SOC I and II 2014-15

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Its difficult to argue that Western might have the most talent coming back, I beleive all 5 starters return. Symmes will miss Hunt and Maynard, but Payne coming back will ease some of that pain. Nd has some very good athletes and can flat get after you. Eastern losing Alley will be big but with Roney and Stanley they have the firepower to be considered the favorites until someone knocks them off. It wouldnt surprise me if any of the 4 teams mentioned win it. The difference might come down to coaching.


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First time I've posted on here but a long time reader of the site. MD, I've rarely agreed with what you post but you are spot on this time. B92 is right, It shouldn't be the top sr award but it is also not the top beaver92 award. It is the POY award as chosen by the coaches. MD, Your rumor is not a rumor, it wasn't close. The vote was 5-3-1. 3 coaches nominated girls. Of course those 3 coaches voted for their girls. That means, for those following along, that 4 of the 5 coaches without a dog in the fight, agreed on the same player. Ms. Roney is a great player but those whose responsibility it is to make the decision decided they liked Ms. Redding's season better. Congratulations to her for a great season. If anyone disagrees, tough, because it isn't changing.

Now to the topic at hand.
I think that Eastern has to be considered the favorite until someone takes it away from them. Losing Alley will definitely hurt but they're a good team, especially Roney, with a good coach.

Western and ND will probably be in the next tier. ND had a very good season and only lost 1 player. MD, best of luck to your daughter in her future in the service by the way. Shaefer is a good player who will only get better. Western should be pretty good but Woods needs to be able to stay out of foul trouble.

Symmes Valley and Clay are probably next. SV lost some good players but have some good ones coming back. Really need to catch a break health wise though. Last couple yrs have been brutal for the Vikings. Clay lost a TON but still have one of the best players in the league, Gilliland coming back. Whitely made some strides late in the yr as well. Need some other kids to step up.

The last 3 should be NB, East and Green. I believe it will be in that order but not a big difference between that trio so anything is possible.

I think the teams in each grouping will play tight games and if things are really working well on a particular night, might be able to jump up and bite someone in the group above them. Of course injuries or transfers could shake everything up.


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Been hearing some rumors of some girls from Webster transferring. Would hate to see it as next few years could be Regional/State caliber teams there. Any parents/players upset about this year is kidding themselves as Reedsville Eastern would've smoked Webster even if they got past Waterford. As others have said though, probably all talk.*


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bigbluee don't be shy , hop in and post more often . I'll respectfully argue hoops with ya . :)


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I think Eastern has to be the favorite..they have the best player in league returning in Roney along with a very good guard in Stanley. Also return 4 Other players that all contributed to a undefeated Soc Championship team this season. Coach King does a great job with these girls.I expect a very good season for the Eagles in 2014-2015!

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I won't count out ND, Mckenzie is the best coach in the league. Doing what he did last season. I see ND either winning the SOC 1, or being a very close 2nd. Those girls have a year of varsity experience, Eastern will be tough, but IMO they need to do worry bout winning a Sectional and advancing. Last 2 years, have stumbled in the tourney where it matters the most.

Believe SW should have been n the Dstrict title game, like I said and always say, you got to make the tourny runs when you are expected too. SW in the last 2 years have been Sectionsl champs and one Dstrict Runner up and stumbled this year. If they stay together they will be right back there next year and possible Regionals.

Oaks will be the elite again, their bowing out in first game will light the fire for next year. Valley will suffer with the loss of seniors. Darby as a key. Burg will be back with a vegence. Minfrd will be middle of the pack.

Just this man's "IMO"


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Heard eastern might be switching to the SVC with Waverly to make a big and small division i


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Shooterindagym wrote:I won't count out ND, Mckenzie is the best coach in the league. Doing what he did last season. I see ND either winning the SOC 1, or being a very close 2nd. Those girls have a year of varsity experience, Eastern will be tough, but IMO they need to do worry bout winning a Sectional and advancing. Last 2 years, have stumbled in the tourney where it matters the most.



Just this man's "IMO"
Eastern won a sectional this year and lost to a very good Webster team in sectional final last year..


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beaver92 wrote:Heard eastern might be switching to the SVC with Waverly to make a big and small division i
Rumors are definitely out there...however it would not be this upcoming year.IF it did happen,my guess would be in 2016 at the earliest but who knows?


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Valley will have some nice players but they did lose some really good talent. I don't see them finishing ahead of South Webster. Webster will be strong and deep and my pick to win the league. Burg may challenge for the league. Oak Hill will be pretty good but definitely not unbeatable. Adkins was really good on offense and defense. This may very well be the last hurrah for the Oaks. Minford lost a ton but will have the Daniels girl next year. Northwest will be capable of beating anyone on a given night as the return nearly everyone. Waverly was more competitive at times this season and will look to get over the hump next year. West may be in big trouble.

Should be another good year with three or four teams challenging for the top spot and nearly everyone capable of pulling an upset.


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toast wrote:Valley will have some nice players but they did lose some really good talent. I don't see them finishing ahead of South Webster. Webster will be strong and deep and my pick to win the league. Burg may challenge for the league. Oak Hill will be pretty good but definitely not unbeatable. Adkins was really good on offense and defense. This may very well be the last hurrah for the Oaks. Minford lost a ton but will have the Daniels girl next year. Northwest will be capable of beating anyone on a given night as the return nearly everyone. Waverly was more competitive at times this season and will look to get over the hump next year. West may be in big trouble.

Should be another good year with three or four teams challenging for the top spot and nearly everyone capable of pulling an upset.
Except for Conley and Ridout, West's big contributors last year were freshman and sophomores. They will get progressively better the next couple years, especially if Mikala White comes back 100 percent from her knee injury. A year of experience under the coaching staffs belt will make a big diffence also.

May only be coincidence, but the Webster twins dad and the Oaks coach had a long conversation today at the Rio GBA tournament.


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who are the twins from webster


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Westfan wrote:May only be coincidence, but the Webster twins dad and the Oaks coach had a long conversation today at the Rio GBA tournament.
He is probably still stunned at the one-and-done tournament showing for his Oaks this year


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4th n Goal wrote:
Westfan wrote:May only be coincidence, but the Webster twins dad and the Oaks coach had a long conversation today at the Rio GBA tournament.
He is probably still stunned at the one-and-done tournament showing for his Oaks this year
Agree completely. If those kids leave, they're going to a team that lost their best player (BY FAR) and couldn't get out of the Sectional, and leaving a team that will compete for district titles for the next few years. Goes to show you just what some of these "parents" want. It isn't about team work, pride in your school, or playing for your teammates, it's all about Me! Me! Me!

Such a shame.


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Ain't that the truth.


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I feel bad for the kids. A school spends time and $$$ to develop the kid and then the kid leaves. I don't always think its the parents. But most of the time. Lets not forget the coaches who recruit the kids. With the talent that has " moved into the district" @ oakhill over the past decade , you would think they could at least get out of the sectional. How many D1 players has oakhill had?


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onthefence wrote:I feel bad for the kids. A school spends time and $$$ to develop the kid and then the kid leaves. I don't always think its the parents. But most of the time. Lets not forget the coaches who recruit the kids. With the talent that has " moved into the district" @ oakhill over the past decade , you would think they could at least get out of the sectional. How many D1 players has oakhill had?
Couldn't agree more, onthefence.

This has been a persistent problem for years. In this particular situation, it was threatened so much that it turned into a "crap or get off the toilet" type situation.

Everyone knows Doug recruits ---- except several Oak Hill Fans. Several people saw Doug talking to the dad in question for an extended period of time at an AAU event this weekend. What do you think they were discussing? Crimea? Malaysian Flight 370? Lets not be oblivious, everyone knows what the topic of conversation was.

I have nothing but respect for the (very few) parents left that preach commitment, teamwork, responsibility, and pride in your hometown over the other nonsense.


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Re: SOC I and II 2014-15

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Even if these girls leave, Webster will be fine. For such a small school they seem to have lots of great players


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Just to play devils advocate a bit -- what' if a coach ( any coach not just d hale ) has a parent of an great athlete approach you and say " my daughter is interesting in transferring to your school " what's a coach supposed to do ? Say no thanks ? Most of the time it's a two person tango not a coach dragging a kid away from some school . Takes two to do this dance . The transfer rules are pretty tight these days . You don't change residence it opens up a risk that no coach should be willing to take .


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Re: SOC I and II 2014-15

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Don't know what you mean by "money spent on developing" this isn't college. At the high school level it's the parents that spend the money, not the school. Schools don't pay for AAU, Camps, etc. and trust the people involved spend alot of their own money developing their kids. Just like high school coaches who leave or "greener" pastures (which happened to Webster last year) kids now have the option to play where it best fits them. I see no problem, it as always happened just nw days you have the open enrollment capability. Maybe this parent has given the coach chances to make em stay. I know with Webster losing in the District Semi's this year it was a big disappointment to some and rightfully so. Plus the kids n question are alot better than several other players who seen more playing time. They could have made a big difference in the 4 losses. There is always more involved in transferring then commitment or winning.

And I agree Man, if a parent/kid approaches you, you are not going to say no, do t talk to me. You are going to sure if you move or enroll in my school great, but I am not asking you too. Always easy to get on here and critize and throw stones.


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