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I wish it was a super sectional. I think it would make the tourney road a lot easyer for the deserving upper seeds look at what Easterns probable pathos going to be as a reward for be the top seed at Meigs and maybe the top D-4 in the area it's going to be a ruff ride.


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Better yet let the teams down here do as the city schools do up north and let them pick there sectional where they want to play. How is it fair they can duck teams but down here we are not afforded the same treatment ?


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Yea eastern district Seeds 1-11 then the only rules are 1 is one side and 2 on the other then 3 on gets to pick there spot. 3 spot is actually best place to be.


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Remember southeastern Ohio is extremely spread out ... teams from the Valley sectional don't play any of the teams in the Meigs sectional during the regular season ... I mean, how does the coach from Miller or Trimble suppose to vote for teams like Manchester, Portsmouth Clay, Western Pike, etc ... etc ... they my as well be in a completely different state ... the teams know nothing about each other ... it would make voting in a super sectional very difficult.


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You could still keep sectionals the same and let teams place themselves on the board I mean if 3 seed thinks they can beat 1 and then make the teams tourney Trail easier let them.


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Symmes plays some TVC schools Eastern played Wellston but they are D-3. But it would be a lot easyer that way Eastern drives a hour and a half to play there and Valley is 7 min. away from there school. It's crazy.


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93Bulldog wrote:Remember southeastern Ohio is extremely spread out ... teams from the Valley sectional don't play any of the teams in the Meigs sectional during the regular season ... I mean, how does the coach from Miller or Trimble suppose to vote for teams like Manchester, Portsmouth Clay, Western Pike, etc ... etc ... they my as well be in a completely different state ... the teams know nothing about each other ... it would make voting in a super sectional very difficult.

It is just not that hard. Every coach could submit the results of every game they played and a few notes where they were needed. You could have the district board or whoever choose 3 names from across each district and they could meet and seed....but not your own division. For example....Coach Evans (Circleville), Coach Eaton (Greenfield) and Coach Maddox (Warren)....meet in a location of their choice with all the result sheets from each D4 team and they sit in there until it's done. You could do a good fair job in under an hour.....and saying they don't know anything about those teams is just silly. Coaches know who is good and how good each league is....as long as they weren't from the same area it would work.3 D3 coaches could do D2 seeding and 3 D4 coaches could do D3.

Every coach is to go to Jackson that same Sunday afternoon anyways.....they could get the call sometime that Saturday that they were one of the coaches (to help prevent the other coaches knowing who was going to be seeding them)....plus only about 1/7 of the coaches would have to go.....next year, use different coaches (never more than 1 time every 3 years)


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Ironman92 wrote:Look....Miller has went from the bottom to the middle when looking at the entire D4 SE....so good for the coaching staff and great for the kids. I haven't any problem with them at all.

I just hate how the SE does their tournament as far as the sectionals and the seedings. I want fair for Miller, South Gallia, New Boston, Fairfield....everyone. We are the only district in the state that does it this way. D2 is typically close to fair but D3 and D4 are laughable. Every year mediocre teams of a few leagues get a better path to advance than good teams of other leagues. Both D4 sectionals and 2/3 of the D3 sectionals are not even close to fair.

Fair LMAO. These teams have to win one game to win a sectional championship. If a team can't win one game they have no business crying about anything. These are the sectionals the teams play in that is fair. Someone up north could say our sectional is loaded and SEO is weak. Looking at your logic we would have to rank every team in the state and play accordingly. I have seen the AP rankings and you see how accurate that is. The great thing about high school basketball is everyone gets a chance. What could be more fair than that. So if you are a 1 seed or a 9 seed it doesn't matter you all have the same chance. My favorite a few years ago on here had to be people arguing over who was the 4 and 5 seed. They played each other either way and still arguing over it. Meigs and Valley both have 4 teams coming out of each. How could someone worry about fair?


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John Wooden wrote:
Ironman92 wrote:Look....Miller has went from the bottom to the middle when looking at the entire D4 SE....so good for the coaching staff and great for the kids. I haven't any problem with them at all.

I just hate how the SE does their tournament as far as the sectionals and the seedings. I want fair for Miller, South Gallia, New Boston, Fairfield....everyone. We are the only district in the state that does it this way. D2 is typically close to fair but D3 and D4 are laughable. Every year mediocre teams of a few leagues get a better path to advance than good teams of other leagues. Both D4 sectionals and 2/3 of the D3 sectionals are not even close to fair.

Fair LMAO. These teams have to win one game to win a sectional championship. If a team can't win one game they have no business crying about anything. These are the sectionals the teams play in that is fair. Someone up north could say our sectional is loaded and SEO is weak. Looking at your logic we would have to rank every team in the state and play accordingly. I have seen the AP rankings and you see how accurate that is. The great thing about high school basketball is everyone gets a chance. What could be more fair than that. So if you are a 1 seed or a 9 seed it doesn't matter you all have the same chance. My favorite a few years ago on here had to be people arguing over who was the 4 and 5 seed. They played each other either way and still arguing over it. Meigs and Valley both have 4 teams coming out of each. How could someone worry about fair?
Fair....yes. Really nothing to laugh your ass off about . Way to throw more into it. Every other district in the state does it the same way, but we do it differently. And the 1 game is a big deal....when the #7 seed has an easier game than the #4 seed...it's stupid and happens too often.

Screw the sectionals....no one else in the state even recognizes them do they?

You'd rather the coaches with the greatest league affiliation set the seedings and consider it fair. Now I can laugh my ass off.


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If a team got screwed by the coaches and got the 7th seed they surely should be able to beat the 3 seed. I bet coaches think lets screw this or that team instead of worrying about who they are playing their-self. All coaches are trying to get a team that is going to give them the easiest game. Do you really think coaches with higher seeds are going to vote a tougher game for their self? Meigs gets 4 teams out of 9 and Valley 4 out of ten so if you can't be a top 4 team to come out of these sectionals you should be a 10,9,8,7 seed.If you can't make it out of your sectional you don't deserve to have anything to cry about.


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No crying....still not speaking the same though.

I'm saying the #7 seed has it better than the #4 or #5 seed....anyways I never said these weren't two of the easiest sectionals in the whole state....but I still shoot for the fairest way.

Let's wait and see how it goes this year. I'll stay off this thread as all but 3 teams probably like it better the way it is now.

I wish everyone good luck this year.


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Just an example, I believe it was in the 09-10 season, a undefeated raining state champ Oak Hill Oaks were the #1 seed in their sectional. They played a .500 Wheelersburg team in the sectional title game and got beat. So my take is everyone gets a fair shake because the rules are understood long before and every team knows what they are going into. You still have to show and play well, whether your a 1 seed or a 10 seed. It might not be the best way to do it but it's the way this District has done it for years.


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Reedsville eastern 31
Miller 15 at half....


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Eastern beat Miller by 25

Waterford beat Fed Hock

Southern easily beats Trimble


Great win for the Waterford kids who were deemed the definite last seed.

Eastern playing better.


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I give up ... just do the draw old school - and "draw" out of a hat ...

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With Reedsville Eastern coming alive the #2 seed is not looking as good as the #3 seed.


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I would like to repost my comment on Miller being a 3 seed after the win over Belpre
New post will read "Miller is a lock for the 3-9 seed"
Ok that makes more sense to me now.
and I agree with 93bd- just do a blind draw LOL


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93Bulldog wrote:I give up ... just do the draw old school - and "draw" out of a hat ...

:)

If we are going to do old school we got to go back to only one team coming out of a sectional. There was a lot less complaining back than and winning a sectional meant a little more.


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This is the only sectional where if it ends up: (3) Trimble vs (6) Miller ... or (3) Miller vs (6) Trimble ... I would not be surprised at all ... lol

That goes for all the teams 3-through-9 ... I mean, it just doesn't matter where you end up at all ...


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This sectional should be some fun games to watch with the majority of the teams haveing close to the same records.


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