Week Two: Logan AT Teays Valley

[TRENCHFOOT]

The radio guys always say that lol! I never said that wasn't a problem trench,but sometimes theres more to it then just plain ole tackling, like getting off blocks or taking bad angles ect. it takes a lot of players getting there with an attitude in case a player or two miss which will happen with any team,a lot of times I have not saw enough Logan defenders swarming to the ball.Not trying to argue with you but just stating what I have seen, beleive what ya want

I'm not arguing either. The defense needs a lot of work, they are not making the stops at times when they really need to. I hope they get it worked out.

[loganlocos]

I watch other teams on defense and their D backs don't play as close to the line as Logan.........This is all the way down to the 7th grade..........If it is lack of speed -set them back a little more...sometimes it looks like Logan will not see who has the ball until the runner is upon them or past them. Seems like Logan has played this way for sometime. It worked years ago but not of lately.

I don't think Logan's DBs lack speed. A couple of times they had trouble getting off blocks, but overall the DBs have been one of the brightspots. Those guys are making some plays, IMO.

[loganlocos]

thanks C-bolt.....why does Logan have a snall tean......why go thru all the 2 adays and pratice when they know only a handful is getting to play.....this crap statrs with the younger teans to.......seen it for years... fron tonahawks on up.....bet you could find 11 kids in hallways that would play but when you have 8-9 players playing both ways.......don't blane for not bothering......would you?....if you know only going to do all year is wear the jersey.....

I agree playing 2-ways at the lower levels (especially Tomahawks) is not a way to build a program.

But having watched several classes come through, I don't remember a lot of kids going both ways in the 7th-8th grade especially.

Once you get to the Varsity level, your best 11 need to play, period. Hopefully you can keep your QB and maybe a running back from playing two-ways.

Hopefully you have 18 really good football players that make it even to keep them from going both ways.



But Logan usually gets their lunch handed to them in JV games - so something is not added up if there are kids who are good enough to play but aren't getting time. They seem to be getting beat at the JV level too.

[loganlocos]

Ya know, I don't want to sound like a rear end, but I can't get over the fact this is the second straight year Logan has lost to Teays and last year was supposedly a renassiance year for the Chieftains. Teays is not even a top half team in the MSL-Buckeye yet one of the biggest reasons cited for Logan not joining the MSL-Buckeye would be because they'd be too good and have too much of an advantage in football (let alone baseball and basketball). I want to see Logan join the MSL, so that's why I say this... not to humiliate Logan fans but the fact is Logan is a hand-in-glove fit for the MSL.

Certainly been humbling for Logan - but although the last two year have been a bit of a renaissance, Logan is NO WHERE near their best like the 1998-2009.

Remember, when Logan was at their best they put it all over MSL Champ Canal Winchester when Mauro was coaching there the first time.


I don't remember very many Logan fans say Logan was too good for the MSL. Maybe Paladin, but you have to remember he is in Ytown, Ohio. He has not seen the cultural and demographic shifts in Pickaway and Fairfield Counties.

Pickerington was once an MSL school. The other MSL members are looking more and more like Pickerington and less and less like Athens, Vinton, and Jackson counties in terms of demographics/population shifts.

I've always said Logan would be a good fit. In Basketball and Baseball I don't know that Logan could win more than a handful of games a year in the MSL to be honest.

[loganlocos]

Well, when ya got radio announcers saying they are arm tackling and need to wrap up, and 5 other people saying the tackling and over pursuing is horrible, that was "at the game" as well, It's very obvious the tackling needs worked on. But not saying that's the whole problem. Burke will fix it. He's not a happy camper either.

Yeah, tackling isn't great, but a lot of times its because guys are in position. It looks like arm tackles because they are reaching from a bad angle or from being blocked.

Guys need to get off blocks and move to the football and make a hit.

A lot of times on Friday too they got fooled pretty bad on misdirections.

[chiefs]

Sure, I didn't mean to paint Logan fans as pompous or anything of the like but I recall there was some mention that size / numbers would make them too competitively advantageous. I'm not sure if that was the general Logan rationale or if it was Jim Hayes (MSL commish)'s reasoning.

I'd love to see Logan in the MSL, lots of rivalries to be built.

[bman]

MSL missed a good opportunity to bring in a new school with outstanding facilities and good fan support. Logan would've fit very well in the Buckeye. I imagine some of the smaller schools needed to form an eight-team division with TV, Hamilton Twp. and Logan probably bulked. If you are a D4-5 school and face playing three D2s, there may be a worry about generating enough points to make the playoffs.

[loganlocos]

I don't want to see Logan leave the SEOAL.

BUT, the MSL seems like the best fit if the invitation ever comes. Logan would cut their travel in half and play competitive schools. Would be a good fit. Water under the bridge. Hopefully we can add more MSL schools to the schedules in the future.

[Paladin]

Locos

You didn't see me bad mouth the MSL as a spot for Logan. Pickerington ? Paladin was a candidate for and interviewed for that job before Jack Johnson got it. Everyone saw the explosive population growth that was going to be coming there. Canal Winchester ? My good friend Mike Locke was the HC there and said growth was coming. Had former neighbors here who moved to Canal and we were down to visit them several years ago. Was down to Logan for playoff games with Canal and Jerome. I'm well aware of the growth in schools of Pickaway and Fairfield Co. The demographic shift of Central Ohio is something I witnessed as the company I worked for had state wide headquarters in Columbus , so I was down often over the years. But the reality is there are some weak schools in the MSL, just like there WERE weak schools in the SEOAL, most of whom fled because they got whipped up on. SEO is full of former SEOAL school members. I agree Logan would fit into the MSL.

[loganlocos]

Locos

You didn't see me bad mouth the MSL as a spot for Logan. Pickerington ? Paladin was a candidate for and interviewed for that job before Jack Johnson got it. Everyone saw the explosive population growth that was going to be coming there. Canal Winchester ? My good friend Mike Locke was the HC there and said growth was coming. Had former neighbors here who moved to Canal and we were down to visit them several years ago. Was down to Logan for playoff games with Canal and Jerome. I'm well aware of the growth in schools of Pickaway and Fairfield Co. The demographic shift of Central Ohio is something I witnessed as the company I worked for had state wide headquarters in Columbus , so I was down often over the years. But the reality is there are some weak schools in the MSL, just like there WERE weak schools in the SEOAL, most of whom fled because they got whipped up on. SEO is full of former SEOAL school members. I agree Logan would fit into the MSL.

Perhaps I should have phrased my comment better, Paladin.

I actually did not remember anyone from Logan bad mouthing the MSL, and you have confirmed that.

I made an assumption (always dangerous, and usually regrettable) that perhaps The FC Fan was referring to you. Thanks for clarifying.

[Paladin]

May be, Locos. I said that Logan should win those types of games ( playing without 16 injured players including the starting QB last year and the D meltdown this year holding a 40-30 lead late in the game) . Certainly TV isn't outside the ability of Logan to play with as I view Lancaster. The MSL would be competitive for Logan, but I'd expect Logan to win their share of titles just as they have with the SEOAL. But of course, the MSL hasn't extended an invitation.

Just because Paladin lives in the Youngstown Metro area doesn't mean I don't have ( or didn't have) extensive contacts and a solid history of the area while coaching down there. Indeed, Paladin knows the area well.

Logan has a history of playing MSL teams like Bexley, Hamilton Twp., Bloom Carroll, Circleville, etc in sports. Now TV too. While I think Logan would be successful over the long haul in the MSL, one game or two, here or there, shouldn't make anyone think Logan couldn't compete. That would be foolish.