2017 Cleveland Browns

[dazed&confused]

The talk in Cleveland is Hue is feeling heat. I hope not. He may not be the answer but neither is pulling the plug on every new coach in 1-2 years

[farmer]

Hogan will start at QB this week.
The hot seat for HUE is a joke. Just look at all the players let go from the end of last year til when the season started. Going young then look at the QB depth chart. Kiser I do not think will be more than a QB with potential. Not being able to put it together on the field. Hogan is not perfect but is way better on the field. Ownership should be forced to get out for being so bad leadership over a set number of years. When Joe Thomas is done playing maybe he can be like Ozzie Newsome and be productive in running the team. Not in moving the team out of Cleveland.

[cbolt]

Not surprising. He is feeling the heat and knows his job on the line so its time to play who gives him the best chance to win. The mistake he made was starting him right of the bat,should have let Hogan start out esp. since he had a good preseason and work in Kizer later.

[dazed&confused]

The NFL stands for not-for-long. You need results and other rookies lately have produced or at least shown growth. Kizer has regressed. It's harsh but that's the way it is. What have you done for me lately. A couple of long heaves to win games in the pre-season doesn't buy longevity. We Browns fans have heard lots of optimism from QBs the last 18 years. I'm tired; put up or shut up.

[cbolt]

Agree how many times have QBS looked good as soon as they come in and shortly after they fall flat on their face. Hogan will probably be the same way after defenses get used to him. McCown should have been the starter this year if the front office could manage correctly. He was the one exception also Hoyer who were more than a flash in the pan. They might not have won Super Bowls but put a decent line in front of them and they could at least manufacture some wins, It's a shame.

[farmer]

The backup QB's can come in for short times and do well over a few games. Hogan didn't do bad when he came in at the end of the year for the Browns. Then Kiser shows he is not ready by liking a tweet about the Browns being a bad organization. Just goes to show Kiser made a bad choice just like he does on some reads on the field.

[C-Bolt]

Looks like his old college coach was right after all! Wasn't ready for the pros yet!

[dazed&confused]

Not ready to go there yet but he needs to grow and develop
1) progressive reads
2) touch passes

[dazed&confused]

Oh and per the current regime, Carson Wentz is not a franchise QB

[cbolt]

Not even in the top twenty! As my buddy trenchfoot would say " fire em all, fire everyone of them"

[dazed&confused]

Well will it be Hogan's Heroes or Kevin Can Wait?

[dazed&confused]

Didn't think it could get worse. I was wrong

[dazed&confused]

Hey let's reinstate Gordon and bring back Manziel. It'd be a dumpster fire but it would be an entertaining dumpster fire.

[cbolt]

Well will it be Hogan's Heroes or Kevin Can Wait?

He needs to go back to acting after today. Only good thing about it is it might give Kizer some of his confidence back

[farmer]

The announcer James Lofton called a few times the WR's not making the correct routes. Which led to 2 of Hogans Int's. Hard for any QB to have success with the group of WR's not being in the right place.
I do not understand Peppers being such a great returner catching the ball on a kickoff 3 yards in the endzone then taking a knee. The Browns need to score on defense and special teams. Peppers did show why teams passed on him on defense in the draft.

[dazed&confused]

NBC pregame just reported Jimmy is looking to make front office changes. Maybe he needs to fire the owner

[smurray]

I’m sick of the Browns - they will never change.

[farmer]

I know I haven't been called yet on the job.
Keep changing people in the front office then goes to the Head Coach. Just musical chairs going on where they take all the chairs and start the music over. Hell get Kevin Cosner he didn't do bad in the movie.

[farmer]

Read an article online that One person could save the Browns former Washington Redskin GM Scot McGloughan. Touting what he done at Washington. As well as San Fran with Harbaugh and Seattle with Carroll. Sure left out where he was fired for being an Alcoholic after the draft with Washington. Where he was put on leave before and during the draft. Just what the Browns need a babysitter for management. Not quite who I would pick for the job.

[dazed&confused]

Lincoln on reports General Grant was a drunk...."Tell me what brand of whiskey Grant drinks and I will send a barrel of it to my other generals"