Josh Jenkins Makes Decision

[bigtimehitter]

Josh has alot to look foward to in WV

the defense is great he has a nice back to block for and the big east is finally good enough to be an elite conference

What??? An ELITE CONFERENCE.... yea, I highly doubt that. getting better, but looks good cause of their weak scheduling. But it is improving as a conference.

[Pol pot]

Grad Assistants receive a tution and fee wavier, as well as monthly stipends of a little over a grand a month.

[tubby]

bigtimehitter,

Big East went 32-13 in non-conference games, 3-2 in bowl games.

Big 10 went 35-9 in non-conference games, 3-5 in bowl games.
Non-conference-----
Iowa lost to Western Michigan
Northwestern lost to DUKE (Duke's only win of the year )
Minnesota......need I say more?

I will say that Big 10 had tougher bowl games but as far as non-conference....I dunno about that. What weak scheduling are you talking about? Are you talking about playing MAC schools? Yeah the Big East played MAC teams. But, I looked on espn.com and Big 10 non-conference opponents are probably 80% MAC schools. (just a guess)
So before you go talking about weak scheduling look in the mirror.

[bigtimehitter]

^^^ dude, you gotta be kidding. that is a really nice job of finding all that pointless info on espn. Bottom line is, Big East is weak . And who said anything about Big Ten play? Look at who is in the Big East and tell me that you honestly think it is an elite conference. Rutgers?....Cincinnati?......South Florida?....UConn?.... Oh ok I got it, it must be that dominating Syracuse team that makes it "ELITE". So before you go and try to talk college football, get a what I call, "common sense".

[mister b]

Grad Assistants receive a tution and fee wavier, as well as monthly stipends of a little over a grand a month.

Granted they do receive these but this adds up to basically nothing. Ever try to live on a thousand dollars a month? As I said, you do this for the experience and the chance to add to your resume. You are certainly not a high-priced asst coach by any stretch of the imagination.

[tubby]

hitter,
Who is elite in the Big 10? Minnesota or Northwestern

[Pol pot]

Mister B: What was your point about money to begin with. I simply pointed out that Paul was appointed to a GA position right before Josh declared he was going to WVU. Never brought money into the picture. Then you state they don't get paid, which they do, and then you change your line again. Yes, I have lived on a GA stipend, and I would take that over being a "normal" student and borrowing money any day!

[mister b]

Pol Pot...

Your post implies that the only reason he chose WVU was because his brother got a Grad Asst job the day before.

WVU had 7 grad asst assigned to the football team this year and 10 the year before.

My point is this on money, having a tution and fee waiver with a monthly stipend is not a lot of money in ones pocket. Most people think they are being paid to do nothing when in fact they are working hard at continuing their education and working a lot of hours in the athletic department. It is not a free or easy ride by any means.

[abuck76]

stipend and get to help with football...or slop mashed potatoes on a tray for extra money....hhmmmmmm I'd take being a grad asst. any day

[Pol pot]

I've known many a grad assistant that after two years has little academic credit. And the NCAA has limits on the number of Graduate Assistant Coaches that a program can have, and that number is less than seven. Key word here is "Coaches".

Please refer to NCAA Bylaw 11.7.2. where it clearly states a program can have two graduate assistant coaches.

Sorry, if you thought I was saying Jenkins went there because of his brother, I am sure there were other decisions, but I know in talking with Paul it didn't hurt.

[hdfatboy]

^^^ dude, you gotta be kidding. that is a really nice job of finding all that pointless info on espn. Bottom line is, Big East is weak . And who said anything about Big Ten play? Look at who is in the Big East and tell me that you honestly think it is an elite conference. Rutgers?....Cincinnati?......South Florida?....UConn?.... Oh ok I got it, it must be that dominating Syracuse team that makes it "ELITE". So before you go and try to talk college football, get a what I call, "common sense".

Dude, although I wouldn't argue that the Big East is elite (it hasn't existed in its current form long enough to be elite regardless of its record) - but the Big East isn't weak...ask Auburn, Oklahoma, Oregon State...all elite conference teams that lost to Big East teams this year. Given the parity in college football, particularly, among most of the BCS conferences calling any one of them weak doesn't make much sense. Heck, even most moron sports writers have given up the whole weak Big East argument.

[bigtimehitter]

^^^ dude, you gotta be kidding. that is a really nice job of finding all that pointless info on espn. Bottom line is, Big East is weak . And who said anything about Big Ten play? Look at who is in the Big East and tell me that you honestly think it is an elite conference. Rutgers?....Cincinnati?......South Florida?....UConn?.... Oh ok I got it, it must be that dominating Syracuse team that makes it "ELITE". So before you go and try to talk college football, get a what I call, "common sense".

Dude, although I wouldn't argue that the Big East is elite (it hasn't existed in its current form long enough to be elite regardless of its record) - but the Big East isn't weak...ask Auburn, Oklahoma, Oregon State...all elite conference teams that lost to Big East teams this year. Given the parity in college football, particularly, among most of the BCS conferences calling any one of them weak doesn't make much sense. Heck, even most moron sports writers have given up the whole weak Big East argument.

DUDE, first off, I never said it was weak. I said it wasn't elite. The only true elite CONFERENCE in my opinion, is the SEC. Even though I hate almost all SEC schools. Every confernce has their strengths and their weakneses. Big Ten has has th sub-par teams, as does the Big East and every other conference.

And back to Tubby, no the elite teams would OSU an UM. And if you try to argue that those two teams are elite then you shouldn't even talk college football.
Big East doesn't have elite teams, Although West Virginia is a very solid team. So nobody rag on me and so I am hatin on WVU, especially you hdfatboy, I like the Mountaineers.

[hdfatboy]

^^^ dude, you gotta be kidding. that is a really nice job of finding all that pointless info on espn. Bottom line is, Big East is weak . And who said anything about Big Ten play? Look at who is in the Big East and tell me that you honestly think it is an elite conference. Rutgers?....Cincinnati?......South Florida?....UConn?.... Oh ok I got it, it must be that dominating Syracuse team that makes it "ELITE". So before you go and try to talk college football, get a what I call, "common sense".

Dude, although I wouldn't argue that the Big East is elite (it hasn't existed in its current form long enough to be elite regardless of its record) - but the Big East isn't weak...ask Auburn, Oklahoma, Oregon State...all elite conference teams that lost to Big East teams this year. Given the parity in college football, particularly, among most of the BCS conferences calling any one of them weak doesn't make much sense. Heck, even most moron sports writers have given up the whole weak Big East argument.

DUDE, first off, I never said it was weak. I said it wasn't elite. The only true elite CONFERENCE in my opinion, is the SEC. Even though I hate almost all SEC schools. Every confernce has their strengths and their weakneses. Big Ten has has th sub-par teams, as does the Big East and every other conference.

And back to Tubby, no the elite teams would OSU an UM. And if you try to argue that those two teams are elite then you shouldn't even talk college football.
Big East doesn't have elite teams, Although West Virginia is a very solid team. So nobody rag on me and so I am hatin on WVU, especially you hdfatboy, I like the Mountaineers.

Read your own quote - your exact words were "Bottom line, Big East is weak". I agree with you that the Big East isn't an elite conference.

[tubby]

As much as I hate to say it, osu is elite. They've proven themselves they can get to the NC. But who else in the big 10 would you consider elite? Michigan has had some down years in the last few years. They were this years biggest disappointment. You can't be elite and lose to Appy St.
WVU is close to being an elite team. What else do they have to do to earn respect? They've been near the top the last 3 or 4 years. They beat a heavily favored Georgia team in 06, and beat a heavily favored Oklahoma team this year.

Maybe our defintions of elite are different.

[BigMcCauley55]

The big east is made fun of all year then when it comes to bowl games they are a better conference

WVU beating Oklahoma are you kidding me i had oklahoma by a lot

the big east is no joke when it comes to big games and i mean i love the big ten but it seems that the big ten cant win big ones or barely beats teams that should have destroyed and that is not a shot at osu what so ever because michigan has blown ones too like the nebraska game

Purdue barely beating central michigan was a joke

The big east is on the rise and it about time people stop making fun of that confrence

[bigtimehitter]

^^^ dude, you gotta be kidding. that is a really nice job of finding all that pointless info on espn. Bottom line is, Big East is weak . And who said anything about Big Ten play? Look at who is in the Big East and tell me that you honestly think it is an elite conference. Rutgers?....Cincinnati?......South Florida?....UConn?.... Oh ok I got it, it must be that dominating Syracuse team that makes it "ELITE". So before you go and try to talk college football, get a what I call, "common sense".

Dude, although I wouldn't argue that the Big East is elite (it hasn't existed in its current form long enough to be elite regardless of its record) - but the Big East isn't weak...ask Auburn, Oklahoma, Oregon State...all elite conference teams that lost to Big East teams this year. Given the parity in college football, particularly, among most of the BCS conferences calling any one of them weak doesn't make much sense. Heck, even most moron sports writers have given up the whole weak Big East argument.

DUDE, first off, I never said it was weak. I said it wasn't elite. The only true elite CONFERENCE in my opinion, is the SEC. Even though I hate almost all SEC schools. Every confernce has their strengths and their weakneses. Big Ten has has th sub-par teams, as does the Big East and every other conference.

And back to Tubby, no the elite teams would OSU an UM. And if you try to argue that those two teams are elite then you shouldn't even talk college football.
Big East doesn't have elite teams, Although West Virginia is a very solid team. So nobody rag on me and so I am hatin on WVU, especially you hdfatboy, I like the Mountaineers.

Read your own quote - your exact words were "Bottom line, Big East is weak". I agree with you that the Big East isn't an elite conference.

I did, came out wrong, I don't think that they are weak, but yes far from elite.

[hdfatboy]

No problem - I guess a good question is "what makes a team elite?".

I think that you can't claim you are elite without sustained success over decades of time. A team might be an elite team in a season...but that doesn't make them an elite program. The same is true of a conference.

I think there are very, very few elite programs and conferences. I also think that elite teams and conferences are starting to disappear with the increased parity in college football. If things continue the way they have been going in the last decade we'll eventually see very little difference between the BCS conferences as they stand now....and the top teams in each BCS conference will be relatively equal.

Where the SEC is at an advantage right now is that they have a greater proportion of "elite" or "almost elite" programs - Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Florida, Alabama...and the worst of their conference tends to be about equal to the middle of a number of other conferences. But I think the rest of the major conferences are slowly catching up to them. For example, the Big East's top half of the conference could be alright in the SEC (might not win it, but would be competitive)....and the Big East is still a growing conference with each school putting a lot of money into it athletic programs. The elite programs are already there with respect to facilities and coaching....the catching-up schools are getting there.

[bigtimehitter]

^^^ very true.