The State of the Marshall Football Program

[Peake]

Acutally you need to try again, and by "uninformed" what do you mean, because i am willing to put my info up against your any day of the week. Nate Cadogan (PSU verbal) and John Prior (FSU verbal) were both Marshall prospects in that games. At one point the big NG (Tony ?) for Ironton was also considered a prospect by Marshall. So to say that he was at the game just because, would to me seem a little naive.

I have seen a lot of football games in the past 3-4 years in both Ohio and WV, and I can tell you that I have only seen MS at a HHS vs. Midland game (prospects- Bowers, Crawford, and Andrew Brewer were all on the field) and a Parkersburg game (Jenkins of course).

I will put it this way, I am not blaming him for seeing prospects when he can because there are so few in this area, but to attend 1 or 2 games a year where there isn't a prospect would go a long way.

[Mouth's Better Half]

I have seen him at high school F-ball games in OH and WV this season. He also sends assistants and that is part of their responsibilities too. You can't speak for him( Snyder) unless you follow him around 24/7 .

[Peake]

Ok, this all doesn't matter and it is going way off course. If he weren't connected to the Ironton and OSU community, no one would care if he was here or not.

[85inside]

If you are waiting on Snyder to attend Huntington High football games, dream on. Who would he be going to see. I was calling the poster an "Peake uninformed poster" because he was relying on your post to make a point. i point I disproved. i personally saw him at two local high school games.
If Snyder is at local games, they arent going to win many games anyway. Michael lamb would be a good fit in huntington. By the looks of things he could help the basketball team and football. by the way, you guys calling for Jones' head yet?

[marshallman]

Look, I'm willing to give him 1 more year for the benefit of all doubt. New DC, OC, 4 recruiting classes belonging to him and Freshman starting QB. But, if he doesn't go 7-5 at least then he needs to go!

[Mouth's Better Half]

If he weren't connected to the Ironton and OSU community, no one would care if he was here or not.
I think that is a good thing. We do care and he cares about these communities too. Because he has lived here. Many Coaches good or bad come in and could care less about the community at MU except while they are coaching there and the surrounding ones. You guys are rough. But I can't wait for next year. I have never enjoyed the Marshall games like I have while he has been there and I have been going since the 1970's.

[Peake]

85,

You didn't disprove anything. I will say it again, I am willing to bet he was there because of the prospects that played for those teams, not the communities. Read my posts so I don't have to repeat myself.

MBH,

That is wonderful that people take pride in their communities, but I am willing to say if any head coach came in and lost more then they won and didn't show improvement in any of our communities, they would be fired, especially in Ironton. It is wonderful that you love going to MU games now more than ever, but I garuntee you that you are in the minority of MU fans. I am beating a dead horse here, because you are going to think one way and myself another, but I know how the business of college athletics work, and I can tell you if he weren't the hometown kid---he would be fired!

[85inside]

No, I wont reread your post. wasnt commenting on your post. I was commenting on another post that referenced you. That post simply said, Snyder did not attend high school games. That post did not mention for what reasons Snyder did attend the games. (the only person who really knows that would be Snyder)
Again, the post i referred to was disproven. Snyder attends games. I dont know if he bought a hot dog and popcorn, i dont know if he bought a raffle ticket. i do know that he attended games.

[Peake]

I think you need to take into context why he was at the game compared to the comment that was made. It isn't as black and white as you are trying to make it. Of course he will be at some games, I bet it has much more to do with recruiting than investing in the communities.

[hdfatboy]

I think you need to take into context why he was at the game compared to the comment that was made. It isn't as black and white as you are trying to make it. Of course he will be at some games, I bet it has much more to do with recruiting than investing in the communities.

Out of curiousity, is it common for a major college football coach to go to community high school football games?

WVU gets a number of players from the two high schools located in Morgantown (mostly walk-ons) and in 14 years I don't recall ever having seen the head coach at these games. I did see Bill Stewart at a middle school game this year - to watch his son play.

It seems like an unfair expectation that a coach - particularly a struggling one - would have time to go to HS games.

[ballparent]

And even if they go to games who's place is it to determine whether they are there for recruiting or the purpose of investing in the communities? And couldn't they both serve the same purpose? I do know that Coach Snyder has attended many functions in our community, his reasons for being there at times where obvious planned events for the college, at other times he was simply living his life, like going to church with his family. He's a young man with busy, active young girls, and I'm sure a lot of his free time is spent being a good father and attending their events, which also happen to be community events whether we all get to see them or not.
The decision of a fan to support a coach is clearly a personal one. A lot of Buckeyes fans, even though Tressel has an outstanding record with OSU will still grumble that he can't win "the big ones" and will call for his head after a loss.
Winning records (or even improving records) are great, no one is disagreeing with that, but some fans take a lot of other things into consideration on whether to continue their support of a specific coach.

[Mouth's Better Half]

Good post ballparent. I agree.

[Peake]

my quote

I am beating a dead horse here, because you are going to think one way and myself another

This is going nowhere.

If I am not mistaken I never really talked about high school games aside from Jersa at HS Basketball games. I was talking about Pruett and players at youth league games and functions.

If a High School Football Coach is at a High School game, I am willing to bet 99 times out of 100 it is for recruiting purposes. I am willing to say that recruiting and reaching out to a community are two seperate things. Sorry, I've been recruited myself, been around it, and they are nowhere close to the same thing nor do they serve the same purpose.

You support a coach because of the relationship you have with him and with Ironton, I can say that you are a much more loyal person than most, but his job is to win games and he has not done that. Being a good anything other than coach has not saved any coach who has had his type of success.

I will quite responding because this thread is going nowhere. Choose to agree or disagree, but it has been 4 years without improvement, and anywhere else in America you are fired.

[Mouth's Better Half]

I guess we are fortunate that you are not his boss then. Go HERD!

[Peake]

Yes you are correct.

Who is we though? You mean you?

[ballparent]

Yes you are correct.

Who is we though? You mean you?

Are you kidding me.... geez....

[85inside]

I wonder how much money, say rich Rodriguez invested in the local high school community this season? You think after the Toledo game, ol RR made it to too many Annarbor High school football games? Of course, he is your darling and he isn't open to criticism. Even at 3-9.

[Peake]

RR has a history of winning, something Snyder hasn't; he needs people in his corner.

I know that RR has made a great investment in the life of Brock Mealer, should read his story sometime.

Michigan is Michigan, Marshall is Marshall.

RR actually did hold a 3 day clinic for all high school coaches in Michigan to come and learn his system and meet the coaches. That is an outstanding event in which he is investing in Michigan High School Coaches. I know Marshall doesn't hold a similar event.

It is what it is.

[85inside]

You are right. It is what it is. I think everyone on here knows what this is.

[Peake]

I am not following you. What is "this"?