OHSAA Releases enrollment figures today

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My breakdown:
Division I: 627-1364 boys
Division II: 420-626 boys
Division III: 270-419 boys
Division IV: 199-269 boys
Division V: 147-198 boys
Division VI: 105-146 boys
Division VII: 20-104 boys


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thanks for all the info.


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formerfcfan wrote:
RAIDER6309 wrote:So are community students home schooled kids? This seems very stupid that public schools have to add to its enrollment with kids that aren't part of the school system and Catholics don't
Community students are students that attend trade schools, career centers, and STEM schools. It's not that stupid at all, say in a hypothetical situation that you have a D4 from Fairfield County playing a D4 from SE Ohio in week 11 for football. If the D4 team from FairCo is close (lets say <5 males) to the D3/D4 cutoff and has a few kids attending a career center on their roster (but for all intents and purposes according to the FERP-Act... <10 career center student athletes) and draws 50% athletic participation from male students within their district from the career center, then they draw from a number truly higher than the amount of kids in the building. So in reality, this prevents public schools that are able to field programs with a bunch of kids not attending their schools to play at a numerical advantage in terms of playing down when in reality they should be playing up.

This probably won't negatively affect any rural public schools. The schools that this will have a huge impact on will be the schools in Akron public, Cincinnati public, Cleveland public, Columbus public, Dayton public, and Toledo. This system takes the sum of all students within a district attending community/STEM schools and divides it amongst that district's # of public high schools. This is actually a pretty big deal, because Columbus public's 2158 male students attending community schools divided by its 16 high schools that are a part of the OHSAA (they actually have 18 high schools but Cols Alternative and Fort Hayes do not field sports) results in 134 additional boys for each high school. The school that this has a monstrous impact on will be Africentric when it comes to boys D4 basketball. As the boys basketball forum post on this topic says, that would shift them from D4 to D2!

I am pretty sure these include charter school students too.
Worded perfectly, formerfcfan. Thank you for breaking down why each Columbus City school will receive 134 additional boys to their enrollment numbers.


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EagleFan89 wrote:My breakdown:
Division I: 627-1364 boys
Division II: 420-626 boys
Division III: 270-419 boys
Division IV: 199-269 boys
Division V: 147-198 boys
Division VI: 105-146 boys
Division VII: 20-104 boys
Is there any way you can breakdown what you feel basketball divisions will be as well?


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Athens City Buckeye On-Line School for Success
Athens City Electronic Classroom Of Tomorrow
Athens City Insight School of Ohio
Athens City Ohio Connections Academy, Inc
Athens City Ohio Virtual Academy
Athens City Treca Digital Academy
Athens City Virtual Community School Of Ohio

These are the 10 students online schools. Ohsaa is now counting home school kids. im pretty sure they can't play at Athens


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I'm sure Belpre will be ticked to death to drop to DVII.


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RAIDER6309 wrote:Athens City Buckeye On-Line School for Success
Athens City Electronic Classroom Of Tomorrow
Athens City Insight School of Ohio
Athens City Ohio Connections Academy, Inc
Athens City Ohio Virtual Academy
Athens City Treca Digital Academy
Athens City Virtual Community School Of Ohio

These are the 10 students online schools. Ohsaa is now counting home school kids. im pretty sure they can't play at Athens
It'd be a marginal difference for Athens HS anyways. Be glad that this new system is probably going to keep Marion Franklin out of Region 9.


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RAIDER6309 wrote:Athens City Buckeye On-Line School for Success
Athens City Electronic Classroom Of Tomorrow
Athens City Insight School of Ohio
Athens City Ohio Connections Academy, Inc
Athens City Ohio Virtual Academy
Athens City Treca Digital Academy
Athens City Virtual Community School Of Ohio

These are the 10 students online schools. Ohsaa is now counting home school kids. im pretty sure they can't play at Athens
Yes they can play for Athens per new Ohio law, I believe.


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38 lost at Rock Hill tells us a sad story.


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Athens used to have a rule that Home Schoolers had to take 2 classes at Athens City Schools to play---I'm not aware that it has been changed. Maybe it has.


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RAIDER6309 wrote:Athens City Buckeye On-Line School for Success
Athens City Electronic Classroom Of Tomorrow
Athens City Insight School of Ohio
Athens City Ohio Connections Academy, Inc
Athens City Ohio Virtual Academy
Athens City Treca Digital Academy
Athens City Virtual Community School Of Ohio

These are the 10 students online schools. Ohsaa is now counting home school kids. im pretty sure they can't play at Athens
If the home schooled student lives within the district and meets academic requirements then they can play sports within that district and they do not have to take any classes at that high school.


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That is true--according to the State, but individual schools can set their own grade standards (64 as an F for example or F no play). A school would be in its Rights to set its own standards as to attending class to be eligible for extracurriculars.

Before anyone thinks no one would do this---Miller had 64 as an F once up on a time and Athens had the F no play.


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local superstar wrote:38 lost at Rock Hill tells us a sad story.
About what? County schools will continue to decline due to lack of employment opportunities. Look at most of the others in the area. Personally, I think the last enrollment count a few years ago was drastically inflated. Had to justify adding a 7th division.


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Fortdawg wrote:That is true--according to the State, but individual schools can set their own grade standards (64 as an F for example or F no play). A school would be in its Rights to set its own standards as to attending class to be eligible for extracurriculars.

Before anyone thinks no one would do this---Miller had 64 as an F once up on a time and Athens had the F no play.
Just because a student is ineligible at the time of the count doesn't excuse them from being included, does it? Regardless of their eligibility status right now, they could be eligible for winter or spring sports over the next 2 years and they would still need to be a part of the enrollment number.


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local superstar wrote:38 lost at Rock Hill tells us a sad story.
what in the world is going on there. I lived in that district 32 years. are you saying the enrollment is 38 less males. or that they have transferred out.


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Look at the list. Tell me what is consistent within it. Look who it says are losing kids. Look who it says are gaining kids.


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Tri-Valley Conference

Ohio Division: (Boys, Girls)
1. Athens 296, 312
2. Vinton County 274, 227
3. Meigs 212, 200
4. Alexander 176, 174
5. Wellston 174, 156
6. River Valley 169, 168
7. Nelsonville-York 151, 146

Hocking Division:
8. Federal Hocking 108, 105
9. Wahama 106, 107 estimate*
10. Belpre 103, 104
11. Trimble 92, 71
12. Southern 90, 80
13. Miller 83, 65
14. Eastern 79, 92
15. South Gallia 79, 66
16. Waterford 75, 86

*(2013-2016 Classification from WVSSAC in grades 9-12 = 283 total students. Averaged out = 141 boys 142 girls in 4 grades = 106 boys, 107 girls in 3 grades for OHSAA comparable numbers)




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Very happy to see the Portsmouth City Schools get a significant increase in enrollment after many years on the decline. I know the Trojans will be bumped up a division in football and basketball, but that's fine with me.


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NYBuckeye96 wrote:Tri-Valley Conference

Ohio Division: (Boys, Girls)
1. Athens 296, 312
2. Vinton County 274, 227
3. Meigs 212, 200
4. Alexander 176, 174
5. Wellston 174, 156
6. River Valley 169, 168
7. Nelsonville-York 151, 146

Hocking Division:
8. Federal Hocking 108, 105
9. Wahama 106, 107 estimate*
10. Belpre 103, 104
11. Trimble 92, 71
12. Southern 90, 80
13. Miller 83, 65
14. Eastern 79, 92
15. South Gallia 79, 66
16. Waterford 75, 86

*(2013-2016 Classification from WVSSAC in grades 9-12 = 283 total students. Averaged out = 141 boys 142 girls in 4 grades = 106 boys, 107 girls in 3 grades for OHSAA comparable numbers)


Wahama would come in lower than that for two reasons. First, the reason Ohio counts in the upper three grades is to avoid having to count kids who fail 9th grade for athletics that they arent eligible to play. Second, Our junior class is tiny. Only 55 kids total both boys and girls. So I would flip places with Belpre on your list and would say you have it right at that point.


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Ohio counts 9-11, not 10-12, because the current 12th grade class in year one of the two year cycle would only be enrolled in the school for one year.


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