The State of the Marshall Football Program

[marshallman]

Yes you are correct.

Who is we though? You mean you?

Are you kidding me.... geez....

Mark Snyder holds camps every summer and they have the Bartrum ans Brown camp where alot of HS coaches come to both. I've been to both.
I don't think Michigan and Marshall are any better than each other this year. In fact, if Marshall played Michigan this year I would bet it would be a tight game with Marshall having a chance to win. If you don't believe this than you are delusional.
We only need to look at Miami, Ohio by 10 and a loss to Toledo. Both bottom of the barrel teams with fired coaches in the mighty MAC!

[Peake]

Those camps cost some serious money as well.

[85inside]

so was he at games? yes

did he hold camps? yes

Keep digging Peake. Everyone has figured you out.

[Peake]

I said nothing about him at High School Games, I was talking about Jersa. He is a Coach, they watch Prospects---act like you know how it works for one second.

Every Coach in America holds camps---brings in money to the program, it brings in interest from the campers, it's a way to evaluate prospects.

You are a homer who is wearing their heart on their sleeve. You haven't brought up a single good point in refering why he should be back aside from he is a nice person. I am being realistic about a man who should not be the Coach anymore because of his lack of success---objective #1 in a Coaches contract!

Go to another board (Goherd.com---herdnation.com) and read how may people want him back---my guess is 80-20 don't want him back.

[85inside]

When I find myself on the website goherd.com, my life will officially be over. I havent brought up any good points? I have had you talking for about 6 or 7 posts now, I must be saying something worthwhile. When people start putting other people down, they usually have nothing to say and they usually show that they are mentally inferior to others. I have noticed your blood pressure getting up a bit on this Snyder thing. It makes me wonder if you are the one that is taking this personally. Maybe you are wearing the emotions on your sleeve?
Is it just Marshall where the number one thing is winning? I know a coach that went 3-9 this year at a place where they are used to playing for championships. Somehow, he was a success.
By the way, what are your qualifications for knowing who the Marshall university football coach should be? I am just curious as to why I might want to listen to your opinion on who the coach should be, over the AD and the President?

[Peake]

I don't care what qualifications you think I should have or have, I am saying use common sense. 4 years in and not one winning season, you do the math.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3764489

WEST POINT, N.Y. -- Army football coach Stan Brock has been fired.


Army athletic director Kevin Anderson notified Brock of the decision on Friday, six days after the Black Knights completed their season with a 34-0 loss to archrival Navy -- their seventh straight loss to the Midshipmen. Brock compiled a 6-18 record in two years as coach.

I have been recruited, in a college program, around college programs, and I see nothing that you have posted that shows me you are anywhere close to understanding or being aware of how any of it works.

Putting you down? Come one....I just don't see any of your points, nor do I see any realistic points in any of them. Of all your posts I really feel inferior to you, let me tell ya.

Keep reaching by bringing up Michigan. Read what Rick Leach had to say about that.

It is my fault for posting---I thought I could educate some people on how recruiting, etc. works, but I guess not. I need to stop posting untill I see a response with validity.

[ballparent]

I don't care what qualifications you think I should have or have, I am saying use common sense. 4 years in and not one winning season, you do the math.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3764489

WEST POINT, N.Y. -- Army football coach Stan Brock has been fired.


Army athletic director Kevin Anderson notified Brock of the decision on Friday, six days after the Black Knights completed their season with a 34-0 loss to archrival Navy -- their seventh straight loss to the Midshipmen. Brock compiled a 6-18 record in two years as coach.

I have been recruited, in a college program, around college programs, and I see nothing that you have posted that shows me you are anywhere close to understanding or being aware of how any of it works.

Putting you down? Come one....I just don't see any of your points, nor do I see any realistic points in any of them. Of all your posts I really feel inferior to you, let me tell ya.

Keep reaching by bringing up Michigan. Read what Rick Leach had to say about that.

It is my fault for posting---I thought I could educate some people on how recruiting, etc. works, but I guess not. I need to stop posting untill I see a response with validity.

See, this is exactly the kind of post you have always made, full of put downs and "I know-it-all" references, but heaven forbid anyone question your posts. I don't see how anyone could support this repetitive BS. You remember in a pm when you were worried about being "that guy" on a board, in fact your exact words were:

I never want to be "that guy" who is rude and makes others feel badly.

Well, here's a word for you, you're "that guy."

[Peake]

I don't care what you think of me, I don't care any longer about anything that you have to say or direct towards me. Just in case you didn't get it the first time, I DON'T CARE! Quote me, put your thing down flip it and reverse it, I don't care.

If someone is so hurt by me saying I don't see their points, then they need to get a little tougher in the mental toughness department. This is a public message sports board, the internet, give me a break. If I am "that guy" to you, then God Bless Me.

I didn't post my comments to you, nor are you adding anything that has to do with the thread. Only another useless I have to act like I am the police/grammer police of this board.

Prove me wrong. Don't like what I post, prove me wrong. What other coaches keep their job after having a record like his? How many after the program is losing money?

[85inside]

"I have been wrong many times, but never in doubt." When you identify with this quote, noone will ever "prove you wrong."

I'll give you the last word on this Peake. The last word and some blood pressure medication should fix you right up.

[svcoach]

peake,completely understand your posts,you are right,time for change.

[Just_A_Fan]

I get what he's saying casue at theend of the day its about winning some football games, which is not what Synder is doing. But until Marshall does something we can just keep talking about the same thing every year until that make a change.

[85inside]

Same goes for the Maize and blue? They were winning every year, until they brought the clown in.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Same goes for the Maize and blue? They were winning every year, until they brought the clown in.

Lloyd Carr would have only won 5-6 games max this season,
it's not like he could have worked miracles.
He knew when to leave, just like Pruitt did.

[85inside]

not that it matters much, but I disagree with you. Michigan's schedule was not that tough. I believe Michigan would have won 8 games and went to a bowl.

[Peake]

If you add Mallet to this roster, then 6 games is possible because you probably get Arrington back, but 8 wins with the team I watched under Jesus Christ couldn't win 8 games.

Phil Steele listed Michigan Strenght of Schd. at 15th in the country----OSU's at 31st.

[Peake]

I know a coach that went 3-9 this year

Just noticed a certain coach named Tressel who went 2-9 his first season at YSU. I know, here comes the, well this is Michigan. Tressel's second year as the Head Coach at OSU he was fortunate to have 13 players go to the NFL that year.

[85inside]

Can that be the final word then Peake? Jesus couldnt win at Michigan.

[Peake]

With last season's team, I don't think anyone could have won more than 4-6 games. Go back and read what Rick Leach had to say about Rich Rod. This is a Marshall thread, and when you run out of ideas, you have to take the converation back to Michigan. Who is inferior now?

Rich Rod has also coached Top 25 teams, won a Sugar Bowl, and had a #1 ranking. Snyder has won a game or two here and there, and has yet to even produce one team with a winning record.

[85inside]

So, Ill let rick leach be the final word.

[marshallman]

I watched the Mark Snyder show with Keith Morehouse and I really feel from the Q/A that he was given next year to have a winning year or he is done. Mark, stated, "When I was hired, I told everyone it was a 5 year plan. Now, the foundation is solid, we have 85 scholarships again and most of the starters are back. I'll have my 4th recruiting class under me. Now, it's time to win, bottom line. If I'm here or not this program will be winning alot more in the next two years. Then, everybody will say, he knew what he was talking about." I think the part about bottom line win said it all. He is graduating his players, he is keeping them out of trouble and he needs to do the other thing.....win! You got to do all three.