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Another year of great football is ahead of us. Who is are key returners for teams that can impact the season for each school? Who lost the most? And can Valley repeat?
In my opinion I think Oak Hill has a great shot at returning as SOC champs. East can mix things up at the 3 spot (could go to the 2 spot or 4 spot). Notre Dame loses a lot of talent but returns a veteran line (Minus Ogg). Northwest (who do they have coming back and who did they lose? Can they compete in the SOC 1?) Green (New Coach, but do they have any talent?)

Burg and Valley in my opinion will be fighting for the top spot once again. Could go either way in my opinion. Valley has Brian Rolfe returning as the best QB out of both leagues in my opinion. Who else returns and who will they miss?)

SOC 1
Oak Hill
Symmes Valley
East
Notre Dame
Northwest
Green

SOC 2
Wheelersburg
Valley
Minford
West
Waverly


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SOC I:

ND
Oak HIll
East
NW
SV
Green

SOC II
Burg/Minford
Valley
West
Waverly

It will be an interesting season for both leagues. I expect for the SOC II to be a dog fight to the final week as usual as no one team is that far above the rest.


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SOC I:
Oak HIll
SV
ND
East
Green
NW

SOC II
Minford
Burg
West
Valley
Waverly

In the SOC I, I see Oak Hill taking the title, with Symmes Valley coming in second.
In the SOC II, I'll take my Falcons capturing the title, but they will be tested. Wheelersburg simply reloads each year in grabbing second place.


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Burg will be very good. No one knows this yet but Burgs QB will turn heads. I think they will go back to region and perhaps grab SOC on their way.


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SOC 2
1.Burg
2.Minford
3.Waverly
4.West
5.Valley

SOC 1
1. Oak Hill
2. East
3. Green
4. Symmes Valley
5. Northwest


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Not to be condescending, but why does everyone think Minford will win the league this year? Didn't they lose a huge senior class? Burg has a lot coming back, Valley probably has the best player in the league.


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black76 wrote:SOC 2
1.Burg
2.Minford
3.Waverly
4.West
5.Valley

SOC 1
1. Oak Hill
2. East
3. Green
4. Symmes Valley
5. Northwest

So did ND just not make the list for you lol


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My bad I did forget them. No disrespect intended.
1.Oaks
2. East
3.ND
4. Green
5. S.V.
6. NW
I am guessing after Oaks and East/don't know much about what any of them have.


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Just giving you a hard time, no worries.

So what separates teams from each other? It's easy to pick a team to finish 1-2-3 etc, burg has a new QB coming up, but can he handle the snaps at Varsity level. Brian Rolfe is a key threat for Valley, who does he have around him to help try and lead a 4th SOC in a row?

Sleepers in Minford, West, Minford and Waverly? Overrated or underrated?

Can the Oaks make a clean sweep in an SOC looking to rebuild?


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SOC 1
Oak Hill
Symmes Valley
East or Green
Notre Dame
Northwest


SOC 2
Wheelersburg
Valley or West
Minford
Waverly


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SOC2 wise.....most wide open year I can remember...3 teams have a great shot, 1 team has a good shot, then theres Waverly.


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JS7_22 wrote:Just giving you a hard time, no worries.

So what separates teams from each other? It's easy to pick a team to finish 1-2-3 etc, burg has a new QB coming up, but can he handle the snaps at Varsity level.
Austin May is "new" to the QB position as a starter, but he has significant varsity experience. In 2013 he had 23 receptions, 32 carries, and 15 pass completions. He was on the field a lot last year and knows the system well, so it really isn't like having a QB coming into the lineup from the JV or freshman team. He will not have the targets that Miller had last season at receiver, but May has a stronger arm and is faster than Miller. On the downside, May is smaller and I am not sure he has the same field vision. Burg will field a very big experienced line, so May SHOULD have time to make good decisions and if they can give him some holes to get through the line, he has the potential to take it to the house at any time.


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Great info, it's nice to hear intelligent answers that don't just say, "we're winning it you suck" reasoning. Keep it coming fellas.


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There will be several new QB's in the SOC II that will be very dangerous with both their arms and legs. I think May from Burg will have a very good season. Miller will definitely be missed as a 3(?) year starter with tremendous success. Early reports is that May should step in and do more than a good job.

Minford will have Joyce behind center who is also very fast and has a good arm. Both of these QB's should have a lot of success both throwing and running the ball.

Early look shows that Burg will probably have a better offensive line to start the season with all that they have returning from last year. Minford shouldn't be overlooked with Madden and company up front. I know Minford has a couple kids to replace, including McCray, so much of the offensive production will depend on giving Joyce time to throw the ball and opening holes for several returning RB's.

I am not counting out Valley who returns as back to back SOC II Champs and West should be good this year too.....but I have Burg with a slight edge early on and Minford right on their tails.

It will be interesting to see how these 2 new young men (May and Joyce) lead their teams this year. Both will make defenses pay and should have much success.

I agree with Coop.....the SOC II is there for anyone to take. Most teams should improve from week 1 to the SOC II schedule. Not sure how much depth each team has but that may be a big factor once these teams start squaring off.


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Wheelersburg will be very good.

Valley will still be good and until someone beats them they have to be given the benefit of the doubt. Although the depth and size advantage they have enjoyed lately is decreasing. Rolfe is a good quarterback, but the last few years they were a running team from the spread. Time will tell how he does when more of the load is on his shoulders.

Minford. Maybe I'm missing something but they lost a lot last year from what was an average team. With the talent they had, they should have been better last year than what the results showed. It's like they trended up the first few years that Daniels took over, but they have leveled off the last few years. Still competitive but not able to take that next step.

Waverly. Had size and talent last year. Just don't like the physical football it takes to compete in this league right now. And whether it's the weight room or whatever; until it changes they will continue to struggle.

West. No idea. Hope we improve. Discipline and fundamentals will be there. Just don't know if our talent level is on par with the top 2. And it's going to take a while to implement a new system. Schedule is tough the first 3 weeks. We could play well and easily start 0-3 or 1-2 then go into the burg game 6-3. If we win one of the first 3 we will make the playoffs and compete in the league. We shall see soon enough.


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Westfan wrote:Wheelersburg will be very good.

Valley will still be good and until someone beats them they have to be given the benefit of the doubt. Although the depth and size advantage they have enjoyed lately is decreasing. Rolfe is a good quarterback, but the last few years they were a running team from the spread. Time will tell how he does when more of the load is on his shoulders.

Minford. Maybe I'm missing something but they lost a lot last year from what was an average team. With the talent they had, they should have been better last year than what the results showed. It's like they trended up the first few years that Daniels took over, but they have leveled off the last few years. Still competitive but not able to take that next step.

Waverly. Had size and talent last year. Just don't like the physical football it takes to compete in this league right now. And whether it's the weight room or whatever; until it changes they will continue to struggle.

West. No idea. Hope we improve. Discipline and fundamentals will be there. Just don't know if our talent level is on par with the top 2. And it's going to take a while to implement a new system. Schedule is tough the first 3 weeks. We could play well and easily start 0-3 or 1-2 then go into the burg game 6-3. If we win one of the first 3 we will make the playoffs and compete in the league. We shall see soon enough.
Nice summary Westfan


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4th n Goal wrote:
Westfan wrote:Wheelersburg will be very good.

Valley will still be good and until someone beats them they have to be given the benefit of the doubt. Although the depth and size advantage they have enjoyed lately is decreasing. Rolfe is a good quarterback, but the last few years they were a running team from the spread. Time will tell how he does when more of the load is on his shoulders.

Minford. Maybe I'm missing something but they lost a lot last year from what was an average team. With the talent they had, they should have been better last year than what the results showed. It's like they trended up the first few years that Daniels took over, but they have leveled off the last few years. Still competitive but not able to take that next step.

Waverly. Had size and talent last year. Just don't like the physical football it takes to compete in this league right now. And whether it's the weight room or whatever; until it changes they will continue to struggle.

West. No idea. Hope we improve. Discipline and fundamentals will be there. Just don't know if our talent level is on par with the top 2. And it's going to take a while to implement a new system. Schedule is tough the first 3 weeks. We could play well and easily start 0-3 or 1-2 then go into the burg game 6-3. If we win one of the first 3 we will make the playoffs and compete in the league. We shall see soon enough.
Nice summary Westfan
I agree Burgfan


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^ Westfan: I agree with the assessment of Minford, I may not like it, but I have to agree with it. Minford did have Coal Grove on the schedule a few years back. Coming into that game in week 5, both teams were undefeated. Great hard hitting games that came down to the final minutes to be decided, and it helped Minford mentally with the kids knowing they can win the big game. Minford was very competitive in the SOCII those years. The plateau (leveling off) or even decline back to not being competitive in the SOCII is a direct result of scheduling, or lack thereof, coming back to bite them in the rear. When their SOCII peers are going out of the area to find better competition, and Minford keeping teams like Northwest and Rockhill on the schedule, it is what it is, and we've seen the proof so there's no denying it.

Minford moving up to D4 has nothing to do with being competitive in their own league. I don't see any teams their size or bigger on this years schedule. With the addition of Gallia for 2015, it is a step in the right direction, but still not enough. I know Minford does have another open date in week 5 for 2015. Minford is the only SOCII team with NW still on the schedule. It is beyond me why NW is still there especially when Jackson had an open date that same week. As far as scheduling, I'm interested to see which direction the Falcons will go in 2015. If they'll schedule another sub .500 program and continue keep NW around or will they step it up a notch with the rest of their SOCII peers and find a non-conference team who will make them earn their win.

As far as this year is concerned, I guess the burden is on the Falcons to prove they can win the big game(S) with the schedule they have.


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I agree Vlad. Keeping NW on the schedule does NOTHING for the program. NW was dropped to SOC I for a reason and Jackson, win or lose, would have been a much better fit. Ironton had an open date this year and maybe something could have been done to pick them up instead.....too little too late.

There has to be a happy medium with scheduling. 4-5 weeks of brutal non conference opponents that will blow you out obviously does nothing, but neither does the other end of the spectrum.

I like the Grandview Heights and Oak Hill games. Oak Hill and Minford have a good series going right now. The South Point and Rock Hill games shouldnt be on there, plain and simple. No reason to complain about it now, it is what it is. All this year's team can do is win each game at a time from the schedule they will play.


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I agree with Minford scheduling better out of conference games to make their better prepared for the league, and potentially a playoff run. Minford owns a like a 13-19-1 series record against Oak Hill and with the exceptions of a few blowouts, every game is always good. Oak Hill helps Minford prepare for the SOC2. Rock Hill and Northwest won't. Imagine if Minford's non-conference had Coal Grove, Oak Hill and Jackson within it. It may brutal but, imagine them going 6-4 or 7-3, making the playoffs and making a run. A better schedule during the regular season would only prepare better for the playoffs.


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