2018 Frontier Athletic Conference

[Omega]

What about Waverly?

The SVC would make a better home for the Tigers than either the FAC or SOC2. Travel time and costs in this day and age are still big factors in determining league affiliations..

[bman]

Unioto is an obvious school that would be a good fit for the FAC. Next I would say Circleville and Logan Elm. Circleville and Logan Elm I do not think will think of leaving the Mid State League until the new South Columbus League forms that will take Teays Valley and Hamilton Twp out of the Mid State League- at that point I believe Circleville and Logan Elm would jump at joining the FAC. Unioto needs to see long term that FAC is a good fit athletic wise for the school. I also think that it would help with Unioto wanting to upgrade their athletic facilities. Currently in the SVC Unioto has some of the better athletic facilities. In the FAC the athletic facilities at Unioto would be considered as just average.
Waverly has been batted around and think Waverly will be very competitive in the FAC however they seem to content with the SOC.
Looking 5 years in the future it would great to have Unioto, Circleville, Logan Elm and Waverly in the FAC then their could be 2 Divisions: East being Hillsboro, Greenfield, Washington CH, Miami Trace and Unioto and West being Circleville, Logan Elm, Chillicothe, Jackson and Waverly.

Hamilton Township is not leaving the MSL to go to the proposed new league. And Circleville and Logan Elm are not going to the FAC.

If Teays Valley leaves the MSL to join the new league, which I think will happen, the Buckeye will either add another school or stay at seven and have cross-division play with the Ohio Division.

[noreply66]

Unioto is an obvious school that would be a good fit for the FAC. Next I would say Circleville and Logan Elm. Circleville and Logan Elm I do not think will think of leaving the Mid State League until the new South Columbus League forms that will take Teays Valley and Hamilton Twp out of the Mid State League- at that point I believe Circleville and Logan Elm would jump at joining the FAC. Unioto needs to see long term that FAC is a good fit athletic wise for the school. I also think that it would help with Unioto wanting to upgrade their athletic facilities. Currently in the SVC Unioto has some of the better athletic facilities. In the FAC the athletic facilities at Unioto would be considered as just average.
Waverly has been batted around and think Waverly will be very competitive in the FAC however they seem to content with the SOC.
Looking 5 years in the future it would great to have Unioto, Circleville, Logan Elm and Waverly in the FAC then their could be 2 Divisions: East being Hillsboro, Greenfield, Washington CH, Miami Trace and Unioto and West being Circleville, Logan Elm, Chillicothe, Jackson and Waverly.

Why East schools in the West division and West schools in the East division?

[king kong]

1. Waverly wants out of the SOC and into the SVC, if they can’t compete being the largest school in the SOC II, why would they leave playing Burg and have to play Chilli and Jackson! Lol

2. Same for Unioto, unless the SVC boots them out, those wusses aren’t going anywhere! Most schools in the SVC struggle to get numbers for all sports, but struggle with golf, soccer, wrestling, track etc. Unioto dominates most sports, and it is only getting harder for a PV or Huntington to compete.

[countywide35]

Very interesting to see and read all the possible scenarios and future of the FAC. The big thing I take away from this thread......these are the signs of stability for the league.....

[art_vandelay]

Waverly and Unioto make the most sense to me, but like others have said, doubtful either one wants to deal with playing Jackson and Chillicothe on a yearly basis in football (or Chillicothe twice/year in basketball).*

[Sid Farkus]

1. Waverly wants out of the SOC and into the SVC, if they can’t compete being the largest school in the SOC II, why would they leave playing Burg and have to play Chilli and Jackson! Lol

2. Same for Unioto, unless the SVC boots them out, those wusses aren’t going anywhere! Most schools in the SVC struggle to get numbers for all sports, but struggle with golf, soccer, wrestling, track etc. Unioto dominates most sports, and it is only getting harder for a PV or Huntington to compete.

I have to agree with this. Unioto is too big of wusses to join a league that is filled with schools the same size as them.

[Rolltanks]

Union is the same size as Zane trace westfall. All schools are d4. Unioto doesn’t have a community to pull kids from. The reason they are so close to d3 football is because of competitive balance. There are a lot of ppl that don’t want to go to Chillicothe. Do they go to Unioto. Sometimes the athletic teams have slot of open enrollment kids sometimes they don’t. It hurts us as much as it is fair depending on the year. Funny that we get bashed. I think a lot of svc teams would push for a big and little svc split. I don’t see us going to the fac unless we move to d3 football and stay there consistently. We still haven’t won the league in football since a tie in 98 so idk why ppl are bashing us. Even basketball has only recently dominated which will likely end after this year.

[Raider6309]

1. Waverly wants out of the SOC and into the SVC, if they can’t compete being the largest school in the SOC II, why would they leave playing Burg and have to play Chilli and Jackson! Lol

2. Same for Unioto, unless the SVC boots them out, those wusses aren’t going anywhere! Most schools in the SVC struggle to get numbers for all sports, but struggle with golf, soccer, wrestling, track etc. Unioto dominates most sports, and it is only getting harder for a PV or Huntington to compete.

I have to agree with this. Unioto is too big of wusses to join a league that is filled with schools the same size as them.

I’m guessing Unioto pounds your school every year

[noreply66]

If Unioto leaves it should be the MSL. FAC wants DII teams. If they go after DIII teams it show they are afraid of DI.

[greygoose]

Waverly in no way shape or form would join the FAC, they dropped Jackson a few years back because of how the series had turned over the last several years prior to dropping them. It was stated Waverly doesn't gain anything by playing Jackson until they get back to form year in and year out, now that they're getting there it'll be interesting to see if that series is picked back up. All these years of Waverly and Chillicothe being but 15 min. apart and they haven't played?? Yeah the FAC is not a place that Waverly would ever apply for. I've been hearing everyone on here say Waverly is looking into the SVC but I haven't heard anyone from Waverly say it however my guess would be because of travel for Waverly. Waverly last I heard was in pretty bad shape financially so cutting down on drive times and limiting out of league games to fill would be one reason I think Waverly would want SVC.

[greygoose]

My guess is until the FAC is proven to hold together for a period of time given the drive time of some of these teams, I just don't see anyone joining unless they are in a league that falls apart.

[noreply66]

Not putting Chillicothe down, but look at their record over the last 20 years and how many leagues they have been in.

[CavalierAlum05]

Not putting Chillicothe down, but look at their record over the last 20 years and how many leagues they have been in.

We are one of the largest schools around. We have to travel great distances to find schools that are our size or larger. We have always been in a hard spot.

[Truth&fiction]

The FAC is a very FRAGILE league . Time will tell whether it can stay together. We are not living in the 50s and 60s where leagues were more stable . If some teams can not compete with others they will look for a better fit . Adding more schools if possible in the first five years might be a smart move .

[greygoose]

The FAC is a very FRAGILE league . Time will tell whether it can stay together. We are not living in the 50s and 60s where leagues were more stable . If some teams can not compete with others they will look for a better fit . Adding more schools if possible in the first five years might be a smart move .

Yeah maybe good for the league but being that FRAGILE why would teams jump in?? Just saying a team leaves a league they were established in for a new league where travel is an issue. Sorry just don't really see any teams jumping in until the league can prove it can hold together. As someone stated look at how many leagues Chillicothe has been in because of size, Jackson hasn't been able to stay in a league that held together for sometime now. Hillsboro, I can see leaving when the league with the adams county team starts up. McClain is a question mark because how long do they want to be a bottom feeder in that league??

[se-alum]

Unioto is an obvious school that would be a good fit for the FAC. Next I would say Circleville and Logan Elm. Circleville and Logan Elm I do not think will think of leaving the Mid State League until the new South Columbus League forms that will take Teays Valley and Hamilton Twp out of the Mid State League- at that point I believe Circleville and Logan Elm would jump at joining the FAC. Unioto needs to see long term that FAC is a good fit athletic wise for the school. I also think that it would help with Unioto wanting to upgrade their athletic facilities. Currently in the SVC Unioto has some of the better athletic facilities. In the FAC the athletic facilities at Unioto would be considered as just average.
Waverly has been batted around and think Waverly will be very competitive in the FAC however they seem to content with the SOC.
Looking 5 years in the future it would great to have Unioto, Circleville, Logan Elm and Waverly in the FAC then their could be 2 Divisions: West being Hillsboro, Greenfield, Washington CH, Miami Trace and Unioto and East being Circleville, Logan Elm, Chillicothe, Jackson and Waverly.

Don't see what you're talking about with Unioto's athletic facilities. They have a decent football facility, their gym is equal to or worse than most in the SVC. Spring sports facilities are average also.

[se-alum]

Union is the same size as Zane trace westfall. All schools are d4. Unioto doesn’t have a community to pull kids from. The reason they are so close to d3 football is because of competitive balance. There are a lot of ppl that don’t want to go to Chillicothe. Do they go to Unioto. Sometimes the athletic teams have slot of open enrollment kids sometimes they don’t. It hurts us as much as it is fair depending on the year. Funny that we get bashed. I think a lot of svc teams would push for a big and little svc split. I don’t see us going to the fac unless we move to d3 football and stay there consistently. We still haven’t won the league in football since a tie in 98 so idk why ppl are bashing us. Even basketball has only recently dominated which will likely end after this year.

Unioto's overall size(K-12) is significantly larger than other SVC school. The gap between the number of high school students at UHS as opposed to other SVC schools is only going to widen as the elementary and Jr. High kids move into high school.

[Abe Froman]

Outside perspective of maybe someone the FAC should be wooing would be a team I haven't yet seen mentioned, and that is Vinton County.

Does it really make a difference to them if they get beat by Athens every year or Chillicothe every year, and actually it seems they have gotten more competitive as of late in football almost knocking off NY so maybe at some point they even compete in the football. But basketball wise I think the FAC would be a better league maybe for Vinton County and that is there go to sport right now.

Then you could try and grab someone of the south end of the MSL, shoot for a Logan Elm and Circleville.

For the FAC to get Waverly and Unioto somehow it would need to group divisions where they are not playing Chilly and Jackson. If you could get as an example McClain, Hillsboro, Waverly and Unioto on one side in football and Chilly, Trace, WCH, VC and Jackson on the other side.

Maybe some of the SVC teams in a "small division" with McClain and then VC and LE in a "big division" with the other FAC.

I agree with one of the posters above, Hillsboro is likely not to last.

Of course none of this will ever happen because there is no reason for the SVC to do that and there is no reason for VC to leave the TVC.

But it is January and a Saturday so something to BS about.

[bman]

Schools like Unioto and Athens should be in a larger league due to their size, but have been largely content to use their numbers advantage to dominate especially in the secondary sports. It's how Unioto has won the SVC banner for years.

Athens should have never left the SEOAL and Unioto should either be in the SCOL/now FAC or the MSL.