26 dead at Conn. School shooting

[kantuckyII]

I own several guns, if they're not on my person, they're in my safe. The finger of blame has to start pointing to the mom who these weapons belonged to. She had to have known how disturbed her son was and yet he was able to get all three

They're NOT taking the guns as some are already clamoring for. As a matter if a fact, I'd bet my bottom dollar gun sales are going to explode the next few weeks. Heck, I've had my eye on a 1911 that if I had the cash, I'd get it tomorrow cause there's going to be a run

[Tigercannon71]

Guns didnt cause this tragedy. They were a tool used by some an evil person. Lets face it without a gun he could have ran a school bus off the road with his car in order to kill those kids. The problem stems from why he turned out to be a monster. What caused him to snap and decided to go on a rampage, but since he took the coward way out we will never know and we can only guess why he did what he did.
Maybe Tucks partly right the fingers to blame on his mom not because she owned guns, but maybe she didnt whip his butt enough when he was younger. Maybe he was a spoiled brat and the one time his parents said no to him he went on a murdering spree. I dont know. What I do know is children are dead and this was a very tragic day in America.

[blackshooky]

guns did cause this tragedy and until there is more gun control laws this fricking bs will keep happening

[Kentucky Trojan]

guns did cause this tragedy and until there is more gun control laws this fricking bullshit will keep happening

My family and I are deeply saddened by the tragic events that have occurred over the last 24 hours.

I was not aware of the Bath County, Michigan tragedy from 1927 until I did some research earlier this evening. KantuckyII brought it up previously and I wanted to share some thoughts.

The bombs and fire that caused the explosions in 1927 that killed 58 at an elementary school were the mechanism for a madman who had earlier killed his wife and mother. He caused this tragedy, not the bombs or the fire.

Similarly, this manman in Connecticut caused the tragedy after killing his mother as well.

It continues to occur because of our selfish, individualistic environment and the breakdown of the family unit...not because of a lack of gun control laws.

[kantuckyII]

I could not imagine living out in the county where first responders are a good 45 minutes or far more away and laying my head down at night and going to sleep without being armed. I wonder how many people have considered breaking into someone's home but the fear of an armed home owner made them change their mind?

A couple years ago I was coming out a dark country road by myself around 3 in the morning and up ahead a man was jumping up and down trying to get me to stop. It's easy to sit in your house and say you'd do it without thinking but when you think you might be getting set up, you're alone and in the middle if the night, it's a whole different story. I CAN NOT begin to tell you how good it felt to slide my pistol onto my lap, clutching it as I rolled down my window to ask what was wrong

[Tigercannon71]

guns did cause this tragedy and until there is more gun control laws this fricking bullshit will keep happening

Really? So did the gun tell him to go shoot all those kids? Is that how it works? Enlighten us on how guns caused this to happen.

[F-4 Phantom]

Your outrage is touching!! You are so blinded by your allegiance you can't see the truth! You want to blame guns for a culture/generation LIBS created!

I can think of many young people who have had teen pregnancies, been in jail, used drugs, etc. etc. who have deeply religious, far-right parents.

I can think of many young people who grew up, graduated college, started families of their own, etc. etc. who had liberal parents.

Stop trying to blame the left for what is going on. If the left had their way, the guns used in these killings wouldn't be available to the general public in the first place. Automatic assault rifles are necessary in our society? Really? I think not.

LIBS have desensitized DEATH and glamorized KILLINGS through their senseless marketing of movies, videos, music, etc...Many can blame a GUN for the environment in which we live but if you don't address the root cause, the sheeple will forever be pissing in the wind! You can remove all the guns in the world and it won't stop a darn thing. Idiots hell bent on MURDER will find another means to carry out their aggression. LIBS need to use their brains instead of blaming others for problems they have caused! PREDICTABLE!!!

[F-4 Phantom]

It would be irresponsible not to take into account the mechanism that was used to commit this horrific act. The easy access to guns is part of the problem. If we had some common sense gun control laws some of these horrible killings would not be taking place.

Really??? What are the other parts?

[Kentucky Trojan]

[toast]

Why don't we do background checks on ALL gun sales? That would help.

Why do we allow the sale of assault weapons that are meant for war?

Why do we allow the sale of high capacity drums, clips and magazines? Banning these alone would have saved countless lives.

It's past time to take action on sensible gun control laws!

[Eagle82]

It is past time to take action on hollywood and their blood lust movies.

It is past time to take action on the video game industry.

[Kentucky Trojan]

Why don't we do background checks on ALL gun sales? That would help.

The guns were registered to the deceased mother.

The mother and father are divorced.

The dad is a VP with GE Capital and had been a partner at Ernst and Young. The brother, Ryan, is a tax accountant at Ernst and Young.

Background check?

Right.

[toast]

^^^

You don't get it do you?

Background checks are just one piece of the puzzle that would help prevent killings like this one. (Not this one!)

If background checks were mandatory "some crazies" would not be getting guns and committing these horrible killings. Making people jump through hoops will prevent some nuts from getting the guns and murdering innocent people. It would help, it's obviously not going to stop all the killings. Nothing can prevent them all, but we can take steps to help.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

Guns didnt cause this tragedy. They were a tool used by some an evil person. Lets face it without a gun he could have ran a school bus off the road with his car in order to kill those kids. The problem stems from why he turned out to be a monster. What caused him to snap and decided to go on a rampage, but since he took the coward way out we will never know and we can only guess why he did what he did.
Maybe Tucks partly right the fingers to blame on his mom not because she owned guns, but maybe she didnt whip his butt enough when he was younger. Maybe he was a spoiled brat and the one time his parents said no to him he went on a murdering spree. I dont know. What I do know is children are dead and this was a very tragic day in America.

CANNON, THIS IS VERY TRUE.
in our days you got the belt, the switch, there were not timeouts-------there were however knockouts.
i got wall to wall therapy from the bedroom wall to the living room wall, etc.
when punished i worked off my wrong doing in every way my parents could imagine.
if i got paddled at school, then i got it at home too.
we started each day with the pledge of allegiance and prayers.
that has been taken from these children, no god in school, broken homes. parents that don't care.
this all has to start at home, and morals instilled in our kids straight from the womb.
and you pay dearly for transgressions. my dad used to take me in the jail , when he was a deputy.
just to show me what is was like if i went there.
and we played hard all day long,
not like the nfl play60 thingie.
if we don't get god back, in our schools, and government, and our 10 commandments back on the walls
perhaps we need to arm each administrator in our schools and select teachers.
who are deemed stable, and have gone through CCW classes.
WHATEVER IT TAKES, WE NEED TO BY GOD, TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK FROM THE THUGS.AND THAT INCLUDES ELECTED OFFICIALS, THAT ARE SPINELESS.
people may or may not agree with this post in it's entirety, or even any of it.
but these are my thoughts, and being american i can express them.

AND FINALLY MY HEART IS SO HEAVY OVER THIS, I'M JUST CRUSHED.
we fostered children from broken homes, children that had been abused, neglected, beaten, abandoned.
90 perecent of the time, it had nothing to do with the kids
it was the parents.and at the end of the month, when the agencies run short of money. they send the kids right back into the line of fire.with nothing generally based, to see the parent is more fit than before.
i'm a parent, grandparent.i coached youth sports for years. i absolutely, positively love and adore children. and i am replused beyond words. but the fact of the matter is. we need metal detectors in every school. and each school should have say 4/6 people on staff that are packing. and complete lockdowns during school hours.if a parent or adult enters, the must go through a procedure similiar to entering a courthouse, metal detector, pockets emptied.sure it will take more time, more money.

I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, AND TRUST ME, I'LL OFFEND SOMEBODY, SO BEIT.
YOU START HANGING THESE GOONS ON NATIONAL TELEVISION, SEE HOW CRIME GOES DOWN. AND BRING BACK CHAIN GANGS. GET BACK TO SOME OLE WEST JUSTICE, AND SEE HOW THIS CRAP STOPS.
WHATEVER IT TAKES SHOULD BE THE PRESIDENTS NEW CATCHPRASE, YOURS IN CHRIST YTB.

[dazed&confused]

The Nation at large refuses to have a considerate DISCUSSION of gun violence. And make no mistake, no matter how you feel about guns, they are centric to a lot of needless death in this country. This issue is close to me because I have lost an immediate family member to a gun murder. Just avoiding or stonewalling discussion is disheartening to me. When the Nation refuses to calmly discuss the violence without putting up defensive barriers or responds instantly by pointing fingers, it cannot be rationally discussed on this forum. In the meantime, the clock is ticking until the next event, which will come sooner than later. Pray, if that is your choice to do, that it does not come calling on your family. I am remembering the victims and their families today but I am truly sad for us all.

[Kentucky Trojan]

^^^

You don't get it do you?

Background checks are just one piece of the puzzle that would help prevent killings like this one. (Not this one!)

If background checks were mandatory "some crazies" would not be getting guns and committing these horrible killings. Making people jump through hoops will prevent some nuts from getting the guns and murdering innocent people. It would help, it's obviously not going to stop all the killings. Nothing can prevent them all, but we can take steps to help.

"some crazies"...but, not Adam Lanza.....

If abortion was made illegal again, then would this stop women from having them? The answer is clearly no!

The same is true for guns. If assault rifles were made illegal, then would this stop these types of tragedies in the future? The answer is clearly no!

Now, who doesn't get it?

[dazed&confused]

Lynard Skynard-

Hand guns are made for killin'
Ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me

[Kentucky Trojan]

Lynard Skynard-

Hand guns are made for killin'
Ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me

See my post above...

[dazed&confused]

Lynard Skynard-

Hand guns are made for killin'
Ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me

See my post above...

KT, when you have addressed fmaily and loved ones at the funeral of a young, vibrant soul taken to soon to senseless gun violence, get back to me.

[Kentucky Trojan]

Lynard Skynard-

Hand guns are made for killin'
Ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me

See my post above...

KT, when you have addressed fmaily and loved ones at the funeral of a young, vibrant soul taken to soon to senseless gun violence, get back to me.

...so that is the only criteria for believing what is best for our country?

I do not think so.