West Point Same Sex Marriage

[Kentucky Trojan]

Did the Constitution change?...NO.........religion is , was and always will be a private matter......And the Government is not telling you have to stop doing something to practice your religion, but do not presuppose you have the right to tell people they can NOT marry based on YOUR religious beliefs..........That is simply the height of pomposity...........Nowhere is God mentioned in the Constitution.......It even says specifically , " but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States" . ........God was put into the pledge in '54, during the red scare........And even saying the pledge is voluntary everywhere..........Marriage is a right of two people in love..... :12224

[Kentucky Trojan]

Yes, why? you met the definition or requirement God put in place. The state has always done this

Until 1863, the state recognized runaway slaves as property. Was that right? Until 1965, "seperate but equal" was the law in many southern states. Was that right? And as pertains to my marriage, God had nothing to do with it. Laws prohibiting gay marriage will be as quaint as Jim Crow in my lifetime. Just sayin'. You may not like it, but it will be legal one day. Soon.

...and if all 50 states are forced to accept it, then there will be a full-scale revolution in this country...

[kantuckyII]

Yes, why? you met the definition or requirement God put in place. The state has always done this

Until 1863, the state recognized runaway slaves as property. Was that right? Until 1965, "seperate but equal" was the law in many southern states. Was that right? And as pertains to my marriage, God had nothing to do with it. Laws prohibiting gay marriage will be as quaint as Jim Crow in my lifetime. Just sayin'. You may not like it, but it will be legal one day. Soon.

You really have answered your own question. God's law always trumps mans

[abuck76]

Marriage is ONLY religious whenYOU make it...........Marriage is and always has been secular........That is what you will never understand.......No one is taking anything from you...But you are trying to push your beliefs onto everyone........Be religious....worship any God you wish......... :12224

[kantuckyII]

I am asking you again Abuck, what is a wrong a civil union?

[abuck76]

It is discriminatory!!....Two people that love each other, let them marry........That does not hurt your religion or you or the way you worship.......It does not effect you in any way.......It is that easy......But I do understand your theocratic beliefs get in the way of you EVER thinking rationally......... :12224

[ManitouDan]

It is discriminatory!!....Two people that love each other, let them marry........That does not hurt your religion or you or the way you worship.......It does not effect you in any way.......It is that easy......But I do understand your theocratic beliefs get in the way of you EVER thinking rationally......... :12224

according to that exact set of reasoning I could marry my daughter or my daschound. I could love either , doesnt hurt anyones religion , doest effect worship, just Let me be me .... right ?

[abuck76]

Once again showing your propensity to be extreme and to obfuscate ......... :12224

[Kentucky Trojan]

Once again showing your propensity to be extreme and to obfuscate ......... :12224

No, abuck...

...once again, you are talking about yourself...

...we are dancing around the issue, but that guilt that we all have is commonly called sin...

[kantuckyII]

It's discriminatory to expect millions upon millions to accept two people of the same sex are married who know they're not. They are simply trying to force us to accept it. They are trying to take our religious freedom away from us. They are trying to make us say, people it's okay that you do this, there is nothing wrong with it. Mark my words, soon it will be labeled as hate speech to preach the Word of God, even in church!

Dan asked you a serious legitimate question. Furthermore, what about polygamy? If you're willing to accept same-sex marriage, then why not polygamy as well? I mean, if you want toss out rules then how could you stop anyone else from adding/changing the rules as well? I think maybe you're just a hypocrite Abuck?

[abuck76]

I am being as simplistic as possible.....md was simply showing who he is Someone who uses no no substantive argument.....I am nor have I ever danced around the argument..........O.K. Will you admit that not every American is a religious person, let alone a Christian?...I am sure you can.....That is why our country and its laws are secular.........Plain and simple as I can make it...........Two people in our society who love each other , and want to marry, is not the business of the church......If you think they are wrong, pray for them, denounce them, but do not presuppose you have any authority to stop them.......... :12224

[Kentucky Trojan]

If you think they are wrong, pray for them, denounce them, but do not presuppose you have any authority to stop them.......... :12224

Your hippie generation is not the only one who can play civil disobedience or revolution. (BTW, thanks hippies for these problems that we now have in our nation.)

There will be a revolution if this continues on any further.

Mark my words!!!!!

[Kentucky Trojan]

The following was the single most asked-for map, and we’ll publish it, though there aren’t many surprises:

Is homosexuality a sin?




346,925 people have answered

A state’s skew on this question very closely reflects how it voted in the 2008 election. With the exception of Arizona for obvious reasons, the relatively “No” states voted for Obama and the “Yes” ones voted for McCain.

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/sweet ... an-trends/

[abuck76]

You are but an example of a small disgruntled group that believes they know the best for everyone.........The problem you and your ilk is we live in a democracy.............We have always had groups like you, and there will always be groups like you.........But we will continue to grow and prosper in spite of you.........This country does not want your anti everything attitude...........We never have.........That is why equality, fairness and diversity have been growing since we started this great experiment........It will continue to grow.......face it, things are getting better in spite of your kind.........Do not worry, be happy........ :12224

[Kentucky Trojan]

You are but an example of a small disgruntled group that believes they know the best for everyone.........The problem you and your ilk is we live in a democracy.............We have always had groups like you, and there will always be groups like you.........But we will continue to grow and prosper in spite of you.........This country does not want your anti everything attitude...........We never have.........That is why equality, fairness and diversity have been growing since we started this great experiment........It will continue to grow.......face it, things are getting better in spite of your kind.........Do not worry, be happy........ :12224

"getting better"?????????

It is easy to say we are getting better when you can run a trillion dollar deficit each year.

Give me an extra $50K each year for my family and I am sure that I would say things are "getting better".

However, after 20 years I would still owe $1,000,000 plus interest.

"Great experiment"???

My donkey!!!!!

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BTW, attack the issue, not me personally......you should know better as an educator to quantify me as "you and your ilk"...

[abuck76]

You and your ilk is not a personal attack but reality........You put your ideas, beliefs and philosophies out there, be ready and willing to be confronted about those items.........And when referring to the Great Expeiment I was referring to Alexis de Tocqueville’s book Democracy in America........ :12224

[Kentucky Trojan]

You and your ilk is not a personal attack but reality........You put your ideas, beliefs and philosophies out there, be ready and willing to be confronted about those items.........And when referring to the Great Expeiment I was referring to Alexis de Tocqueville’s book Democracy in America........ :12224

One more personal attack on me and I will have you reported.

I am aware of the book from 1830. However, we are destroying ourselves from within when we should be standing tall against the world.

[toast]

"You and your ilk" is not a personal attack.....not even close.

[abuck76]

You need to learn what a personal attack is........ And you will report me?...For what? ...You are so funny...OMG, that is a personal attack!!!....... .........

we are destroying ourselves from within

So you agree with Karl Marx also......That is very liberal of you Mr. Condom......... ......Love you man..... ............And on topic, same sex marriage is coming and will be yet another in a long list of accomplishments from the progressive side of the aisle......... :12224

[Kentucky Trojan]

"You and your ilk" is not a personal attack.....not even close.

It is in a long line of personal attacks from abuck that will not occur any longer.