Minford at South Webster

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I understand what you are saying but there are probably reasons why these boys aren't playing. Like I said before, I would say ALOT of the reasons are what goes on at practice (like putting out effort) and attitude. I didn't say that Justice chose to play JV - don't think he had a choice. As for Wiseman, he didn't have to just sit, he could have played JV too.


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Falconfever wrote:You have arguably the best and biggest post player in scioto county! Use him myself personally I think he should touch the ball in the post atleast 30 times a game. Regarding the bench players why only go 6 or 7 deep you have wiseman and justice on the bench wasting away? Justice is the second best ball handler on the team why not let him take point sometimes an use mcbee in the 2 slot soo he can get open shots? He is also one of the best defenders and bleeding red shoemaker always sits in the zone in big games I think you run one denfense and run it right like man let your athletes loose it's like holding a race horse in the gates. Shoemaker had this kind of talent at ports Look where it got them.

great post. i agree 1000 %.

they should get the ball to mccray on every possession if they can. Mcbee is the best player, but the offense should go through both him and mccray.


justice should be getting in to help handle the ball with stapleton and mcbee. the kid is hard nosed, will play solid defense and can handle the ball.


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The Falcons missed alot of shots last night, but they could'nt hang with Webster's speed in the man to man. Any Falcon that watched the Valley and ND game should have seen how tired the boys were and how well the 9-10 other players in each game they played were not . Sorry can not do better than 500 playing 7. Minford has A lot of talent that sits the pine on var. and jv.


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Badboy wrote:
KingoftheCourts wrote:
jazzhands88 wrote:ladies and gents lets take it easy on Kong of the Clotts. prolly a high school kid judging by his/her posts. he/she is just trying to stir up trouble and get the thread off topic. this isn't twitter, grow up count chocula.
Sorry Jazzhands - no kid here but I wish I could be! Aww to be young again.....but then you would probably be posting about how I played last night! Anyway, we are here to inspire these kids not tear them down! As for the kids "wasting on the bench" Justice plays fulltime JV and he does a great job and Wiseman made the choice to sit Varsity - he could be playing JV too be chose not to. I do hear these things seeing how I have family playing on the team. Why can't we all just get along and get behind these boys and show them our support! Go Falcons! :122245
its pretty easy to see that you and falcon fury are the same person. grammar is the same, 3 days between the 2 different registration times, both have kids on the team, etc etc etc

we cant get along because you (both of you) rip fans that question not the kids, but the style of play and coaching. big difference, not that you would know any better.


i also agree that there is talent wasting away on the bench. justice will play hard on defense and can handle the ball. both things this team needs.
Don't think so bad, I know for a fact I didn't join in Sept. Just a parent that supports our team. Good to know KingoftheCourt (and a few others) and I are on the same page. I don't always agree on everything offensively/defensively, but Coach Shoemaker is the coach and that's just the way it is. Like it or not, support the team regardless! The boys read this and they need encouragement. We as parents should teach our kids to RESPECT their coach. Minford has a group of great kids, they don't need your negativity. Move on!


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Maybe minford needs what Webster has plenty of... HUSTLE AND FLOW


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D4hero wrote:I just rly figured an all star team of Burg/Portsmouth/Eastern kids would do better thats all... but Minford proved me wrong there. Maybe that is the problem? Are any minford kids upset bout sitting the bench over kids they just recently started going to school with? Not always bout horses you have, coach still has to COACH, and I'm afraid Schumacker isn't the guy for the job, Copley is! Just don't get why Copley isn't coach of this team



Stapleton and McBee were both ORIGINAL minford kids, McBee til 7th, and Stapleton til 8th, so it is not a burg, portsmouth, eastern all star team. Stapleton was gone 2 years, and McBee 4. Both came home, did NOT transfer to a new school.


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Swank I agree with we do more hustle and flow so to speak and all I'm saying use what you have on the bench look at the athletes he has and he also puts freshman in the game before two seniors? What's with that


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Falconfever wrote:Swank I agree with we do more hustle and flow so to speak and all I'm saying use what you have on the bench look at the athletes he has and he also puts freshman in the game before two seniors? What's with that
I am pretty sure these two seniors played JV ball last year as Juniors. IMO Minford has freshman that are better and deserve minutes. I am not here to down players because these players are good kids (all friends of my son's). Last time I checked, this isn't peewee basketball where everyone plays. Being a senior doesn't give a player the "entitlement" to play. BTW, if I have been watching the same games as you, the bench (including the seniors) played against Raceland & Clay.


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fury-

yeah you did just join in september. its listed on every post you make. you joined on september 12th, 2012 at 10:44pm

i am not calling for the coach's head like some people, but this team will underachieve unless they change some things up. its nothing to do with the kids, its all about the schemes they are running.

there are not many looking at the situation the same as you and your counterpart. but since your kid is on the team i see where it benefits you to agree with what is going on.


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Falconfever wrote:You have arguably the best and biggest post player in scioto county! Use him myself personally I think he should touch the ball in the post atleast 30 times a game. Regarding the bench players why only go 6 or 7 deep you have wiseman and justice on the bench wasting away? Justice is the second best ball handler on the team why not let him take point sometimes an use mcbee in the 2 slot soo he can get open shots? He is also one of the best defenders and bleeding red shoemaker always sits in the zone in big games I think you run one denfense and run it right like man let your athletes loose it's like holding a race horse in the gates. Shoemaker had this kind of talent at ports Look where it got them.
Agree also.


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knowledge wrote:
D4hero wrote:I just rly figured an all star team of Burg/Portsmouth/Eastern kids would do better thats all... but Minford proved me wrong there. Maybe that is the problem? Are any minford kids upset bout sitting the bench over kids they just recently started going to school with? Not always bout horses you have, coach still has to COACH, and I'm afraid Schumacker isn't the guy for the job, Copley is! Just don't get why Copley isn't coach of this team



Copley gave up the coaching job to spend more time with his family? He was the head coach for a little bit and then decided to step down and spend more time with his family..........I believe that is the way it went down. Not sure if he was the varsity assistant the very next year or not...someone can correct me if this is not true. So Copley is the answer to these early problems?


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Badboy wrote:fury-

yeah you did just join in september. its listed on every post you make. you joined on september 12th, 2012 at 10:44pm

i am not calling for the coach's head like some people, but this team will underachieve unless they change some things up. its nothing to do with the kids, its all about the schemes they are running.

there are not many looking at the situation the same as you and your counterpart. but since your kid is on the team i see where it benefits you to agree with what is going on.
I think I would know when I joined, NOT September as it states when I post. I can assure you 100% it wasn't in September, so unless you're me, you have NO IDEA!

Because my kid is on the team, I will support whatever decisions are made. I've taught my child to respect the decisions of his coaches by respecting the coaches myself. Maybe I do not agree with everything, but I will never call for the coach's head, like some people. It's VERY DISRESPECTFUL! Every coach makes decisions differently and does things differently.

Some things do need to change and hopefully the coaching staff will work out the wrinkles soon. It's a 22 game season and the season's still young. I'm looking forward to see what the Falcons have in store! GO FALCONS!


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HaaHaa. Wow, I don't remember Minford fans of the past being such sore losers. I guess Bob Dylan was right: "Times they are a changin."


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im not speaking about Rowe in regards to the freshman comment becasue he is a very good player. im speaking about him bringing a freshmanin who plays jv too befroe 2 seniors who have been there for 4 years and i know for fact they work hard in practice and they deserve minutes before the freshman.


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The bottom line is this:

We all want to see this team do well. They are loaded with talent. For the most part we all agree that they would be better defensively if they used more talent off the bench. Heck they could press all night and keep rotating kids in to keep them from wearing down. Offensively, the ball should go through McCray and McBee on nearly every possession. Make the defense double up on them and find open shooters. But get the ball in their hands and they will get their points and break down the defense and give other kids open shots when they dont get to the rim.

I think we all agree that the best players should be on the court, but we have depth on the bench that can be used more than what it is now. I am not saying that there are kids that deserve to start that are not starting. But I know they could get more kids in the mix and by doing so would help the team. I dont care if the kids are freshman or seniors, use the talent that you have the right way and the team will do well.

This site is for all fans. Fans will give their opinions. If people's opinions bother you, dont get on this site. Nobody is being disrespectful by stating their opinion. People are not saying to fire the coaching staff tomorrow. I said earlier that I know Shoemaker and he is a great guy. He is a Minford guy. Of course we want to see him do well and the team to win. Of course we know that the kids bust their butts and are doing their best. I havent heard one negative comment about a kid on this entire thread and I dont expect to either.....so dont treat it as such.


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I agree with you breeding red


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I think we can all agree that Bleeding Red needs to spend more time in a tree stand or on the golf course, and less time posting on this site.


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Everyone always has it all figured out in the stands.


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Falconfever wrote:im not speaking about Rowe in regards to the freshman comment becasue he is a very good player. im speaking about him bringing a freshmanin who plays jv too befroe 2 seniors who have been there for 4 years and i know for fact they work hard in practice and they deserve minutes before the freshman.
Being a 4 year senior who practices hard does not mean you should get more time in varsity games. You can be a 4 year player who just isn't that good. The coaches should make the decision who the best 5 are and that is who should start. I do agree that if a freshman is playing JV and then playing varsity too, that is getting to be a little much if they are playing in front of upper classmen. If I remember a year or two ago, there were people on here getting all over Shoe because the seniors were playing too much when there were better younger kids on the bench, now the Shoe is on the other foot and the older kids should be getting more time, but the younger kids are playing more.


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tigerSTRIPEZzz wrote:I think we can all agree that Bleeding Red needs to spend more time in a tree stand or on the golf course, and less time posting on this site.
Nah. Bowhunting is shot after the orange army ruins the woods and its too cold to play golf. I think I will stay.


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