Symmes Valley VS. Waterford 2/27/13

[art_vandelay]

Disappointing end for Symmes Valley. I remember watching them at Convo last year against Webster and thinking they'd be a team to look out for this year with their returning players. Never put it together this year for whatever reason.*

[Emil Blonsky]

Art you are correct last years team had 1 senior and he had torn acl if I remember correctly. So I would guess the true answer is that sv suffered from the the grass isnt always greener syndrome, since they changed coaches to appease parents and looks like it bit them in the behind. I believe last yrs team had very little varsity experience yet seemed to get better and beat waterford for sectional title last year. This team didnt seem to improve as the yr went on and this after they hired what the fans believed is the bobby knight of high school coaches and this would translate in automatic wins but it did not. They replaced a coach who had records of 13-7, 17-4 and 8-14(with only one injured senior and still won sectional) because he wouldn't cottle the complaining parents so I guess now you have made your bed so lie in it. Parents stay in the stands and root for the kids and stop trying to coach the coach because in the end its the kids who suffer. Now I know some people will be offended by this post but sometimes the truth hurts and before you start bashing this post take a step back and really read what has been said and you will see its pretty much right on the ball. Also sv school board you are as guilty as the parents and you should be ashamed you are supposed to do whats best for the school and kids and not just complaining parents.

[THE MANCHILD]

No one is going to please the folks at SV. Been that way since I can remember. The Vikings this year started out pretty good but by the end of the year we were playing the same old slow style of BB that we seen last year. When we run the ball we do better. Two years ago you only had to watch Taylor play ball to see what I'm talking about. When he was loose and running, we could play with anyone. When they slowed him down we were in trouble. I really thought we were going to get back to the fast break style of ball this year but it never happened.
When you tell a team that a certain player must touch the ball each time down the court before you can shoot and the other team is double teaming this player you sit yourself up for a whooping by a team that should not be within 15 points of you.
Aka, Green, Western, Rock HIll and almost New Boston, etc. These are teams we beat with no problem early this year. However when you tie the teams hands with these type of instructions the result is the "Whoopin" mentioned above. Win or lose I hope the boys had fun this year but in reality I dont think most of them did.

[Eaglesnest]

Agree. Dissapointing end for Symmes. No idea what the issues are. When I watched them against the Oaks early, I thought they had the potential to be the team to beat inthe SOC1. Second half of the year they lost to some bad teams? I heard Waterford was aweful this year and they win by 17? Hard to figure.

[gipper]

Art you are correct last years team had 1 senior and he had torn acl if I remember correctly. So I would guess the true answer is that sv suffered from the the grass isnt always greener syndrome, since they changed coaches to appease parents and looks like it bit them in the behind. I believe last yrs team had very little varsity experience yet seemed to get better and beat waterford for sectional title last year. This team didnt seem to improve as the yr went on and this after they hired what the fans believed is the bobby knight of high school coaches and this would translate in automatic wins but it did not. They replaced a coach who had records of 13-7, 17-4 and 8-14(with only one injured senior and still won sectional) because he wouldn't cottle the complaining parents so I guess now you have made your bed so lie in it. Parents stay in the stands and root for the kids and stop trying to coach the coach because in the end its the kids who suffer. Now I know some people will be offended by this post but sometimes the truth hurts and before you start bashing this post take a step back and really read what has been said and you will see its pretty much right on the ball. Also sv school board you are as guilty as the parents and you should be ashamed you are supposed to do whats best for the school and kids and not just complaining parents.

You know the biggist difference in last year and this year is that the boys actually enjoyed playing for Saunders and didn't have to deal with an arrogant coach. This years problem was that they did not play team ball. There was way too much finger pointing to play as a team. I'm sure Saunders will address this over the summer and have the team playing better together next year.

[Billybob55]

Waterford was not awful this season.. it just depended on which team showed up for which game. the team that beat fed hock or the team that lost to south galia

[Eaglesnest]

Waterford was not awful this season.. it just depended on which team showed up for which game. the team that beat fed hock or the team that lost to south galia

Meant no disrepect. Never seen them play. I was just relaying what I heard. Either way they had a bad record and was a lower seed.

[Futurebkstar]

Wow, really. you going to base all that stuff on this game. If the kids would came to play the other night you wouldnt be talking like this. You have to give them a chance to put a system in. The games I watched this season I seen things I havent seen before. I also seen the previous coach sit at a few games and dog his previous team. Talking negative brings negative stuff to any program. I also remember that 17-3 record league champion coach you are referring to go down to the in the first game of the sectional to the same coach you are talking about now. What I seen this year was a community back their program better than ever, kids acting a lot better to parents and teachers, and coaches concerned about progress on the court and in the classroom. The JV Coach Brace ran the same system and those kids bought into it. I was at a jv game and he benched everyone for lack of watever reason. The others responded and off they went. That team won a school record in games and its Coach Saunders system. From what I seen of Saunders he brings a whole lot more to the game. He will continue to mold these kids into men. Their was a consequence of negative actions to each and every kid that applied. That has NEVER happened at SV and the players couldnt handle it. I thinks Coach Saunders and Coach Brace is exactly what SV needs.

Wow, what did you say to Coach F when his team was SOC champs and lost to these coaches?

[Eaglesnest]

my bad.

[Futurebkstar]

I was actually referring to Emil Blonsky post

[gipper]

Well put sv13

[s.v.vikinglinex2]

I wish that parents were as concerned with their kids Education as they are Basketball or Football. Coach Saunders and Coach Brace are the Symmes Valley Coaches why do we not support them? When a player hears at Home how much better We would be playing if We had a different Coach it would be hard to buy into the System as a Kid. I have lost a lot of what I thought were Friends because of the Coach We hired. You are correct Gipper Coach Saunders will fix this over the summer.

[Emil Blonsky]

gipper and sv 2013 its good you defend your schools decision but I will stick with what I said and I guess time will tell who was right or wrong and if its proven in time I was wrong then I will post on here that I judged too quickly but if I am right will you have the guts to do the same. I guess we will see I look forward to the future and what happens
ps trust me there were kids on the team not as happy with the coach as some would have you believe but thats part of coaching you are not there to be liked by everybody you are there to teach
did you personally hear the former coach badmouthing the team at games or are you just assuming or believing what somebody else told you?
and sv vikingline did you say the same thing last year when they wanted the coach gone about how hard it is on the kids to buy into a system or are you making excuses just curious because I will agree with you in as far as its hard on the kids when parents and outsiders are downing the coach but lets be fair I am sure the same thing went on last year.

[s.v.vikinglinex2]

Yes I have always said that it would be hard for a Kid to buy into any System with nothing but negative talk at Home. When My oldest Son played Basketball one Year He played very little because I did not rehire the Coach for another position but my wife and I did not discuss it around Him ( he was not one of the best on the team but should have got in some)

[Futurebkstar]

I'm just glad we have to go to the care more about the kids then just basketball. teachers say that the attitudes are better and the kids are workingrder. when you keep thatmany kids you will obviously have some people unhappy. What I see in both coaches that they are demanding. They expect great things and hard work. If kids want to do what parents say they will be mediocre. If they would let the coaches do the job and be positive good things will happen. If people are pointing fingers at home then how do kids supposed to let things go on the floor. Attitude reflects parents. Then attitude reflects leadership so let them do their job.

[Futurebkstar]

What did you think of the jv team? Well, I know its exactly what both coaches do. The only difference is no parents finger pointing, kids get along, and the coach coaches. The varsity level the kids dont get along because of previous problems, parents and kids do care who scores, and the coach is too busy fixing those problems. That what I see that is going on. There is no difference in the jv coach and varsity coach. The differences is the problems that existed before they got there. They will get them worked out. Coach Saunders will get them together.

[s.v.vikinglinex2]

Agree 100 percent

[gipper]

I agree as well... It was a pretty good year with no one trashing the coaches on seops until this last ballgame when Emil started. This stuff... I know all these boys very well and all of them said they loved playing for Saunders. So are you saying Emil that winning and not having fun is more important?...I'm not saying Saunders won't win... Because I know they will his résumé proves he is a winning coach

[91blue14]

interesting discussion

[Charge]

How could it be a pretty good year when you lost the majority of your games coming down the home stretch ? Than your a 2 seed and lose to a 7 seed that hasn't won five games all year. I would hate to see a bad year. Lol