7-1 Oak Hill @ 2-6 Ironton
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I've always admired the Ironton football program but they are definitely lacking in the discipline department this year. I've never seen that out of a fighting tiger team before. They were the dirtiest team Oak Hill has played this year. Just flagrant cheap shots and smack talking. They could have actually had more personal foul penalties then was even called. Hopefully the coach gets that corrected and they start playing Ironton football again.
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first i'm glad to hear the fighting tigers won. I pulled up lame with the flu Wednesday and could not go.but i'm not liking what i'm hearing about arrogant , cocky thug type play. that has never, I repeat never been ironton's style of play. so for outrsiders asking that question, it is absolutely not normal I been watching fighting tiger football since birth in 1960. ironton has always been known for hard, smashmouth football, but clean to a fault. they'll shake your hand with dignity whether we get our butt kicked, or they dish out the butt kickin, you can ask anybody in the state and they'll tell you that. so this is not the character of the ironton team. I take people at their word what they seen, I was not there last night. congratulations on a hard fought victory, but at what cost to their character, I cannot say. let's hope this ummmmmmmmmmmm, gets sweated, and ironed out this week.
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I'm gonna assume you missed OH talking sh!t all night long and piling on late every single play. Maybe your just one of those guys who can only see it one way! Once again with these officials we're all fortunate it wasn't much worse! When you're in a heated contest it does get testy from time to time! The better team won the game and the score should've been much worse!Bucknut27 wrote:I've always admired the Ironton football program but they are definitely lacking in the discipline department this year. I've never seen that out of a fighting tiger team before. They were the dirtiest team Oak Hill has played this year. Just flagrant cheap shots and smack talking. They could have actually had more personal foul penalties then was even called. Hopefully the coach gets that corrected and they start playing Ironton football again.
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Maybe next time Ironton should bring a couple more of those black and white striped guys with them. I noticed the Oak Hill coach trying to SCREAM for a time out for well over 30 seconds while the sideline official is talking to the chain gang and people on the sideline from Ironton. Obviously, he must have been new to town and wanted to know where they could hang out afterwards. If this game was played at a different place, Oak Hill wins. They were definitely the better team all evening. As far as things like "hitting hard" or what people may call "dirty plays," thoase are going to happen. However, if an official doesn't intervene and nip it in the bud, you get both teams and coaches getting upset, and that's what happened last night. Also, I wonder what the state of Ironton football is going to be when they join the OVC? Most of their talent comes from other schools in Lawrence County.
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What if? What if? We could ask that all day long! Humble in victory and gracious in defeat! Good Luck IF you make the playoffs!
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It had been all over the place all year! Find something that works an then he goes away from it. Quick slants across the middle would have been open all night for #80. Seen that the Oaks was keying on the run up the middle, so what did we do run it up the middle. I don't know who is calling the offensive plays but that really needs some work. If u wanna win u need 7-8 carries by #8 and a few receptions by #80. I don't think he will get any more discipline with this team. I think the boys are fed up as well!pigskinguru wrote:Thanks for the reply Maniac66! Agreed! To reach potential, they will have to display better discipline. Also, His play calling was all over the place. Never really stuck to anything consistently until last two late drives and you see the result when he finally did. Doesn't look like he is sure what kind of team he wants to be right now. Good luck against Raceland!maniac66 wrote:This is only Coach Vass's 2nd year and I believe he is still trying to find a team identity I know he wants his own and not live in Coach Lutz's shadow and the way he played so I will give him some slack there.
As for the discipline this is a young cocky Ironton team but they need to realize that they are only hurting them self's and the program and that is the Coaches fault for not teaching them that.
Raceland is next and if this team wants it's own identity now is the time to play up to their potential and within control and show who they are.
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Ironton will be a lot better next year and the coaches will coach a lot better next year.
As for Ironton getting most of their talent talent from the other OVC school give it a rest this get's old every year Ironton will be fine and if kids come to Ironton they come if they don't they don't.
Winning will correct all that and that is what Ironton needs to focus on doing now winning.
As for Ironton getting most of their talent talent from the other OVC school give it a rest this get's old every year Ironton will be fine and if kids come to Ironton they come if they don't they don't.
Winning will correct all that and that is what Ironton needs to focus on doing now winning.
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Legitimate question for the Tiger faithful. Is Vass officially on the hot seat? Certainly no disrespect intended but it sure seems like a lot of you aren't very pleased with the product he's putting on the field. Losing to more talented teams is one thing and he can't control that and I also understand the schedule is overwhelming, but penalties, play calling, and discipline are clearly reflections on the coaching staff and they could and should be able to control that. Like YTB says, this isn't the Fighting Tiger football philosophy being displayed right now. Again, no pot stirring, just posing a valid question.
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I see it both ways, thank you. OH had one personal foul and the kid didn't play much after that as Coach Dugan gave him an ear full and set him down. I lost count of irontons personal fouls and they could have had many more called. What I'm saying is exactly what a poster above said. I've seen Ironton play multiple times thru the years. They would beat the snot out of you and then help you up after. They were always pure class. What I saw last night is not what I'm used to seeing from the fighting tigers and hope the coach gets it turned around. Good luck the rest of the way.on a mission wrote:I'm gonna assume you missed OH talking sh!t all night long and piling on late every single play. Maybe your just one of those guys who can only see it one way! Once again with these officials we're all fortunate it wasn't much worse! When you're in a heated contest it does get testy from time to time! The better team won the game and the score should've been much worse!Bucknut27 wrote:I've always admired the Ironton football program but they are definitely lacking in the discipline department this year. I've never seen that out of a fighting tiger team before. They were the dirtiest team Oak Hill has played this year. Just flagrant cheap shots and smack talking. They could have actually had more personal foul penalties then was even called. Hopefully the coach gets that corrected and they start playing Ironton football again.
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I don't think he is yet I do believe you will have to address several issues when the season ends.The Oaf wrote:Legitimate question for the Tiger faithful. Is Vass officially on the hot seat? Certainly no disrespect intended but it sure seems like a lot of you aren't very pleased with the product he's putting on the field. Losing to more talented teams is one thing and he can't control that and I also understand the schedule is overwhelming, but penalties, play calling, and discipline are clearly reflections on the coaching staff and they could and should be able to control that. Like YTB says, this isn't the Fighting Tiger football philosophy being displayed right now. Again, no pot stirring, just posing a valid question.
Those issues will be identity of the team chemistry of the team leadership from the coach and staff and attitude off the players.
Things that need that need to be addressed I believe the fans will give him some slack as will the higher ups how much depends on next years team but this year I believe he is safe fans want winners and always will but this team shows promise then goes backwards and that needs to be fixed.
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Whew! This was a cold one, but it was well worth braving it. For the most part, Ironton played great defense; I was particularly impressed with their pass defense. It was definitely a sloppy one and both teams made more than their fair share of mistakes; but Ironton made the big plays when they had to.
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The Oaf wrote:Legitimate question for the Tiger faithful. Is Vass officially on the hot seat? Certainly no disrespect intended but it sure seems like a lot of you aren't very pleased with the product he's putting on the field. Losing to more talented teams is one thing and he can't control that and I also understand the schedule is overwhelming, but penalties, play calling, and discipline are clearly reflections on the coaching staff and they could and should be able to control that. Like YTB says, this isn't the Fighting Tiger football philosophy being displayed right now. Again, no pot stirring, just posing a valid question.
bear in mind i was not at the game. i'm just speaking from 1972 to the last couple years. you would have had a knot jerked in your rearend, and would have had grass drills all week for that type of behavior under coach lutz. i'm not trying to make any comparison to coaches at all, and again, i was home sick with the flu.my reaction was to seeing people post that we were playing cocky, arrogant, and dirty. again i have no idea , i was not there. i will say I've talked to people all over Kentucky, west Virginia, and ohio who have been ironton's opponents. the comment's about fighting tiger football were always the same, they hit you harder than any other of their other opponents, they were clean and fair, they never gave up, and whether they beat you, or you beat them, they were humble and respectful.my response is not a reflection of any coach or combination of coaches, i was merely saying that , if that were the case, and outsiders were asking, i wanted to make it abundantly clear, that is not typical of an ironton football team.we were always taught the polar opposite to be respected and play with dignity.
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What's inexcusable is 6 Personal Foul / Unsportsmanlike Penalties
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I totally agree if its not the turnovers that is killing us then we start doing stupid stuff to get personal fouls. I think coaches definitely need to address this problem because that is something very easily corrected If these boys know there will be consequences for doing stupid preventable mistakes.
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I totally agree if its not the turnovers that is killing us then we start doing stupid stuff to get personal fouls. I think coaches definitely need to address this problem because that is something very easily corrected If these boys know there will be consequences for doing stupid preventable mistakes.
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let me take this one step further, in my explanation. if you played ball in ironton in the 70's or early 80's. you were born in the 60's. had you acted in this manner in a game, you'd have gotten your crops dusted by your pops when you walked in the door. that was not counting how practice would have been for you come Monday. parenting was different in that time frame, the term ''timeout'' was only used at sporting events. never associated with discipline. and home the term ''knockout'' was used more in terms of discipline. you simply didn't carry yourself that way back then. whether you had a pops to keep you in line or not, there was always somebody that would. any teacher with a paddle, the bully on the bus stop, the dean of boys, the principle, the guidance counseler, your pops, or grandpops or your football coach. somebody was there to adjust your attitude.
so whether this happened or not is only here say to ole bait, because i'm reeling from the flu/but if it did, rest assured , somebody will stop it.and fighting tiger football will move forward one way or another.
so whether this happened or not is only here say to ole bait, because i'm reeling from the flu/but if it did, rest assured , somebody will stop it.and fighting tiger football will move forward one way or another.
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maniac66 wrote:Ironton will be a lot better next year and the coaches will coach a lot better next year.
As for Ironton getting most of their talent talent from the other OVC school give it a rest this get's old every year Ironton will be fine and if kids come to Ironton they come if they don't they don't.
Winning will correct all that and that is what Ironton needs to focus on doing now winning.
same group of kids (ironton) vs that same group of kids at (Ashland , Portsmouth, Ac) and if meigs 6-3 , Jackson 5-4 are fielding youngsters this year then I am just not sure what to think!
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Well I agree that someone needs to get a handle on it weather it be on the practice field or in school it is making the whole team look bad and will give the tigers a bad rep that they do not need right now. Now for the other topic I am a women and I can sit in the stands and see that the offensive coordinator does not know as much as I do . I can not figure out why we try to throw long passes when they are going to be intercepted or not caught we could now this is just a thought throw small passes over the middle to either #80 or #85 and move down the field all day. Both of these kids have height on there side in which some of the other kids do not. I am not saying the others are not capable of catching a pass but when you have a 5'8 kid trying to catch a pass when being defended by a 6' kid it usually will not work. I am not sure if Young is still at 100% yet or not but he definitely needs more running time he moved the ball atleast 10 or 11 yards almost every time he had it. I know there are a few people going to be upset for my next opinion but I think cox should be running the ball not QB I know that the only other option we have is a freshman he seems to be very good just very young and inexperienced right now and probably not ready for that kind of pressure yet, but it is just my thoughts and opinions. Now with that all said I was very happy with the win last night just wish the personal fouls would have not happened and will hopefully get resolved.
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tigermom40 wrote:Well I agree that someone needs to get a handle on it weather it be on the practice field or in school it is making the whole team look bad and will give the tigers a bad rep that they do not need right now. Now for the other topic I am a women and I can sit in the stands and see that the offensive coordinator does not know as much as I do . I can not figure out why we try to throw long passes when they are going to be intercepted or not caught we could now this is just a thought throw small passes over the middle to either #80 or #85 and move down the field all day. Both of these kids have height on there side in which some of the other kids do not. I am not saying the others are not capable of catching a pass but when you have a 5'8 kid trying to catch a pass when being defended by a 6' kid it usually will not work. I am not sure if Young is still at 100% yet or not but he definitely needs more running time he moved the ball atleast 10 or 11 yards almost every time he had it. I know there are a few people going to be upset for my next opinion but I think cox should be running the ball not QB I know that the only other option we have is a freshman he seems to be very good just very young and inexperienced right now and probably not ready for that kind of pressure yet, but it is just my thoughts and opinions. Now with that all said I was very happy with the win last night just wish the personal fouls would have not happened and will hopefully get resolved.
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got to love them 3rd down and 6-7 yd for 1st down run plays LOL , the long pass is there sometimes just ball is being underthrown. usually 3 to 4 receivers going out for passes and if you watch QB his go to receiver if not there he don't look for the other 3 he tucks and immediately runs. everyone is saying he has tailback stats instead of QB stats. don't take any of that wrong the #8 is a very good athelete
too late game 10 for change but something to definetly take a look at next year
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Re: 7-1 Oak Hill @ 2-6 Ironton
I really believe if it wasn't for the Flag Happy wing guy ( when he wasn't talking with chain crew )
It would have been a different game
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I totally agree!!! Ironton would have won by 2 TD's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!childhoodmemories wrote:I really believe if it wasn't for the Flag Happy wing guy ( when he wasn't talking with chain crew )
It would have been a different game
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