Week 4: Portsmouth @ Minford

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Here4Fun wrote:
Badboy wrote:
Here4Fun wrote:I see Portsmouth upsetting minford in this one. Valley and Burg beat Portsmouth and the will be ready and they are much tougher than piketon which minford struggled to beat. Portsmouth has not been beaten by minford and they want to keep it that way even as bad as they lost last week this is a new game Clifford's job maybe on the line.....
this may win the stupidest post of the year award. congrats! just because valley and burg beat them doesnt mean squat.

piketon will go 9-1 or 8-2 this year and quite possibly be a playoff team.

again, congrats on your award :roll:
Piketon plays nobody Minford is the toughest team on their schedule thats why they will go 9-1 or 8-2 let them play Burg or Valley this year then you can say they are tough. Piketon looked ok in the Valley scrimmage but they would never beat them or burg You can stick your stupidest post of the year award where the sun dont shine :mrgreen:
Looked at Calpreps projections just for fun. Says Valley would beat Piketon 42-12 and Burg would beat Piketon 35-14. Cant place much stock in Calpreps but shows you where they put Piketon.


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Cal Prep does not take in account talent, they look at past history, margin of victory, and sos. I assure this is not a typical Piketon team, I would be more than shocked if they lose more than 1 or 2 games and head to the playoffs.


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NewEra wrote:Cal Prep does not take in account talent, they look at past history, margin of victory, and sos. I assure this is not a typical Piketon team, I would be more than shocked if they lose more than 1 or 2 games and head to the playoffs.
Agreed. Cal preps puts too much stock on the previous success. Not saying that Valley and Burg couldnt beat Piketon, but Piketon is a very talented team that throws the ball very well. They have by far the best line I have seen this year (outside of Minford).

I think Minford will have success running the ball right at Portsmouth tomorrow night. If they protect the ball, that will allow them to keep Portsmouth's offense off the field and wear out Ptowns defense. Essentially that is what they did to Piketon, who could move the ball in a hurry when on offense. Minford had some huge knee buckling blocks against Piketon's LB's......look for more of that this week.

I think that long, physical drives will lead to:

Portsmouth 14
Minford 28


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I have to agree with Tobias. Portsmouth simply has a mental block when it comes to playing Wheelersburg. Under Clifford, they have to be much, more talented than Wheelersburg to beat them. Look at 2009, a Portsmouth team that beat West and went 7-3 (almost making the playoffs), was destroyed 66-7 by Burg. I think that in addition to Portsmouth, Valley, and previously Minford and West simply do not expected to beat Burg. I think that "Burg Effect" is slowly being removed by the latter 3, but Portsmouth clearly hasn't broken it.

With that being said, I think that Portsmouth is somewhere in between how they played against West and how they played against Valley as far talent/skill. If they even there emotions, settle down, and play football they could not only complete, but win. The key against Minford for Portsmouth will be disciplined play from their defense. Historically, Portsmouth wants to be very aggressive defensively. Unless you have far superior athletes and can physicallly man-handle a team, the Wing-t is designed to beat defenses such as Portsmouth. For Minford, the Short trap to Fullback should be good all night. Portsmouth's only hope is stop the toss and the buck, which could be possible because the team speed and athleticism. Offensively, Portsmouth just has to get their speed in space and create big plays. You can't coach the natural big play speed Portsmouth has (which that combined with discipline is also why Burg shut them down). Also, look for Portsmouth to score at least one Kickoff return for touchdown.

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P-town 19


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sider wrote:I have to agree with Tobias. Portsmouth simply has a mental block when it comes to playing Wheelersburg. Under Clifford, they have to be much, more talented than Wheelersburg to beat them. Look at 2009, a Portsmouth team that beat West and went 7-3 (almost making the playoffs), was destroyed 66-7 by Burg. I think that in addition to Portsmouth, Valley, and previously Minford and West simply do not expected to beat Burg. I think that "Burg Effect" is slowly being removed by the latter 3, but Portsmouth clearly hasn't broken it.

With that being said, I think that Portsmouth is somewhere in between how they played against West and how they played against Valley as far talent/skill. If they even there emotions, settle down, and play football they could not only complete, but win. The key against Minford for Portsmouth will be disciplined play from their defense. Historically, Portsmouth wants to be very aggressive defensively. Unless you have far superior athletes and can physicallly man-handle a team, the Wing-t is designed to beat defenses such as Portsmouth. For Minford, the Short trap to Fullback should be good all night. Portsmouth's only hope is stop the toss and the buck, which could be possible because the team speed and athleticism. Offensively, Portsmouth just has to get their speed in space and create big plays. You can't coach the natural big play speed Portsmouth has (which that combined with discipline is also why Burg shut them down). Also, look for Portsmouth to score at least one Kickoff return for touchdown.

Minford 33
P-town 19
Good insight sider, however I may disagree on the kick return statement as it is not uncommon for Josh Parsons the Falcon's kicker to place ball near the endzone or inside the 10 yard line on every kickoff, as well as nailing home to 30 plus yard field goals vs. Wellston.


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If Minford can get some touchbacks, it will definitely take away one of Portsmouth biggest threats. West's kicker Dials did a good job of pinning Portsmouth deep on kickoffs, however Robinson (or whoever was returning) still gave them great field position. They've returned kicks vs. Valley and Burg, so their Kickoff return is definitely a threat. Also, in my opinion Portsmouth has to feed Johnny Charles to win. He might be the best running back in the county, he is so slippery, he must utilized.


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sider wrote:If Minford can get some touchbacks, it will definitely take away one of Portsmouth biggest threats. West's kicker Dials did a good job of pinning Portsmouth deep on kickoffs, however Robinson (or whoever was returning) still gave them great field position. They've returned kicks vs. Valley and Burg, so their Kickoff return is definitely a threat. Also, in my opinion Portsmouth has to feed Johnny Charles to win. He might be the best running back in the county, he is so slippery, he must utilized.
Yeah that will be interesting about Charles, I was told he lead the team in rushing one game, and didn't get the rock hardly at all the next game. I am sure the Falcon staff will have their eye on this development as well throughout the game.


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NewEra wrote:Cal Prep does not take in account talent, they look at past history, margin of victory, and sos. I assure this is not a typical Piketon team, I would be more than shocked if they lose more than 1 or 2 games and head to the playoffs.
Dont get mad. I said just looking for fun. I put no stock at all in calpreps or any other identical sites. But I have seen Piketon when Valley scrimmaged them and Notre Dame scrimmaged them. And I also watched them scrimmage Portsmouth. And Piketon by far had the worst defense i have seen all year. Even worse than Rock Hill. But they had a very nice looking Offense. Just play a weak schedule. If Piketon was in the SOCII, They would be lucky to be 3-3 probably be more like 2-4. JMO


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nutronron2012 wrote:
NewEra wrote:Cal Prep does not take in account talent, they look at past history, margin of victory, and sos. I assure this is not a typical Piketon team, I would be more than shocked if they lose more than 1 or 2 games and head to the playoffs.
Dont get mad. I said just looking for fun. I put no stock at all in calpreps or any other identical sites. But I have seen Piketon when Valley scrimmaged them and Notre Dame scrimmaged them. And I also watched them scrimmage Portsmouth. And Piketon by far had the worst defense i have seen all year. Even worse than Rock Hill. But they had a very nice looking Offense. Just play a weak schedule. If Piketon was in the SOCII, They would be lucky to be 3-3 probably be more like 2-4. JMO
I strongly disagree. Scrimmages are just that... scrimmages. Worse defense than Rock Hill? You are demonstrating a relative lack of knowledge of the game with a statement like that. If that was true, than Minford would of hung 40 on Piketon as well.


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Adding scores like that never works. Plus Minford played Rock Hill at Home and played Piketon on the road. Minford Beat Piketon. That game is over. I'm just saying if Piketon was in the SOC II. They would be lucky to win very many. It wouldnt be a cakewalk.


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On one hand I would like to see Portsmouth win this on but on the other hand I would like to see Oakhill put one on the undefeated mighty minford falcons.....!!!!!!


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I really hope we are done with our pissing match cause I'm really tired of reading all this crap.

Don't know what is going on with Portsmouth's football program, but I really hope their players are not reading all this negativity about their team. From experience last year and we all know that the Falcons did not have the season they thought they would. I'm sure the Portsmouth players are not happy about how their season is going either, but they don't need to keep reading it on here about them and the coach. Now that I have said this I'm moving onto the game tomorrow.

This is not going to be an easy game for Minford by any means. We committed to many mistakes against Piketon and it almost bit us in the ass. We can not do this tomorrow. Portsmouth has good players and so does Minford and this is going to be a good game. Minford has alot of weapons in their arsenal, which they will use. Portsmouth is wanting to keep their win streak alive against Minford.

I think Minford will break the streak tomorrow.


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I agree with 2013 Falcon , all this whining about the "troubled infrastructure " is not what this thread is about .sounds like excuse's for a loss that hasn't happened yet, IMO Falcon's by 2 scores. Good luck to both teams


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Kicking it deep to Portsmouth speed is not smart...Burgs kicker can make 50 yard field goals but did not even try to kick deep. Kick shallow to around 30 and towards sideline and have better containment...would not give them 15 untouched yards to build up steam!


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Minford big here ,P-town needs changes.


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This thread is so sad, between the people talking about how bad Portsmouth is, and how bad my Falcons are, why even play the game. We all know that Clifford is not the greatest coach, if he was, he would have at least 2 State Titles by now. He coaches the same way he did when he was making the play-offs every year. So far they just haven't got things together yet. But I think they will come out tomorrow fired up and ready to play.
As for my Falcons, from what I am reading on this thread, could not beat anybody! I was feeling pretty good about beating a real good Piketon team, until I read this thread. From what everyone says Piketon should just give up football, and take up horse back riding!!!
But I don't think so, I think Piketon has a real good team, and will be in the play-offs this year. They have as good a QB as anybody, and better than most. And they have the best bunch of pass-blockers as I have seen in a long time.
But as for this game, this will be a war. Both teams will be ready. I think Portsmouth will have a hard time stopping our run. We have too many weapons. I don't really know much about Portsmouth, but I think my Falcons will pull this one out. It will be close, but the Falcons showed alot of Heart last week, I think that will help them win this one too!!!


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GAMEDAY! Ready for a great game tonight. We're finally starting to get the "fall weather feel", cannot wait. Good luck to both teams.


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sider wrote:I have to agree with Tobias. Portsmouth simply has a mental block when it comes to playing Wheelersburg. Under Clifford, they have to be much, more talented than Wheelersburg to beat them. Look at 2009, a Portsmouth team that beat West and went 7-3 (almost making the playoffs), was destroyed 66-7 by Burg. I think that in addition to Portsmouth, Valley, and previously Minford and West simply do not expected to beat Burg. I think that "Burg Effect" is slowly being removed by the latter 3, but Portsmouth clearly hasn't broken it.
you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better :aaaaa59


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Well its finally gameday!

Is Portsmouth physical enough up front to stop Minford's running game ? Can their secondary make open field tackles and defend the pass?

Can Minford keep Portsmouth's speed and athletes at bay and contain the speed? Will Minford's defensive interior stop Charles from picking up yards and moving the sticks?

We will find out soon enough!

Good luck both teams on a hard fought, injury free game tonight!


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Bleeding Red wrote:Well its finally gameday!

Is Portsmouth physical enough up front to stop Minford's running game ? NO. Can their secondary make open field tackles and defend the pass? NO.

Can Minford keep Portsmouth's speed and athletes at bay and contain the speed? YES. Will Minford's defensive interior stop Charles from picking up yards and moving the sticks? YES

We will find out soon enough!

Good luck both teams on a hard fought, injury free game tonight!
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