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nutronron2012 wrote:Which team has the edge?

Offense
Quarterback--Burg
Running Backs--Valley
Wide Receivers--Burg
Offensive Line--Valley

Defense
Defensive Line--Valley
Linebackers--Valley
Secondary--? Even (not really sure, Dylan Miller makes Burgs DB's good)

Special Teams
Would have to say even here. Both teams have excellent speed and very good, young kickers

So IMO, I would probably give Burg the Edge Offensively(that could be argued either way) Valley has the edge defensively and special teams should be even. Burg will have the home field advantage. So Burg gets the edge there and the comfort of home.

Should be an EPIC battle to say the least.
Good summary. I think both sides have enough good arguments why our teams should win this one, but the bottom line is that the kids have the execute the game plans. I think that the Burg offense is a lot better than last year and is averaging about 10 more points a game through the first 8. E.Miller has gotten a lot better at getting up to the line and recognizing the defense and making the correct decision based on what the defense is giving him. This will be the coldest weather game so far this year, but it should be dry compared to last year's game. Is it Friday yet??

GO PIRATES!


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The Oaf wrote:
nutronron2012 wrote:
yabbadabbadoo wrote:Three more days.


Can't wait for this game, then the Buckeye game Saturday oh and then the Bengals game Sunday


Did I happen to mention I'M GOING TO ALL THREEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Lucky you. Wish I could say the same. Sounds like an awesome weekend. Hope you go 0-1 on friday and 2-0 Saturday and Sunday :-D
Hey 2 outta 3 ain't bad! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I say burg in this one .


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then what wrote:Can anyone verify this?

In the series Wheelersburg leads 33-4

I heard that yesterday and wow if its true that is total domination!

The last 2 years Valley won. It just happened to be the weakest Wheelersburg teams in the history of the program. The pirates are back and will continue to dominate the series on Friday! Go burg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm sure these kids from Lucasville are not concerned with things that went on before they were born. They have "dominated" W'burg two years in a row, and now have the confidence to do it again. All the pressure is on W'burg to preform, not Valley, and overall Valley does have the better team.

Anyhow, I thought you mentioned before the 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in W'burg history..... must be a case of selective memory.


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Vladimir wrote:
then what wrote:Can anyone verify this?

In the series Wheelersburg leads 33-4

I heard that yesterday and wow if its true that is total domination!

The last 2 years Valley won. It just happened to be the weakest Wheelersburg teams in the history of the program. The pirates are back and will continue to dominate the series on Friday! Go burg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm sure these kids from Lucasville are not concerned with things that went on before they were born. They have "dominated" W'burg two years in a row, and now have the confidence to do it again. All the pressure is on W'burg to preform, not Valley, and overall Valley does have the better team.

Anyhow, I thought you mentioned before the 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in W'burg history..... must be a case of selective memory.

I can't wait until Friday. All these Wanna be pretenders from Valley will leave Ed Miller stadium realizing that the Dominate program that we have is back in full force. 33-4 WOW! I'm not sure How Valley fans even think they have 1/2 the program Wheelersburg has with only beating us 4 times. I will give Valley the last 2 years becuase we had a very weak senior football class the last 2 years but the talent level is back to where it usually is at Wheelersburg. I will remind the Valley fans once again this years team for Wheelersburg is loaded with talent. Friday will be like every other year of those 33 wins. Valley fans always talk like they can play with us and try to rationlize matchups and so forth but it always ends with a pirate victory. I'm sorry but I cannot even begin to repect or fear a team that has that bad of a record against us 33-4 unbeleivable! You must have mistaken me for someone else I never stated 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in history so no I don't have selective memory! But maybe with those 4 wins you Valley Fans have selective memories from the last 2 years which is all good. We will jar your memory on Friday. lol 33-4 WOW!


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then what

You are reading things that aren't there. You remind me of Steeler fans that point to six Super Bowls when someone talks about them being 2-4. What you are talking about is in the past. Last year's game was more evident than the year before when Valley was clearly better. I think we were better than Valley last year but they were gutty, played tougher, made less mistakes, and we were outcoached. Those were the things that always happened to Valley in the past. I'm really afraid that the worm has turned and the Indians have our number. They are confident that they can beat us, because they have beat us! That was a big difference from Burg Valley matchups of years past. I respect Valley as an opponent because they are worthy of it! They haven't lost in a long time and they have a darn good team! Confidence is one thing but arrogance is another. If you don't respect an opponent like Valley, you could be in for it.


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Then what?

This is just not the case when it come to football, it ranges from girls softball to Jr sports. With this obsession you have with, "Domination," if you can answer yes to 3 or more of the following, you might want to seek some help, or you may just end up being a resident of Lucasville.. From the DSM-IV

A) A pervasive pattern of cruel, demeaning and aggressive behavior, beginning by early adulthood, as indicated by the repeated occurrence of at least three of the following:

1.Has used physical cruelty or violence for the purpose of establishing dominance in a relationship (not merely to achieve some non-interpersonal goal, such as striking someone in order to rob him or her)
2.Humiliates or demeans people in the presence of others
3.Has treated or disciplined someone under his or her control unusually harshly (e.g., a child, spouse, student, prisoner, or patient)
4.Is amused by, or takes pleasure in, the psychological or physical suffering of others (including animals)
5.Has lied for the purpose of harming or inflicting pain on others (not merely to achieve some other goal)
6.Gets other people to do what he or she wants by frightening them (through intimidation or even terror)
7.Restricts the autonomy of people with whom he or she has close relationship (e.g., will not let spouse leave the house unaccompanied or permit teenage daughter to attend social functions)
8.Is fascinated by violence, weapons, martial arts, injury, or torture


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then what wrote:
Vladimir wrote:
then what wrote:Can anyone verify this?

In the series Wheelersburg leads 33-4

I heard that yesterday and wow if its true that is total domination!

The last 2 years Valley won. It just happened to be the weakest Wheelersburg teams in the history of the program. The pirates are back and will continue to dominate the series on Friday! Go burg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm sure these kids from Lucasville are not concerned with things that went on before they were born. They have "dominated" W'burg two years in a row, and now have the confidence to do it again. All the pressure is on W'burg to preform, not Valley, and overall Valley does have the better team.

Anyhow, I thought you mentioned before the 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in W'burg history..... must be a case of selective memory.

I can't wait until Friday. All these Wanna be pretenders from Valley will leave Ed Miller stadium realizing that the Dominate program that we have is back in full force. 33-4 WOW! I'm not sure How Valley fans even think they have 1/2 the program Wheelersburg has with only beating us 4 times. I will give Valley the last 2 years becuase we had a very weak senior football class the last 2 years but the talent level is back to where it usually is at Wheelersburg. I will remind the Valley fans once again this years team for Wheelersburg is loaded with talent. Friday will be like every other year of those 33 wins. Valley fans always talk like they can play with us and try to rationlize matchups and so forth but it always ends with a pirate victory. I'm sorry but I cannot even begin to repect or fear a team that has that bad of a record against us 33-4 unbeleivable! You must have mistaken me for someone else I never stated 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in history so no I don't have selective memory! But maybe with those 4 wins you Valley Fans have selective memories from the last 2 years which is all good. We will jar your memory on Friday. lol 33-4 WOW!
I may be wrong. But it sounds like you're trying to convince yourself that Burg can win. Burg can win, but they will not have a chance to compete if they walk on the field friday with your attitude. To win a game, you have to respect your opponent(not fear them, but respect them). I can guarentee you that Valley will respect Wheelersburg before and after the game, but never fear them. Both these teams are loaded with fine, young athletes who will give their all. And for many of them, it will be their last chance to win a SOC2 Championship. The last thing on any players mind when the whistle blows is 33-4. They will be thinking and playing for the "Here and Now". Not what happened 40 years ago or last year.


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then what wrote:
Vladimir wrote:
then what wrote:Can anyone verify this?

In the series Wheelersburg leads 33-4

I heard that yesterday and wow if its true that is total domination!

The last 2 years Valley won. It just happened to be the weakest Wheelersburg teams in the history of the program. The pirates are back and will continue to dominate the series on Friday! Go burg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm sure these kids from Lucasville are not concerned with things that went on before they were born. They have "dominated" W'burg two years in a row, and now have the confidence to do it again. All the pressure is on W'burg to preform, not Valley, and overall Valley does have the better team.

Anyhow, I thought you mentioned before the 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in W'burg history..... must be a case of selective memory.

I can't wait until Friday. All these Wanna be pretenders from Valley will leave Ed Miller stadium realizing that the Dominate program that we have is back in full force. 33-4 WOW! I'm not sure How Valley fans even think they have 1/2 the program Wheelersburg has with only beating us 4 times. I will give Valley the last 2 years becuase we had a very weak senior football class the last 2 years but the talent level is back to where it usually is at Wheelersburg. I will remind the Valley fans once again this years team for Wheelersburg is loaded with talent. Friday will be like every other year of those 33 wins. Valley fans always talk like they can play with us and try to rationlize matchups and so forth but it always ends with a pirate victory. I'm sorry but I cannot even begin to repect or fear a team that has that bad of a record against us 33-4 unbeleivable! You must have mistaken me for someone else I never stated 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in history so no I don't have selective memory! But maybe with those 4 wins you Valley Fans have selective memories from the last 2 years which is all good. We will jar your memory on Friday. lol 33-4 WOW!
This is pretty good. It's been established that this should be a good game and either could win. And if it's your opinion that Burg wins by 4 scores, then so be it, you won't hear me complain. But is this some serious trolling or what? Who knows what the series record will be ten years from now but this post makes me think that deep down, you're incredibly scared of Valley. IMHO


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33-4 enough said! The swagger is back in the burg you will see!


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^ It's just not this post, it ranges from girls softball to jr. high and so on. I can tell there are at least 2 patterns from the DSM-IV going on here. His ego is so caught up with the past, he thinks others should kneel down to what he perceives as "Dominance," and has a cult mentality when it comes to W'burg athletics.

All joking aside, if W'burg does lose this game I hope he doesn't have any guns in the house, or at least is smart enough to give them to a friend until a few weeks after the playoffs.
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I just hope the Burg game plan is to keep doing what they have done for the first 8 weeks. Myself, along with most other Burg fans didn't understand the play calling last year. If you are a passing team....pass the ball! Either the defense gives you a few yard cushion and you take the 3-5 yard gain or if they want to play bump and run, you throw over the top. If Burg attempts 25+ passes this game, I like our chances.


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Dr_Know wrote:then what

You are reading things that aren't there. You remind me of Steeler fans that point to six Super Bowls when someone talks about them being 2-4. What you are talking about is in the past. Last year's game was more evident than the year before when Valley was clearly better. I think we were better than Valley last year but they were gutty, played tougher, made less mistakes, and we were outcoached. Those were the things that always happened to Valley in the past. I'm really afraid that the worm has turned and the Indians have our number. They are confident that they can beat us, because they have beat us! That was a big difference from Burg Valley matchups of years past. I respect Valley as an opponent because they are worthy of it! They haven't lost in a long time and they have a darn good team! Confidence is one thing but arrogance is another. If you don't respect an opponent like Valley, you could be in for it.


You can't be a burg fan or an informed burg fan with that opinion. As far as last years game we didn't run our offense! So a team that has only beaten Wheelersburg 4 times gets your respect? Your no competitor lol Its not arrogance its swagger and its knowing your going to win before you take the field and that mentality and talent is back! Are u for real? :12224 :12224 :12224


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Vladimir wrote:^ It's just not this post, it ranges from girls softball to jr. high and so on. I can tell there are at least 2 patterns from the DSM-IV going on here. His ego is so caught up with the past, he thinks others kneel down to what he perceives as "Dominance," and has a cult mentality when it comes to W'burg athletics.

All joking aside, if W'burg does lose this game I hope he doesn't have any guns in the house, or at least is smart enough to give them to a friend until a few weeks after the playoffs.



Its called community pride and tradition something you valley fans pretend to have! I heard Valley was copying our noise makers this week! thats funny lol.


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then what wrote:
Vladimir wrote:
then what wrote:Can anyone verify this?

In the series Wheelersburg leads 33-4

I heard that yesterday and wow if its true that is total domination!

The last 2 years Valley won. It just happened to be the weakest Wheelersburg teams in the history of the program. The pirates are back and will continue to dominate the series on Friday! Go burg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm sure these kids from Lucasville are not concerned with things that went on before they were born. They have "dominated" W'burg two years in a row, and now have the confidence to do it again. All the pressure is on W'burg to preform, not Valley, and overall Valley does have the better team.

Anyhow, I thought you mentioned before the 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in W'burg history..... must be a case of selective memory.

I can't wait until Friday. All these Wanna be pretenders from Valley will leave Ed Miller stadium realizing that the Dominate program that we have is back in full force. 33-4 WOW! I'm not sure How Valley fans even think they have 1/2 the program Wheelersburg has with only beating us 4 times. I will give Valley the last 2 years becuase we had a very weak senior football class the last 2 years but the talent level is back to where it usually is at Wheelersburg. I will remind the Valley fans once again this years team for Wheelersburg is loaded with talent. Friday will be like every other year of those 33 wins. Valley fans always talk like they can play with us and try to rationlize matchups and so forth but it always ends with a pirate victory. I'm sorry but I cannot even begin to repect or fear a team that has that bad of a record against us 33-4 unbeleivable! You must have mistaken me for someone else I never stated 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in history so no I don't have selective memory! But maybe with those 4 wins you Valley Fans have selective memories from the last 2 years which is all good. We will jar your memory on Friday. lol 33-4 WOW!
I know coming from a school that dropped their football program gives you somewhat of a handicap on things, but come on man!!! 8) :mrgreen:

In all seriousness, the last two Burg teams were certainly not the two worst teams in Burg history. They likely weren't even the two worst teams since you yourself moved there. There's no doubting the Burg domination of the history in this series, but there are a couple of facts that you should be cautious of when puffing your chest out with insults towards Valley fans:

1) You personally had absolutely nothing to do with any of Burg's wins over Valley. You can't even claim any varsity wins over them in your household. (I'm not taking a personal shot at you. Wether you know who I am or not, we've never had a problem and I enjoyed coaching your younger son quite a few years back. I think you're a good guy, just a little too excited to knock my people 8) )

2) As was pointed out on this site before last year's game, none of the kids from ANY of those 33 wins will be on the field for the Pirates Friday night, so none of that will matter. The thing I've always respected the most about Burg's programs in all sports is their lack of need to boast about previous accomplishments. I had some good friends from Burg tell me, all the way back I'm '97, that no class wants to be the class not to win. That showed me that long-term success isn't about looking back, its about always focusing forward. Every year, every series should be viewed as 0-0....it helps keep you hungry.

On a side note, best of luck to your son this week! I think he's a talented young man with a bright future.


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then what wrote:
Vladimir wrote:^ It's just not this post, it ranges from girls softball to jr. high and so on. I can tell there are at least 2 patterns from the DSM-IV going on here. His ego is so caught up with the past, he thinks others kneel down to what he perceives as "Dominance," and has a cult mentality when it comes to W'burg athletics.

All joking aside, if W'burg does lose this game I hope he doesn't have any guns in the house, or at least is smart enough to give them to a friend until a few weeks after the playoffs.



Its called community pride and tradition something you valley fans pretend to have! I heard Valley was copying our noise makers this week! thats funny lol.
I want to see that statistical proof that Valley fans pretend to have community pride and tradition.


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then what wrote:
Vladimir wrote:
then what wrote:Can anyone verify this?

In the series Wheelersburg leads 33-4

I heard that yesterday and wow if its true that is total domination!

The last 2 years Valley won. It just happened to be the weakest Wheelersburg teams in the history of the program. The pirates are back and will continue to dominate the series on Friday! Go burg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm sure these kids from Lucasville are not concerned with things that went on before they were born. They have "dominated" W'burg two years in a row, and now have the confidence to do it again. All the pressure is on W'burg to preform, not Valley, and overall Valley does have the better team.

Anyhow, I thought you mentioned before the 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in W'burg history..... must be a case of selective memory.

I can't wait until Friday. All these Wanna be pretenders from Valley will leave Ed Miller stadium realizing that the Dominate program that we have is back in full force. 33-4 WOW! I'm not sure How Valley fans even think they have 1/2 the program Wheelersburg has with only beating us 4 times. I will give Valley the last 2 years becuase we had a very weak senior football class the last 2 years but the talent level is back to where it usually is at Wheelersburg. I will remind the Valley fans once again this years team for Wheelersburg is loaded with talent. Friday will be like every other year of those 33 wins. Valley fans always talk like they can play with us and try to rationlize matchups and so forth but it always ends with a pirate victory. I'm sorry but I cannot even begin to repect or fear a team that has that bad of a record against us 33-4 unbeleivable! You must have mistaken me for someone else I never stated 2000-2002 teams were the weakest in history so no I don't have selective memory! But maybe with those 4 wins you Valley Fans have selective memories from the last 2 years which is all good. We will jar your memory on Friday. lol 33-4 WOW!

I know for a fact that there isn't a single Valley fan after your repect!


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@Then What

First of all denial is not a river in Egypt, but it's common as a first defense from an individual such as yourself.

It's not any of the above things you mentioned as (Pride, Tradition, or Swagger.) Personally attacking kids thru an internet forum, as you did last week, has nothing to do with pride nor tradition and its actually pretty weak.

As I have many family members that have played for W'burg championship teams through the 70s-80s, none of them act like this. They've never had to say anything and always proved it on the field or through their actions in life. They were always taught to respect every opponent, not to run their mouths, and if they ever gave the " We're number 1 sign" they knew their coach would break their hand off, as arrogance was never tolerated. Their coach made it very clear, so their was no doubt what would happen if they acted in such a manner.

Some of them have read your posts and have PMed me on what you perceive as tradition and pride and are quick to point of they doubt you ever played football for W'burg, and are glad that many realize those within the W'burg football program would never act in such a manner. I can guarantee you that Coach Woodward and staff respects the Valley football program and are teaching their players to do the same. They wouldn't be practicing this week if they did not. Honestly, I bet they wish you'd shut your mouth cause you're giving Valley motivation and making the W'burg community look bad.
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then what wrote:
Dr_Know wrote:then what

You are reading things that aren't there. You remind me of Steeler fans that point to six Super Bowls when someone talks about them being 2-4. What you are talking about is in the past. Last year's game was more evident than the year before when Valley was clearly better. I think we were better than Valley last year but they were gutty, played tougher, made less mistakes, and we were outcoached. Those were the things that always happened to Valley in the past. I'm really afraid that the worm has turned and the Indians have our number. They are confident that they can beat us, because they have beat us! That was a big difference from Burg Valley matchups of years past. I respect Valley as an opponent because they are worthy of it! They haven't lost in a long time and they have a darn good team! Confidence is one thing but arrogance is another. If you don't respect an opponent like Valley, you could be in for it.


You can't be a burg fan or an informed burg fan with that opinion. As far as last years game we didn't run our offense! So a team that has only beaten Wheelersburg 4 times gets your respect? Your no competitor lol Its not arrogance its swagger and its knowing your going to win before you take the field and that mentality and talent is back! Are u for real? :12224 :12224 :12224
Are you for real? I see a team that beat us and returns a ton of talent, how is that so hard to understand? I hope like hell that we win Friday night but that doesn't mean I'm going to thump my chest and talk trash like a young pup. I've been around the block and have seen too much to not respect an opponent with the quality talent and coaching that Valley will bring to the hill on Friday. Heck, until Jesco said you had a son I would have thought you were posting from study hall. I'm sure Burg knew they would win last year but they did not perform. Maybe it was coaching, maybe it was overconfidence and arrogance. All I know is stuff like the picture at the beginning of this thread makes us look bad and provides Valley with extra motivation. Making the 2 time defending champ feel like an underdog isn't something I want my team doing.


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Vlad, there is no doubt this guy has played zero football. As an ex-coach and official, I've witnessed first hand how this attitude gets you in trouble. When you don't respect your opponent they tend to have a greater drive and fight in them. When they have that drive and fight and the talent level is similar, good teams get beat.


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