2-0) at Piketon (2-0)
Going to be a great game. but piketon is going to pull through with this one. their offence is just too good. a lot of key players: Williams, Ferguson, Brabson, Royster, Waddel, and a good O-Line. Defence can make stops too! they just need to tackle and create turnovers.
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Re: Minford (2-0) at Piketon (2-0)
nutronron2012 wrote:I know this dont mean much but its fun to look at and they are usually pretty accurate. They have Minford favored by 10 against Piketon. http://fantastic50.net/index.php?pr=Ohio
#306 Minford (2-0) 104.6
Ranked #37 of 122 in Division IV, #8 in Region 15
Overall strength-of-schedule 0.213, #608 toughest (of 718)
Division IV strength-of-schedule 0.245, #105 toughest (of 122)
Win total probabilities: 5W-7% 6W-21% 7W-32% 8W-27% 9W-10%
Harbin projections (ranges): 4W-7.2(4.9-11.9) 5W-9.6(5.7-14.1) 6W-12.3(7.5-17.5) 7W-14.9(10.2-20.4) 8W-17.8(12.9-24.1) 9W-20.7(16.3-25.1) 10W-23.9(20.6-27.0)
Playoff probabilities: 5W-2% 6W-26% 7W-79% 8W-99% 9W-100% 10W-100%
Home game probabilities: 6W-1% 7W-13% 8W-58% 9W-95% 10W-100%
Seed projections (ranges): 5W-#out (#5-#out) 6W-#out (#2-#out) 7W-#7 (#1-#out) 8W-#4 (#1-#out) 9W-#3 (#1-#8) 10W-#2 (#1-#4)
Projected 15.40 Harbin points (divisor 100), projected #4 seed (best #1, worst out)
Playoff chance 69% (control own destiny), 31% chance of a home game (control own destiny)
1st round opponents: Martins Ferry 14%, Ironton 13%, St Clairsville 13%, Amanda-Clearcreek (Amanda) 9%, Johnstown-Monroe (Johnstown) 9%
Week 1: Won 40-0 H vs #584 Rock Hill (Ironton) (0-2, D5 R19), pick: W by 13
Week 2: Won 38-19 A vs #525 Wellston (0-2, D4 R15), pick: W by 5
Week 3: A vs #455 Piketon (2-0, D4 R15) 69% W (10 pts)
Week 4: H vs #370 Portsmouth (1-1, D4 R15) 63% W (6 pts)
Week 5: H vs #364 Oak Hill (2-0, D5 R19) 62% W (6 pts)
Week 6: H vs #434 Portsmouth West (West Portsmouth) (0-2, D5 R19) 73% W (11 pts)
Week 7: A vs #689 Northwest (Mc Dermott) (0-2, D4 R15) 95% W (31 pts)
Week 8: A vs #236 Wheelersburg (1-1, D5 R19) 65% L (7 pts)
Week 9: H vs #561 Waverly (0-2, D4 R15) 87% W (21 pts)
Week 10: A vs #175 Valley (Lucasville) (2-0, D5 R19) 75% L (13 pts)
Pre: 95.6 (#433, #59 in D4, divisor 100, berth 25%, home 6%, proj. out) 4W-8.4H-1% 5W-10.6H-6% 6W-13.1H-38% 7W-15.4H-83%-#6 8W-18.1H-99%-#4 9W-20.6H-100%-#2
Week 1: 99.3 (#371, #47 in D4, divisor 100, berth 42%, home 15%, proj. out) 4W-7.7H-1% 5W-10.1H-2% 6W-12.6H-26% 7W-15.1H-76%-#7 8W-17.7H-98%-#4 9W-20.6H-100%-#2 10W-23.7H-100%-#2
Week 2: 104.6 (#306, #37 in D4, divisor 100, berth 69%, home 31%, proj. #4 seed) 5W-9.6H-2% 6W-12.3H-26% 7W-14.9H-79%-#7 8W-17.8H-99%-#4 9W-20.7H-100%-#3 10W-23.9H-100%-#2
Quite entertaining, but meaningless. At the week 3 point in the year it is impossible to come up with legitimate numbers. But it will be interesting to see how it plays out and how close they really are.
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