SEOAL 2013-2014

[mattash]

Who wins? Who's the returning stars.

[LetsGoPSU]

Warren is loaded

[noreply66]

Logan could shock some people this year with Fisher

[WarriorBlue]

SEAOL ROUND UP

WARREN
With the Warriors returning their 3 all district and all SEOAL players, they have to be a huge favorite to repeat as SEOAL CHAMPS. Starting with 1st team all state and SEOAL & District POY 6'4" Sr Evan French. Add 6'5" Sr Reece Patton and 6'6" Jr Mike Hall, the Warriors are as talented as ANY team in the district. French always a deep threat has worked hard in the off season to add scoring off the dribble to his already potent arsenal. Hall with a half season then a tournament run of experience at the PG position will be a matchup that most teams will find a huge headache. A great summer of high level AAU has seasoned Hall's inside game to the point he is a threat to score ANYWHERE on the court. Reece Patton is the extra weapon that give the Warriors "nuclear" status. A vicious jump shooter that loves to slash and finish at the rim. Patton is also great leaper that will lead the Warriors in rebounding in 2014.
Although lacking a true big man 6'3" Sr Andrew Drayer and 6'5" Sr Marshal Church will combine to provide bulk and a defensive presence in the paint. Out front to help PG Hall with ball handling duties will be 6'2 Jr Blake Kidder and 6'0" Aaron Mazurkiewicz. Kidder, Mazurkiewicz, Drayer, Church and Andrew Henrhor led the Warriors JV to an UNDEFEATED season in 2013.
(Provided by WarriorBlue)

PORTSMOUTH
Going into the 2012-2013 season, Portsmouth had only 1 player back with any varsity experience........Jayllen Carter. The Trojans, though, still managed a respectable 10 win season, with 2 freshmen and 5 sophomores seeing varsity time. For the bulk of the year, PHS started 6-1 freshmen Kyre Allison (games of 26, 24, and 20 points the second half of the regular season, including 17 in the tournament) and sophomores 6-2 Alex Dickerson (PHS MVP of the Boyd County Classic...12 points vs. Johnson Central) and 5-11 Sky Oliver (20 points vs. Gallia Academy). So next season lack of varsity experience will not be an issue. What will be an issue is who will play the 5 for the Trojans? Right now, 4 of the projected 5 starters should be Allison, Dickerson, Oliver, and Isaiah Lisath(12 points off the bench vs. Jackson and 10 vs. Logan). But who are the potential candidates to start at the 5 position? Sophomore 6-2 Hunter Gibson played well late in the year, while sophomores 6-2 Grant Underwood and 6-3 Micah Williams also saw varsity minutes in a couple of games. 6-1 Junior Alex Grashel also helped out at the 5 as well. 6-2 sophomore Darion Robinson is well on schedule to fully recovering from a knee injury suffered during football season and is a serious candidate to challenge for that 5 spot. This will be a key issue in the success of the 2013-2014 Trojans. PHS must have an inside presence next season, because the other 4 spots will be manned by experienced players who should be better after a year of varsity basketball. The varsity roster could end up having 5-6 kids in the 6-2 to 6-3 range, giving the Trojans some length even without a dominant 5 player.

Depth at guard will also be important to a successful 2013-2014. Junior Kahlil Lattimore and freshmen Zack Delotell saw limited varsity action, but their time will most likely increase with the need of guard play. It is uncertain at this time who from the junior varsity will step up next season and fill this need. Right now, the depth at this position looks to be thin.

The Trojans won 10 games with a variety of lineups while a large number of kids gained valuable experience. It figures that PHS can improve on the win total, but realistically Portsmouth is another year away from making a large jump in the W column. If Coach Collins can fill that 5 spot adequately, with a satisfactory rotation at the guard slots, the Trojans might just be ahead of that schedule.
(Provided by TrojanDave)

LOGAN
Fisher will add a dimension that Logan hasn't had in a LONG time. A solid inside presence. He has decent footwork, plays good defense and can block shots. The lineup of Fisher and Gabe Smith on the blocks with an Chance Cox on the wing and Joey Cottrill at the PG. Lane Little is a solid 2G with athleticism, Nick Kost has Senior experience, Evan DeLong has decent size (6-3) Logan will be young but they will have some ability.
(Provided by Logan Grad)


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[javagt]

This is how I will guess. Logan & Portsmouth might be a close battle for 2nd place. Warren is just loaded. Portsmouth will be much improved but still a bit young. Logan will also be young, but will have a different look with the Jr transfer from IMG Academy.
Warren
Portsmouth
Logan
Gallia Academy
Jackson

[trojandave]

I look for Warren to win the SEOAL rather easily........Evan French, Reece Patton, and Michael Hall may lead the Warriors to another undefeated league record..........Portsmouth will definitely be improved with a lot of experience back, spearheaded by 6-1 sophomore Kyre Allison. The Trojans seriously lack size, with no player taller than 6-3. Logan lost all 5 starters from a year ago, but with the Fisher kid in the middle the Chieftains will tough to deal with in the paint. Jackson and Gallia Academy have struggled in league play the last several years, and that may continue in 2013-2014.

[Logangrad]

True, Logan lost THREE starters as the other quit mid season but Cottrill started many games and Cox, Kost saw varsity mins but it will be a challenge getting other kids ready for the speed of the varsity game. Little will be a great addition and if Cole Barron plays with Cox you have a nice backcourt and good depth. The front court will be inexperienced for sure and really nobody has seen the Fisher play in ohio since his freshman year and that was brief. I like Gabe Smith and his upside and Evan DeLong could be a solid role player for Logan. Will be interesting to see if any new faces come out for the team and what other players will see minutes. Tyler Bell is a blue collar type player and Matt Muntzner could see some minutes at guard

[sportslifelove]

Warren will run away with the league although I do think Hall is overrated by most on this board in general.

[WarriorBlue]

Warren will run away with the league although I do think Hall is overrated by most on this board in general.

Well tell that to the DI schools recruiting him. Cleveland St, Miami of Ohio, Winthrop, Northern Kentucky, Longwood and FL Gulf Coast. Northern Kentucky came last week to a 6:30am workout at Warren HS to see him. A kid doesn't have to go out and score 30 to be a DI athlete. 6'6" Guard that shots the 3 ball well and easily one of the best passers and defenders in SE Ohio make him a DI prospect. Most people have no clue what it takes to play at that level. I remember 4 years ago people saying the same thing about Espy wining F Chase Feiler from Fl Gulf Coast. Now everybody is a "jock rider". I'm sure sportslifelove can be included in this group. Haters always gonna hate.


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[pfloyd]

Warren will run away with the league although I do think Hall is overrated by most on this board in general.

... did you see Michael Hall play at the Schott vs ASVSM in March? both Hall and Reece Patton showed what we can expect night in night out this season - special ballplayers imo

[ez_high]

Hall is definitely a good athlete. The one thing I haven't seen out of him is leadership. With another year under his belt, will be interesting to see how he has evolved.

No one talks about Reece Patton much but I believe he is a key to his team. He can quietly dump 20 on you in a hurry with the mid range jumper. Doesn't have to live up to the all ohio or d1 recruit talk/expectations. A very nice young man also.

Where is it documented that hall has offers from miami ohio, etc? I can't find any forum or website where this is stated. In today's technology age, when someone is being recruited you know it.

[WarriorBlue]

Hall is definitely a good athlete. The one thing I haven't seen out of him is leadership. With another year under his belt, will be interesting to see how he has evolved.

No one talks about Reece Patton much but I believe he is a key to his team. He can quietly dump 20 on you in a hurry with the mid range jumper. Doesn't have to live up to the all ohio or d1 recruit talk/expectations. A very nice young man also.

Where is it documented that hall has offers from miami ohio, etc? I can't find any forum or website where this is stated. In today's technology age, when someone is being recruited you know it.

I agree totally about Patton. At the state tournament he "blew up" and proved he can play with the states elite players. Also agree that he is a wonderful young man. Pretty sure he is gonna be a golfer at the next level.

Leadership, let's see a sophomore on a team with 5 seniors. 2 juniors that were returning 1st and 2nd team All District players. Just when EXACATLY didn't this kid supply leadership. Was it the #1 rated Newark Catholic game when the last 2 min he had the go ahead basket and 2 FT with 5 sec to ice the game. Or was it the game winning basket against Athens during regular season. Oh I got it maybe it was the 3rd quarter of the District Championship game vs Vinton County when he scored 11 points to lift the Warriors after a 26-26 halftime score. That's how good players show leadership. They step up when their number is called. Some kids don't have to CHEERLEAD to be a leader. Leadership happen everyday at practice. In the weight room and during the off season.
As far as Hall's recruitment well I could care less if you believe who is recruiting him. Nobody said he had been exstended offers but was being RECRUITED. I'll dumb it down for you. That's personal letters, phone calls and visits. Hall is rated #10 SF for class of 2015 in Ohio by Triple Double Prospects. He along with Ibi Watson from Athens were chosen to to represent Southern Ohio in the All Star games at the prestigious Buckeye Prep Showcase. A game that featured Ohio State signee AJ Harris.

EHoops
http://www.ehoopsohio.com/2013/10/warre ... g.html?m=1

Triple Double Prospects
http://tripledoubleprospects.com/player ... -rankings/


So believe what you will.

As always

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[Fighting_Scots1]

Hall is as good as advertised ... A great athlete with size and the ability to score in a variety of ways and handle the basketball.

Three things to look for in 2013-14 out of him:
1.) The perimeter "j" is silky smooth --- don't overplay the drive or he will bust it all day
2.) Post Scoring --- this summer he has put in a lot of work developing go to moves in the post - and he works them well
3.) improved leaping ability --- he has really worked to get to where he can play above the rim consistently - I think you'll see a lot of rim rattling dunks this year ... Sure, only two points ... But those jams will electrify the Warrior faithful.

Michael is a solid player ... And his upside over the next two full seasons is tremendous ... He will continue to get major interest from the D1 scouts and offers will begin to flow ... I am assisting with his recruitment and I can tell you that there are a lot of coaches keeping a very close eye on him. They are requesting schedules from high school and AAU seasons and there are several that are very close to taking the next step in the process. He already has 3 or 4 D1 visits lined up in the coming weeks. I would also like to add that he has approximately 25 D2's that are interested.

So, whoever the person was that said he is overrated, I guess you could be right ... Or like I am thinking, you could be WAY OFF AND COMPLETELY WRONG!!! lol

[redskinwitness]

I watched him at the state tournament and against Newark Catholic last year. He is a nice player with the body for college. I agree he will get interest and will play at a nice school. Scots, I know you are really involved with AAU stuff and everything but shouldn't his high school coach be handling his recruitment? People always look with question at kids who are represented by guys who aren't school associated. Not saying you are in it for the wrong reasons but you know how leery people are in those types of situations.

[Fighting_Scots1]

Actually AAU coaches play a HUGE role in the recruiting process. High school coaches have a role in it also. My goal with our program is to consistently work for our kids to get them to tournaments where their talents can be showcased in front of scouts, thus giving them the opportunity to achieve their goals and dreams of a college scholarship opportunity. I have NO hidden agenda with these young men - I work for them and do what I do in order to help them and their best interests. Our program has sent 9 players to college on some type of athletic aid, and I'm working very hard to continue that positive trend. I also coached for six years at the college level and I understand the college recruiting process very well. All these things being said, I know that you are generally speculating, but it offends me that someone would find what I do in any way other than trying to be a resource to local players to get them the skill work and the promotion that they need to make it to the next level. I AM IN IT FOR THE KIDS, period. And I will tell you that I go to bat for different players in our program daily - ask the people in our program - they'll tell you I am "all in" for the kids ... Someone has to be!

[redskinwitness]

I'm not questioning your agenda at all. Just generalizing how most feel when they see that sort of thing. My son hopes to run in college and I hope he has people helping him. I also know that his high school coach will likely help him with that. I think a lot of high school coaches are nervous about AAU programs and their contact with their players during the season. We received a message from our coach last week explaining that our players weren't allowed to compete in anything organized outside of the school after November first for eligibility reasons. Obviously AAU is necessary for kids to get better but they tend to make the OHSAA mad and high school coaches nervous.

[Fighting_Scots1]

Trust is critical between high school coaches and AAU coaches - I'm proud to say that I have a great working relationship with several local coaches who try to send me players each year because they know that we work in practice to build their skills through work with fundamental aspects of the game. Also, I am very familiar with rules - both AAU and OHSAA ... And I do my best to NEVER step on coaches toes - we play in match, April, may, and July ... I give our guys the month of June off so that they can participate with their school teams in camps, leagues, shoot outs, etc. I have schools that seek to send me their best players to work with each summer and it's because our program does things the right way. We're not perfect but we do things the right way and we are in it for the kids.

[WarriorBlue]

I watched him at the state tournament and against Newark Catholic last year. He is a nice player with the body for college. I agree he will get interest and will play at a nice school. Scots, I know you are really involved with AAU stuff and everything but shouldn't his high school coach be handling his recruitment? People always look with question at kids who are represented by guys who aren't school associated. Not saying you are in it for the wrong reasons but you know how leery people are in those types of situations.

Redskinwitness you can't be serious. What people are you talking about and what kids are you referring too. Let me help you with the facts. First and foremost recruiting has changed a lot in the last 20 years. Unless your a nation too 300 player schools just aren't coming to see you play during winter season. It's much easier evualating numerous kids at AAU events. Coaches like Scots are vital to that process. Making sure the kids play in the tournaments that are frequented by college scouts and media. A good HS coach does indeed play a huge role in that process along with the parents, family and yes the AAU coach. I've NEVER seen a recruiting questionaire that didn't want AAU coach info.
The kids at Warren are very lucky to have Blane Maddox as a coach because in this area he really works hard for his players. The sad fact is that is a unique situation. Most HS coaches lack the time or even have the contacts to get your kid a scholarship. I attended a recruiting seminar at the Buckeye Prep Showcase and that was the opening line "YOURE COACH CANT GET YOU A SCHOLORSHIP".
As far as Scots, he works his tail off for area kids. Spends his own $ making sure ANY kid that wants to work at getting better, has that opportunity reguardless of talent level. He treats the kids that are trying to make the JV team the same as he treats those athletes that are going to play at the next level. That's all I needed to see.
Redskinwitness a little advise, go to one of these Showcase events and see the the REAL WORLD!


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[redskinwitness]

Why are you so confrontational? I was asking a question. I'm not claiming to be an expert. I know there are a lot of good people out there who work with the best interest in mind. Relax. I thought the head coach was typically the one who led the way on this. One of my sons teammates has a lot of interest from division two and three colleges from all over. I know that our coach has helped him a lot according to him by sending him to showcase events and getting him on a really good AAU team. I know he has helped get several of our kids,including mine, in AAU programs, and he has sent some of our kids to the person I am conversing with on this topic. There is just a general feeling among many that make people leery of AAU coaches and programs, I was not aware they played such an active role in recruiting.

[WarriorBlue]

Wasn't trying to be confrontational but only being passionate. It's just I know 1st hand that it takes a village to help most kids to reach that dream of college basketball. I've had 3 boys and a younger sister go thru the recruiting process over the last 20 years. I'm learning new stuff all the time because the process is EVER changing. The family or support system, the HS coach, the AAU coach, the principle and the guidemce counselor are ALL important factors in the process. Something like knowing the qualifications for a DI or a DII scholarships is something most HS guidemce counselors never need to know.
Sorry if I came off the wrong way but too many times AAU coaches get blamed for things far outta their control. Since the affiliation with the player is not mandatory, they are the easiest to blame.

As Akways

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