Top 10 players in SE Ohio...

[Browns30]

It really aggravates me when people complain about parent coaches. Yea sure there are the select few that aren't any good or in it for the wrong reasons. But our softball program is where it is right now because of the work the parents put into it throughout little league and jr high. Then you have someone like Statethefacts, who are usually jealous about something, complain and those parents aren't allowed to be involved anymore. It does noting but hurt the girls when you have knowledgeable people willing to VOLUNTEER their time to work with ALL of the kids to make the TEAM better. I see it happening right now.

it is funny how you say it aggravates you when you say people complain about parent coaches then you post earlier about kids and coaches not getting the credit they deserve for coaches using popularity and other tactics to get awards. Most of the time, this is occurring because coaches have a personal interest in certain players since they are friends or family. I agree that if you are working with ALL the players for the TEAM then it will get better. That doesn't always happen everywhere trust me. Many teams in the SOC2 are right where they are because of the work and totally agree with you. It has to be that way with the level of competition in that league with Waverly, Wheelersburg, Oak Hill, and Minford. I hold no jealousy and just want the excel to win games instead of allowing sub-par records to be ok just because certain players get to play/bat.

You're right.. I did say that, and I also said that I've seen more favoritism over the years from non-parent coaches than parent coaches. I really can't understand exactly what you're upset about. I know you mentioned not winning and the reason being said is that the team is young. So you're saying certain players are playing because of who they are? .....Unfortunately, we live in small towns and thats how it is...nothing is ever going to seem fair. My advice for them, be so good they have to play you.

[StateTheFacts]

Parent coaching is always going a part of small conference softball. Not enough pay and rewards for non parents to volunteer 100's of hours to only have parents rip you to shreds on social media . Coaching has always been a tough gig , but in 2018-2019 its beyond brutal . Your every move analyzed . Every word is on record . And it only takes 1-2 malcontents to destroy what 70-80-90% agree with . Quite frankly unless they start paying better I think small schools will struggle to find anyone to coach , parent or non parent . Its just not rewarding, been there and done that .

The pay is quite well when you figure out the per hour pay scale. The regular season begins on February 19 and the tournament begins on May 4 according to the OHSAA. The amount a coach makes in based on the contract at various schools but I know I have a friend who started with 0 years of experience and made roughly $3,500 before Uncle Sam takes their part. If you figure you practiced or play a game every day Monday-Friday which we all know doesn't happen with the spring weather at a rate of 3 hour practice or game, which is a high estimate, then they are making $21 an hour which is more than most people make at their regular job. As to everyone getting analyzed or having every work on record that is also the same with your job or jobs of others. You are getting paid to coach and some getting paid to be there for their own kid's game and making roughly $21 an hour doing it. I am sure if these jobs would get posted in the newspaper then there would be knowledge pool of people applying for these jobs.

[StateTheFacts]

It really aggravates me when people complain about parent coaches. Yea sure there are the select few that aren't any good or in it for the wrong reasons. But our softball program is where it is right now because of the work the parents put into it throughout little league and jr high. Then you have someone like Statethefacts, who are usually jealous about something, complain and those parents aren't allowed to be involved anymore. It does noting but hurt the girls when you have knowledgeable people willing to VOLUNTEER their time to work with ALL of the kids to make the TEAM better. I see it happening right now.

it is funny how you say it aggravates you when you say people complain about parent coaches then you post earlier about kids and coaches not getting the credit they deserve for coaches using popularity and other tactics to get awards. Most of the time, this is occurring because coaches have a personal interest in certain players since they are friends or family. I agree that if you are working with ALL the players for the TEAM then it will get better. That doesn't always happen everywhere trust me. Many teams in the SOC2 are right where they are because of the work and totally agree with you. It has to be that way with the level of competition in that league with Waverly, Wheelersburg, Oak Hill, and Minford. I hold no jealousy and just want the excel to win games instead of allowing sub-par records to be ok just because certain players get to play/bat.

You're right.. I did say that, and I also said that I've seen more favoritism over the years from non-parent coaches than parent coaches. I really can't understand exactly what you're upset about. I know you mentioned not winning and the reason being said is that the team is young. So you're saying certain players are playing because of who they are? .....Unfortunately, we live in small towns and thats how it is...nothing is ever going to seem fair. My advice for them, be so good they have to play you.

No matter how good you are in the field or with the bat, you will not play over certain kids due to the ties they have. The coaches with multiple years, 5 or more years, have successful programs because they are playing the best at every position. This is true in all sports and not just softball. I realize life isn't fair, and I teach my kid to work hard to make yourself be seen. It is just so obvious when you have coaches with personal ties who have followed their kid all the way up to ensure certain things happen.

[Browns30]

How much work are they putting in? I can't imagine any coach, regardless of their agenda, not playing the best and hardest working player on a team. They might not be the favorite player for reasons that have been discussed but.. Let's put things into perspective, a few of the kids named on here as some of the top players practice or do some type of workout everyday. Hitting or pitching lessons, weight lifting, cardio, and on the days they don't have some type of organized practice or workout they spend time at home hitting buckets of balls off the tee, defensive drills in the garage, whatever it takes. These are the kids that stay after practice or miss time with friends to improve their game. If they aren't putting in the extra work, you really don't have a case. when it comes between two average players, the one with the connections will play. That's small town politics. Don't be average.

[StateTheFacts]

How much work are they putting in? I can't imagine any coach, regardless of their agenda, not playing the best and hardest working player on a team. They might not be the favorite player for reasons that have been discussed but.. Let's put things into perspective, a few of the kids named on here as some of the top players practice or do some type of workout everyday. Hitting or pitching lessons, weight lifting, cardio, and on the days they don't have some type of organized practice or workout they spend time at home hitting buckets of balls off the tee, defensive drills in the garage, whatever it takes. These are the kids that stay after practice or miss time with friends to improve their game. If they aren't putting in the extra work, you really don't have a case. when it comes between two average players, the one with the connections will play. That's small town politics. Don't be average.

It happens all the time with the best player not playing a position because they are an underclassmen or don't have a dad who is the coach. My daughter puts in hours of work outside the expectations with lessons and extra work. I understand the top players do have a work ethic that is needed to reach that potential. The problem is that they aren't recognize because the decisions are being made through rose-colored glasses. The work is being put in and I don't feel I should have to make a move to a different program and lose the 2nd half of a season due to a transfer. I want her where she is but I think it is wrong how decisions are being made and before you say talk to the coach, it is pointless. I have seen other parents try and nothing changes because they already knowing going in who is playing where no matter how much you work and improve.

[Browns30]

How much work are they putting in? I can't imagine any coach, regardless of their agenda, not playing the best and hardest working player on a team. They might not be the favorite player for reasons that have been discussed but.. Let's put things into perspective, a few of the kids named on here as some of the top players practice or do some type of workout everyday. Hitting or pitching lessons, weight lifting, cardio, and on the days they don't have some type of organized practice or workout they spend time at home hitting buckets of balls off the tee, defensive drills in the garage, whatever it takes. These are the kids that stay after practice or miss time with friends to improve their game. If they aren't putting in the extra work, you really don't have a case. when it comes between two average players, the one with the connections will play. That's small town politics. Don't be average.

It happens all the time with the best player not playing a position because they are an underclassmen or don't have a dad who is the coach. My daughter puts in hours of work outside the expectations with lessons and extra work. I understand the top players do have a work ethic that is needed to reach that potential. The problem is that they aren't recognize because the decisions are being made through rose-colored glasses. The work is being put in and I don't feel I should have to make a move to a different program and lose the 2nd half of a season due to a transfer. I want her where she is but I think it is wrong how decisions are being made and before you say talk to the coach, it is pointless. I have seen other parents try and nothing changes because they already knowing going in who is playing where no matter how much you work and improve.

Sorry, I misunderstood, I thought you meant this player was not playing at all. I completely understand where you are coming from. Most of the things you say, I agree and empathize with but what do you do? You really can't approach anyone because it makes things worse for your kid.

[StateTheFacts]

How much work are they putting in? I can't imagine any coach, regardless of their agenda, not playing the best and hardest working player on a team. They might not be the favorite player for reasons that have been discussed but.. Let's put things into perspective, a few of the kids named on here as some of the top players practice or do some type of workout everyday. Hitting or pitching lessons, weight lifting, cardio, and on the days they don't have some type of organized practice or workout they spend time at home hitting buckets of balls off the tee, defensive drills in the garage, whatever it takes. These are the kids that stay after practice or miss time with friends to improve their game. If they aren't putting in the extra work, you really don't have a case. when it comes between two average players, the one with the connections will play. That's small town politics. Don't be average.

It happens all the time with the best player not playing a position because they are an underclassmen or don't have a dad who is the coach. My daughter puts in hours of work outside the expectations with lessons and extra work. I understand the top players do have a work ethic that is needed to reach that potential. The problem is that they aren't recognize because the decisions are being made through rose-colored glasses. The work is being put in and I don't feel I should have to make a move to a different program and lose the 2nd half of a season due to a transfer. I want her where she is but I think it is wrong how decisions are being made and before you say talk to the coach, it is pointless. I have seen other parents try and nothing changes because they already knowing going in who is playing where no matter how much you work and improve.

Sorry, I misunderstood, I thought you meant this player was not playing at all. I completely understand where you are coming from. Most of the things you say, I agree with but what do you do? You really can't approach anyone because it makes things worse for your kid.

I know some readers misunderstand my posts because I am not an upset parent. I would just like to see my daughter's team win as many games as possible with the correct personnel on the field at the best position to win games. I am glad you are starting to see my point. Nothing will change no matter what is said because it goes in one ear and out the other. They have moved up from one program to the next to ensure they control who plays where. They schedule games with sub-par teams to ensure they have wins but aren't quality wins to helps with big games and tourney play. They just say they can't play with these teams but in reality wants to hit their chest and say we won X amount of games. You hear nothing on here when they lose and only when they win.

[Gopher]

Kaiti White - Fairfield Leesburg Sr.

[captainmorgan_]

to get back on topic

-B. Sturgill (Wheelersburg) INF SO
-R. Hughes (Oak Hill) INF SO
-B. Wolfenbarker (Minford) OF JR
-H. Robertson (Waverly) P SR
-C. Brisker (Oak Hill) INF JR
-K.White (Fairfield) P SR
-S. Vassar (Clay) INF SR
-M. Pierce (Peebles) P SR
-A. Newman (NW) INF JR
-S. Spence (Wheelersburg) P JR
-S. Claxon (Wheelersburg) P JR
-M. Burton (Ironton) P JR
-L. Rice (NW) C SR
-L. Eller (Wheelersburg) INF SO
-C. Schaefer (ND) P JR


what freshmen should be added to this list?

[ManitouDan2]

Nice list Capt' .

[BudLytle]

Parent coaching is always going a part of small conference softball. Not enough pay and rewards for non parents to volunteer 100's of hours to only have parents rip you to shreds on social media . Coaching has always been a tough gig , but in 2018-2019 its beyond brutal . Your every move analyzed . Every word is on record . And it only takes 1-2 malcontents to destroy what 70-80-90% agree with . Quite frankly unless they start paying better I think small schools will struggle to find anyone to coach , parent or non parent . Its just not rewarding, been there and done that .

The pay is quite well when you figure out the per hour pay scale. The regular season begins on February 19 and the tournament begins on May 4 according to the OHSAA. The amount a coach makes in based on the contract at various schools but I know I have a friend who started with 0 years of experience and made roughly $3,500 before Uncle Sam takes their part. If you figure you practiced or play a game every day Monday-Friday which we all know doesn't happen with the spring weather at a rate of 3 hour practice or game, which is a high estimate, then they are making $21 an hour which is more than most people make at their regular job. As to everyone getting analyzed or having every work on record that is also the same with your job or jobs of others. You are getting paid to coach and some getting paid to be there for their own kid's game and making roughly $21 an hour doing it. I am sure if these jobs would get posted in the newspaper then there would be knowledge pool of people applying for these jobs.

This may be the most ridiculous post I have ever seen! From a former coaches perspective, if you think this is the only time a coach is working on the program, you are WAY MISINFORMED! I don't care the quality of the coach... there is always field maintenance, parent meetings, practice and game prep, AD/administrator meetings, etc., etc., etc. If you think a high school softball coach in a small program makes $21 an hour, you need the job for a year! Regarding the whining about poor coaching (just "statingthefacts" so don't complain) APPLY FOR THE JOB!!!

[BudLytle]

Boo Sturgill (Wheelersburg) is the real deal... she can flat play!

Alexander (Piketon) is solid

Kellough (Huntington) P... is solid as well and will only get better!
(How could I go without mentioning and Huntington kid... LOL)

Haven't got to see as many play in the last few years, but hopefully after this year I can get back out to more games!

[sportsdude]

have not seen alexander or kellough, What position does alexander play and what year are them both? I need to get out to more games this year as well.

Rylee Hughes from Oak Hill, I would add and I can say I have seen and follow that is the real deal as well and is one of the best around.

[ManitouDan2]

Alexander is a P and a good one. Can play in college somewhere for sure . I think she is Sr by now .

[Oddthomas]

Alexander has committed to Heidelberg!

[StateTheFacts]

What seniors for local teams have already signed a letter of intent for a college for next year????

[captainmorgan_]

ive been saying it about hughes and sturgill for 2or 3 years now. both special ladies who would be neck and neck talent wise, i said in a previous post i give the edge to sturgill because she plays for the better team and coach.

what special freshmen to watch this year?

[Kroeter]

You may wanna look at Sheridan to find some top SE players

[92falcon]

Whoever thinks you get $21/hour coaching in a high school sport such as softball, baseball, track etc in southern Ohio has never coached.

[Softballlove78]

What seniors for local teams have already signed a letter of intent for a college for next year????

Southworth from eastern