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Re: FAC Expansion?
The FAC is just fine as is. They need a few seasons under their belts to establish administration, competition, and rivalry within the new conference before looking to expand.
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Re: FAC Expansion?
I make the drive to Greenfield once a week. Logan would not be perfect for the FAC.
Other than Jackson and Chillicothe. No other school would want the drive to Logan.
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Re: FAC Expansion?
Logan to Greenfield is about an hour and a half on a good day. Now imagine those trips on a Thursday during basketball season with crappy weather.Orange and Brown wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:58 pmI make the drive to Greenfield once a week. Logan would not be perfect for the FAC.
Other than Jackson and Chillicothe. No other school would want the drive to Logan.
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Re: FAC Expansion?
Think this will be little tougher task honestly, I mean you're talking a 6 team league that already stretches 4 counties. Circleville would be one of my first thoughts and not that they'd leave the SVC but their location and school size Unioto would be another that would fit within the parameters of what they are looking for. I'm afraid though that from an outside perspective you look at a league that has Jackson and Chillicothe in it and when it comes to football your going to find yourself always looking at playing for 3rd place.
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At one point in time Miami Trace would of dominated this league in football along with Washington Court House but that was awhile ago. A school that fits into this league will be tough. Right now Chillicothe is the 800 pound gorilla like Athens is in the TVC Ohio.
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I think we should take the high road on this idea. Let's invite Vinton County, unioto, logan, logan elm, circleville, and warren. Then let's make two divisors aligned g eographically. We could h a ndle expansion the way the tvc should have except for their bullcrap politics.
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Unioto, Circleville, Logan Elm.
But its never going to happen.
Two divisions geographically is the only way i see expansion working
But its never going to happen.
Two divisions geographically is the only way i see expansion working
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Yeah I have to agree doing 2 divisions and maybe jumping to 10 teams 5 per division could be a good way to go with the drives these schools have. Leagues have tendencies not to want to do that though, look at the SVC and playing a 7 game league schedule add 2 teams and split into 2 divisions already. If teams want to schedule cross division games as a non-league game then go for it makes it easier to schedule for those weeks but if they don't they don't. Jackson is borderline division 3/4 from what I'm hearing and Chillicothe being division 2 and with the number of kids I just don't see them pulling in teams very local. Love the idea of getting few more teams and splitting into divisions based on location. Then again part of me wonders if schools did that why not just start their own league and not worry about the Chillicothe and Jackson football monster.CavalierAlum05 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:41 pm Unioto, Circleville, Logan Elm.
But its never going to happen.
Two divisions geographically is the only way i see expansion working
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Circleville and Logan Elm would be perfect
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Re: FAC Expansion?
I think distance would be the number one issue for some schools. Regarding Chillicothe and Jackson dominating football, that is true, but you have that in every league. Every league has 2-3 schools that are usually the only schools that win the league in football except for a rare year when another team may win it.
TVC OHIO - Nelsonville-York or Athens
TVC HOCKING - Trimble, Waterford or Wahama
SOC II - Wheelersburg or West
Etc, etc, etc. It's a rare year when one of those teams doesn't win their league in football.
TVC OHIO - Nelsonville-York or Athens
TVC HOCKING - Trimble, Waterford or Wahama
SOC II - Wheelersburg or West
Etc, etc, etc. It's a rare year when one of those teams doesn't win their league in football.
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Difference is those are existing leagues that you are talking about, the discussion is expansion and teams who may fit. If you are in maybe not a higher profile league but one in which you compete year in and year out and have a chance to win on any given year, do you opt to leave that league and go into one where you know on most years you're looking at placing 3rd and for me the answer is yes that is something an AD would look at. Distance and how they would line things up obviously is #1 but sorry being competitive in a league year in and year out is going to outweigh going into a league where you're looking at 2 losses in most years each year before the season even starts.NYBuckeye96 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:59 pm I think distance would be the number one issue for some schools. Regarding Chillicothe and Jackson dominating football, that is true, but you have that in every league. Every league has 2-3 schools that are usually the only schools that win the league in football except for a rare year when another team may win it.
TVC OHIO - Nelsonville-York or Athens
TVC HOCKING - Trimble, Waterford or Wahama
SOC II - Wheelersburg or West
Etc, etc, etc. It's a rare year when one of those teams doesn't win their league in football.
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Re: FAC Expansion?
This is where Leagues get themselves into trouble. It's fine to expand but don't get greedy. If a Logan or even a Warren Local comes into play then another school that is already in will eventually drop out. If I am the FAC then I would look at only a few. Unioto, Zane Trace, Circleville, and even Waverly. Yes Waverly. Outside of this it becomes an issue on distance. As has been sung before, Don't go Chasing Waterfalls, Stick to the Rivers and the Streams (I prefer Creeks around here) that you are use too. LOL
Re: FAC Expansion?
Unioto is an obvious school that would be a good fit for the FAC. Next I would say Circleville and Logan Elm. Circleville and Logan Elm I do not think will think of leaving the Mid State League until the new South Columbus League forms that will take Teays Valley and Hamilton Twp out of the Mid State League- at that point I believe Circleville and Logan Elm would jump at joining the FAC. Unioto needs to see long term that FAC is a good fit athletic wise for the school. I also think that it would help with Unioto wanting to upgrade their athletic facilities. Currently in the SVC Unioto has some of the better athletic facilities. In the FAC the athletic facilities at Unioto would be considered as just average.
Waverly has been batted around and think Waverly will be very competitive in the FAC however they seem to content with the SOC.
Looking 5 years in the future it would great to have Unioto, Circleville, Logan Elm and Waverly in the FAC then their could be 2 Divisions: West being Hillsboro, Greenfield, Washington CH, Miami Trace and Unioto and East being Circleville, Logan Elm, Chillicothe, Jackson and Waverly.
Waverly has been batted around and think Waverly will be very competitive in the FAC however they seem to content with the SOC.
Looking 5 years in the future it would great to have Unioto, Circleville, Logan Elm and Waverly in the FAC then their could be 2 Divisions: West being Hillsboro, Greenfield, Washington CH, Miami Trace and Unioto and East being Circleville, Logan Elm, Chillicothe, Jackson and Waverly.
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Re: FAC Expansion?
If you like your teams high school football why would anyone want to join the FAC? Like someone said on here football in the FAC belongs to Chillicothe and Jackson and everyone else is playing for third.
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Is that why Logan doesn't want in?noreply66 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:48 pm If you like your teams high school football why would anyone want to join the FAC? Like someone said on here football in the FAC belongs to Chillicothe and Jackson and everyone else is playing for third.