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Wellston seems to be stuck at that 4-6 mark in recent years. saw .500 in 2011 but other than that been just 4-6. they aren't getting worse but not getting any better. IMO they have the talent to be very good for the next couple of years what are some opinions to finally see the results the folks at Wellston want.


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Not sure if the rockets will get out of the mid win range but I could see 6-7 wins on next years schedule if they play well all season. Jackson, Athens and Meigs are the only sure losses imo. Huntington, Southeastern, River Valley and Alex should be wins and VC, Oak Hill and NY are winable. I would say 5-5 or 4-6 if I were a betting man right now.. but alot can change between November and late August.


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What does wellston return for the 2014 season? How many returning starters? I know they were very inexperienced this season so I'm assuming next years team will be much older?


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Dundas wrote:Not sure if the rockets will get out of the mid win range but I could see 6-7 wins on next years schedule if they play well all season. Jackson, Athens and Meigs are the only sure losses imo. Huntington, Southeastern, River Valley and Alex should be wins and VC, Oak Hill and NY are winable. I would say 5-5 or 4-6 if I were a betting man right now.. but alot can change between November and late August.
No way the NY game is winnable, Remember all those Freshman they started this Year will be Sophmoresnect year!!! LOL


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Wellston actually plays a 9 game schedule. The Jackson game is the closest thing to a guaranteed loss since Logan was beating up on Athens when they were in the SEOAL. For the love of money the sports administration has decided to make the Rockets only have 9 chances to win every year. This works out great for Jackson. They know they can begin every year with a victory.

Yes I know Wellston has won one of these rival games in the last 10 years but look at the last 25 years. Wellston football is going no where until the players are given the chance to play a 10 game schedule.


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Toldya, that attitude that you display and most of the Wellston community believes in is the reason the kids play a 9 game schedule. That game funds your entire football program so it's not going away. So everyone there needs to suck it up and put in the time and hard work to find a way to win week one instead of making excuses all spring and summer about why they can't win!


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Wellston or Jackson either one can go without the money this game brings in.


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First of all I don't necessarily think just because 2 teams have played each other for 100 years that necessarily that is the way it should always be...especially if the results in the last 30 years have been lopsided, or do not resemble competitive contests.

I would hate to see this game end, but it isn't a rivalry game when a team is 2 for 30 or whatever it is, that is not a rivalry, that is simply doing something for the sake of it has always been done, and therefore it must continue mentality. The saying doing something over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity may be applicable here. That is not to say Wellston can't beat Jackson or never will, it just means maybe it is in the best interest to change things up till the balance comes back to even...or at least close to it.

Jackson would need to find a gate that would equal the Wellston gate though and vice-versa. Jackson could probably do this with Chillicothe or Athens or Meigs or Logan Elm or someone like that, and I am sure Wellston could do the same.

Do I want to continue the "rivalry", yes but I am a tradition guy.

Do I think it may be better for Wellston short term to change it up, and could the two teams find a financial gate that comes close to this match up...well...ummm...yeah maybe so.


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Sounds like the "winds of change" are starting to blow through Wellston.
As for the Wellston/Jackson rivalry . . . Wellston has not had much recent success,
but if you go this game (and I do when I can) it is packed and the crowds are great.
I'm not from either town so I don't have a dog in the show, but this game needs to go on.
There is a lot of $$$$ made off this game for both athletic depts. As for a team like Chilly
bringing in a large crowd . . . please. Chilly has a nice team this year so maybe, but in a normal year,
not gonna happen.


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Da Bears wrote:Sounds like the "winds of change" are starting to blow through Wellston.
As for the Wellston/Jackson rivalry . . . Wellston has not had much recent success,
but if you go this game (and I do when I can) it is packed and the crowds are great.
I'm not from either town so I don't have a dog in the show, but this game needs to go on.
There is a lot of $$$$ made off this game for both athletic depts. As for a team like Chilly
bringing in a large crowd . . . please. Chilly has a nice team this year so maybe, but in a normal year,
not gonna happen.
I hear you on Chillicothe, my assumption here is the Hinton era continues to produce winning...and thus...a fan base and people willing to travel. But I know, up until the past couple years, not very big crowds.

With the new stadium and Hinton...little different feel there on Friday nights now.

Don't get me wrong as I said above, I don't want the game to not continue, I am a tradition guy. But do I understand someone from Wellston asking the question? Yes I do, and there is nothing wrong with asking the question I suppose.


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Why not make it the jamboree game? Still have a big gate and neither team is hurt by it.


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Dundas wrote:Why not make it the jamboree game? Still have a big gate and neither team is hurt by it.
There you go Dundas coming up with good ideas and thinking outside the box. Shame on you lol.

As I mentioned I am a tradition guy, but I am not sure I would be a tradition guy (or would be less of one) if I was wearing blue and gold. I would probably be pushing for a pretty hard discussion to determined is this really the best thing for our program.


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Wouldn't be surprised now that a certain coach has become available that there may be some changes made in the land of the Golden Rockets
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HSFBFAN wrote:Wouldn't be surprised now sense a certain coach has become available that there may be some changes made in the land of the Golden Rockets
Arno won't be back. I think Hutch and his staff have earned at least two more years to make this team a contender. They had so much youth this season and still managed four wins. Playing oak Hill tough and beating NY which doesn't happen that often. I think overall this season was a success. Same goes for VC. Just be lucky your "down" years are 3-7, 4-6 instead of 1-9, 2-8!


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I'm not saying coach Hutch should or shouldn't be let go. I'm just saying because of a personal conversation I had with coach Arno I believe he might come if asked that's all


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That may be true but I just think it would be a mistake right now. Maybe in a couple if years...but I think if you make a change now, it will set the Rockets back a little bit. Arno has had success no doubt and he rebuilt one of the most "down" football programs in the state in just a few seasons. He clearly knows how to coach, but I think given time, Hutch can be just as successful.


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[quote="doubleplay643"][quote="Dundas"]Why not make it the jamboree game? Still have a big gate and neither team is hurt by it.[/quote]

There you go Dundas coming up with good ideas and thinking outside the box. Shame on you lol.

As I mentioned I am a tradition guy, but I am not sure I would be a tradition guy (or would be less of one) if I was wearing blue and gold. I would probably be pushing for a pretty hard discussion to determined is this really the best thing for our program.[/quote]

That sound like a good idea tradition continues and big gate. Jackson could pick up better competition that would give them more playoff points. Athens,Logan Elm,Valley would be interesting.


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In addition to Jackson, does Wellston's schedule have Athens, NY, Meigs, VC, Oak Hill on it next year?


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I am shocked someone came up with the jamboree game idea. That has been my plan all along. I realize the gate would suffer some but it would still draw a large crowd. It would also give Wellston the opportunity to have success in the regular season. A true 10 game schedule. Wellston lost some games close this season that just an ounce of positive attitude and belief may have been turned into victories.

I believe the early beat down losses to Jackson have also lead to smaller crowds at home during the season.The fans say who wants to go see the team. They will get killed.

Give the team a chance to start the season 1-0. Win 7-8 games. Host a playoff game. That is another way to make up any lost revenues.

The playoffs are the measure of success. Wellston is forced to make the playoffs on a 9 game schedule. Learn from Jackson. Schedule a season opener that you can beat 28 years out of 30. I guarantee you if Wellston beat Jackson 28 years of of 30 the Ironmen would have quit scheduling Wellston a long time ago. They would just raise the price of parking if they needed more revenue.

No wonder Jackson loves this match up.


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According to the OHSAA website, Wellston has Jackson, Huntington, Southeastern, and Oak Hill on the 2014 schedule in that order for the non-league portion of the schedule. River Valley will be an addition to the schedule as a new TVC Ohio opponent.

This is will be the last year that Oak Hill is on the Wellston schedule. Northwest and Eastern join the SOC I in 2015 so Oak Hill will have two less non-league games. I hope this changes as I think Oak Hill and Wellston should play every year.


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