Final 4: Wheelersburg vs. Johnstown

[BondRoad Bandit]

Did BurgGrad 6 ever answer this?

I don’t believe so. I will help back him up on it. #11 is a 6’6” receiver. Plays the right x. Is behind butter on the depth chart. 4.5 - 4.6 kid about 205lbs

Wheelersburg is good. Very good.

But there is no way they have a kid 6'6" 205 running 4.5-4.6 sitting on the bench.

Benjamin Victor starts at Ohio State. He was the #97 player in the country and #12 wide receiver coming out of high school. He was 6'4" 180 and ran a 4.6 timed 40.

Yet Wheelersburg has a kid 2 inches taller and as fast or faster sitting the pine? Come On Man!!!

This is exactly what I was thinking 4.5 is elite speed. Even 4.6 is moving well and the only person I would say runs close to that is Mathews based on his 100 meter time which I think he’s fastest recorded was 11.5 I think and that can be calculated into a 4.7 to run a 4.5 or 4.6 that’s running a 11.0 equals a 4.5 no way that speed is sitting on the bench. For example tyler craigmiles has the SOC record in the 100 and he ran in it 10.9 if memory serves me. Then for Minford just because I know it for fact JP Piguet a

[Jack Sparrow]

Wheelersburg is good. Very good.

But there is no way they have a kid 6'6" 205 running 4.5-4.6 sitting on the bench.

Benjamin Victor starts at Ohio State. He was the #97 player in the country and #12 wide receiver coming out of high school. He was 6'4" 180 and ran a 4.6 timed 40.

Yet Wheelersburg has a kid 2 inches taller and as fast or faster sitting the pine? Come On Man!!!

Not disputing that fact about Ben victor. There are a ton of kids in the country that run 4.5-4.6, and some are more gifted and athletic than others. Just cause he’s not starting at burg doesn’t mean he’s not a 4.5-4.6. A lot of things determine who plays at burg. Trust, blocking, speed, agility, hands, route running, play book knowledge (our playbook is complex), strength etc.

No. No there are not.

People love to throw around 40 times.

Garrett Wilson is the #2 WR in the country and is committed to Ohio State. He runs a 4.63 forty. Legitimate.

If Burg has a 6'6" kid that fast....His 3rd period class would be learning the playbook.

From SBNation
157 of the 203 players are as fast or slower than they were in high school, according to their claimed 40 times.
The average college football player is nearly a tenth of a second slower (e.g., a NFL Combine 4.5 after a high school 4.4) after four to five years in a college strength and conditioning program as he was when he entered that program.
93 players ran a sub-4.5 second 40 yard dash in high school. By the time they finished college, just 40 players were capable of breaking the 4.5-second mark.

And the playbook is taught in 6th period, not third!

[TCat]

93 players ran a sub-4.5 second 40 yard dash in high school. By the time they finished college, just 40 players were capable of breaking the 4.5-second mark.

And the playbook is taught in 6th period, not third!

Probably because high school is stop watch times

Who is #11 for Wheelersburg?

They have football class?

[allamericanironman]

Attention breaking wind:

Burg is in negotiations with Brenda Snipes for Superintendent!

[Ed Miller is God]

#11 does run a 4.69 40 ... He Is 205 .... and yes he doesn’t start !!! Burg is that loaded !!! My son knows his role and will be the force y’all deal with next season ... oh and he doesn’t run the 100 meter .... he’s a regional qualifier in the 110 hurdles and the High jump .... so if he’s needed Sat night .... he’s ready !!! Good Luck GO BURG !!

[Crab's Brother]

Not disputing that fact about Ben victor. There are a ton of kids in the country that run 4.5-4.6, and some are more gifted and athletic than others. Just cause he’s not starting at burg doesn’t mean he’s not a 4.5-4.6. A lot of things determine who plays at burg. Trust, blocking, speed, agility, hands, route running, play book knowledge (our playbook is complex), strength etc.

No. No there are not.

People love to throw around 40 times.

Garrett Wilson is the #2 WR in the country and is committed to Ohio State. He runs a 4.63 forty. Legitimate.

If Burg has a 6'6" kid that fast....His 3rd period class would be learning the playbook.

From SBNation
157 of the 203 players are as fast or slower than they were in high school, according to their claimed 40 times.
The average college football player is nearly a tenth of a second slower (e.g., a NFL Combine 4.5 after a high school 4.4) after four to five years in a college strength and conditioning program as he was when he entered that program.
93 players ran a sub-4.5 second 40 yard dash in high school. By the time they finished college, just 40 players were capable of breaking the 4.5-second mark.

And the playbook is taught in 6th period, not third!

So kids get slower working with the best strength and conditioning coaches in the country? No.

Your "facts" are true because people claim times and then when they are actually tested the truth comes out.

Both examples I gave you were kids that were tested at The Opening or other similar camps.

The only Wheelersburg 40 time we know for sure is the QB. He ran a 5.17 at the Canton opening last spring.

At that same place, Massillon's 6'6" 214 pound senior WR Tre'von Morgan ran a 4.71 40. Morgan currently has offers from TCU, Michigan State, and Ole Miss among others.

But yeah, I am sure Wheelersburg has a kid that big and faster riding the pine because he can't block or learn the playbook.

[BondRoad Bandit]

#11 does run a 4.69 40 ... He Is 205 .... and yes he doesn’t start !!! Burg is that loaded !!! My son knows his role and will be the force y’all deal with next season ... oh and he doesn’t run the 100 meter .... he’s a regional qualifier in the 110 hurdles and the High jump .... so if he’s needed Sat night .... he’s ready !!! Good Luck GO BURG !!

Maybe hand time and that’s a big maybe to run a 4.7 that’s around a 11.45 100 and the fastest time recorded for burg in the 110s was 17.21 that’s a huge 5.76 second differential that’s too big a gap for even for a div 1 track stud. The math just isn’t there not knocking the kid but these are facts. For comparison Braden Tilley from minford ran a low 14 110s and he ran a high 4.5.

[allamericanironman]

#11 does run a 4.69 40 ... He Is 205 .... and yes he doesn’t start !!! Burg is that loaded !!! My son knows his role and will be the force y’all deal with next season ... oh and he doesn’t run the 100 meter .... he’s a regional qualifier in the 110 hurdles and the High jump .... so if he’s needed Sat night .... he’s ready !!! Good Luck GO BURG !!

Does the football not fit his hands? That would put him as fastest kid on the team best jumper? Does he comprehend?

[TCat]

Wheelersburg keeps the Strength and Conditioning page up to date. #29 (4.6), #2 (4.65) are fast. #9 is (4.7). #11 isn’t listed

[Crab's Brother]

#11 does run a 4.69 40 ... He Is 205 .... and yes he doesn’t start !!! Burg is that loaded !!! My son knows his role and will be the force y’all deal with next season ... oh and he doesn’t run the 100 meter .... he’s a regional qualifier in the 110 hurdles and the High jump .... so if he’s needed Sat night .... he’s ready !!! Good Luck GO BURG !!

Wheelersburg didn't have a regional qualifier in either of those events last year.

Try again.

[greygoose]

Wheelersburg keeps the Strength and Conditioning page up to date. #29 (4.6), #2 (4.65) are fast. #9 is (4.7). #11 isn’t listed

Looks like according to Maxpreps they have a 6'5" Junior named Corie Maxie #11, that's the only WR at that height, next on the list would be Stidham at 6'2"

[greygoose]

Wheelersburg is good. Very good.

But there is no way they have a kid 6'6" 205 running 4.5-4.6 sitting on the bench.

Benjamin Victor starts at Ohio State. He was the #97 player in the country and #12 wide receiver coming out of high school. He was 6'4" 180 and ran a 4.6 timed 40.

Yet Wheelersburg has a kid 2 inches taller and as fast or faster sitting the pine? Come On Man!!!

Not disputing that fact about Ben victor. There are a ton of kids in the country that run 4.5-4.6, and some are more gifted and athletic than others. Just cause he’s not starting at burg doesn’t mean he’s not a 4.5-4.6. A lot of things determine who plays at burg. Trust, blocking, speed, agility, hands, route running, play book knowledge (our playbook is complex), strength etc.

No. No there are not.

People love to throw around 40 times.

Garrett Wilson is the #2 WR in the country and is committed to Ohio State. He runs a 4.63 forty. Legitimate.

If Burg has a 6'6" kid that fast....His 3rd period class would be learning the playbook.

This is true there isn't 4.5-4.6 kids around every corner. The Wilburn kid from NY laser timed a 4.5 at OU and was offered right then and there, technique can be taught, fine tuning and muscle developed can be enhanced. Size, (height), and speed are 2 things that can't be taught, with speed you can cut minimal time off the 40 but a guy either has the speed or he doesn't.

[Bleeding Red]

Wheelersburg is good. Very good.

But there is no way they have a kid 6'6" 205 running 4.5-4.6 sitting on the bench.

Benjamin Victor starts at Ohio State. He was the #97 player in the country and #12 wide receiver coming out of high school. He was 6'4" 180 and ran a 4.6 timed 40.

Yet Wheelersburg has a kid 2 inches taller and as fast or faster sitting the pine? Come On Man!!!

Not disputing that fact about Ben victor. There are a ton of kids in the country that run 4.5-4.6, and some are more gifted and athletic than others. Just cause he’s not starting at burg doesn’t mean he’s not a 4.5-4.6. A lot of things determine who plays at burg. Trust, blocking, speed, agility, hands, route running, play book knowledge (our playbook is complex), strength etc.

No. No there are not.

People love to throw around 40 times.

Garrett Wilson is the #2 WR in the country and is committed to Ohio State. He runs a 4.63 forty. Legitimate.

If Burg has a 6'6" kid that fast....His 3rd period class would be learning the playbook.

Didnt you know that Burg has kids that would start at D1 Power 5 schools at their position but they ride the pine because they just arent good enough to start at Burg? Bahahaha.

Seriously cant make this stuff up. And Burg people type this stuff out on this thread thinking that people will believe it lol.

[greygoose]

Not disputing that fact about Ben victor. There are a ton of kids in the country that run 4.5-4.6, and some are more gifted and athletic than others. Just cause he’s not starting at burg doesn’t mean he’s not a 4.5-4.6. A lot of things determine who plays at burg. Trust, blocking, speed, agility, hands, route running, play book knowledge (our playbook is complex), strength etc.

No. No there are not.

People love to throw around 40 times.

Garrett Wilson is the #2 WR in the country and is committed to Ohio State. He runs a 4.63 forty. Legitimate.

If Burg has a 6'6" kid that fast....His 3rd period class would be learning the playbook.

Didnt you know that Burg has kids that would start at D1 Power 5 schools at their position but they ride the pine because they just arent good enough to start at Burg? Bahahaha.

Seriously cant make this stuff up. And Burg people type this stuff out on this thread thinking that people will believe it lol.

I'm still sitting here trying to figure out why it even matters.

[BondRoad Bandit]

No. No there are not.

People love to throw around 40 times.

Garrett Wilson is the #2 WR in the country and is committed to Ohio State. He runs a 4.63 forty. Legitimate.

If Burg has a 6'6" kid that fast....His 3rd period class would be learning the playbook.

Didnt you know that Burg has kids that would start at D1 Power 5 schools at their position but they ride the pine because they just arent good enough to start at Burg? Bahahaha.

Seriously cant make this stuff up. And Burg people type this stuff out on this thread thinking that people will believe it lol.

I'm still sitting here trying to figure out why it even matters.

Because it’s blatant lies. And really annoying.

[TCat]

I'm still trying to figure out 6th period football. Do they really have football classes?

[greygoose]

Didnt you know that Burg has kids that would start at D1 Power 5 schools at their position but they ride the pine because they just arent good enough to start at Burg? Bahahaha.

Seriously cant make this stuff up. And Burg people type this stuff out on this thread thinking that people will believe it lol.

I'm still sitting here trying to figure out why it even matters.

Because it’s blatant lies.

Uh hu and?? If the kid can or can't do this or that why does it matter to this game?? I mean if we're talking about Wheelersburg vs Johnstown for a shot at a state championship then why in the world is this the center of a topic?? Even if he ran a 4.4 but couldn't get on the field would it matter?? Just seems pointless to continue a debate about a backup player that may or may not run a 4.6-4.7 which is quick but sorry it's not anything special.

[Bleeding Red]

Didnt you know that Burg has kids that would start at D1 Power 5 schools at their position but they ride the pine because they just arent good enough to start at Burg? Bahahaha.

Seriously cant make this stuff up. And Burg people type this stuff out on this thread thinking that people will believe it lol.

I'm still sitting here trying to figure out why it even matters.

Because it’s blatant lies.

Agreed.

Maybe they are trying to psych Johnstown Monroe out lol. Eventually everyone will be on the field together this Saturday and they will realize its all BS.

[Bleeding Red]

I'm still sitting here trying to figure out why it even matters.

Because it’s blatant lies.

Uh hu and?? If the kid can or can't do this or that why does it matter to this game?? I mean if we're talking about Wheelersburg vs Johnstown for a shot at a state championship then why in the world is this the center of a topic?? Even if he ran a 4.4 but couldn't get on the field would it matter?? Just seems pointless to continue a debate about a backup player that may or may not run a 4.6-4.7 which is quick but sorry it's not anything special.

Maybe that should be your response to the Burg poster that brought it up. Everyone else was just replying back to what he put out on display.

And a 4.6 in high school is special. Its not just "quick". The players that can run even a 4.7 around here in high school (legit) are few and far between.

[allamericanironman]

Not disputing that fact about Ben victor. There are a ton of kids in the country that run 4.5-4.6, and some are more gifted and athletic than others. Just cause he’s not starting at burg doesn’t mean he’s not a 4.5-4.6. A lot of things determine who plays at burg. Trust, blocking, speed, agility, hands, route running, play book knowledge (our playbook is complex), strength etc.

No. No there are not.

People love to throw around 40 times.

Garrett Wilson is the #2 WR in the country and is committed to Ohio State. He runs a 4.63 forty. Legitimate.

If Burg has a 6'6" kid that fast....His 3rd period class would be learning the playbook.

This is true there isn't 4.5-4.6 kids around every corner. The Wilburn kid from NY laser timed a 4.5 at OU and was offered right then and there, technique can be taught, fine tuning and muscle developed can be enhanced. Size, (height), and speed are 2 things that can't be taught, with speed you can cut minimal time off the 40 but a guy either has the speed or he doesn't.

I have to call bs was the wind at his back was he using blocks in spikes on a track on a field. I watched all his highlights he is a legit 4.6 if you see a 4.5 guys highlight I can show you difference. But he is quick his 20 yd shuttle I bet is great. I’d put up 500$ to the winner of SEOPs foot race in cleats on field helmets and shoulder pads we could settle it pretty quick.