Week 7: OSU @ ILLINOIS

[91blue14]

meyer quit on florida when things got tough

[GoBuckeyes2786]

Same here. I'd much rather prefer Fickell to do well and keep the job. I like fickell alot and wish him the best. However, if he isn't able to get it done then options must be explored whether its urban Meyer or the next guy in line.

As far as the Meyer we think we would be getting, he may come in a be unsuccessful. I really don't see that happening. If he's had his time to get a break from coaching and calm down a lil bit, begin missing what he loves, find his urge and desire to coach again with a fresh start at a new school I think he could bring in alot of passion and fire to Columbus. Especially if he has truly has a sweet spot and desire to coach the buckeyes.

Meyer may not come in and win 2 out of 6 championships or in his 2nd year but it can be done. Tressel had his chance at 3 just couldn't seal the deal. I think Urbans name and past success would turn alot of heads and make alot of noise in the recruiting world. Ohio state recruits well anyways but a coach like Meyer would enhance that in my opinion.

The way I see it, the buckeyes won't be down for long. Whether it's Luke fickell, Urban Meyer or the next guy, the buckeyes will be back.

[seofan_via_dublin]

My ideal coach will have head coaching experience, value BOTH offense and defense, understand the history of OSU and the importance of the Michigan game, have proven success at whatever level he's been at, be able to relate to and recruit today's top athletes, and be a long term option that won't quit once his system is figured out.

Urban Meyer, for me, fits all of my requirements, except for the last 2.

I can't see him staying long term, and as soon as the SEC caught on, he bailed!

[seofan_via_dublin]

Also, UF was too up and down.

National title one year, 8 wins the next.

I expect 10 wins every year as a minimum, no apologies!

[C-Bolt]

I agree that he might not live up to the high expectations we'll be expecting of him,and his health scares me, might not be around too long if he does take the job, but I do like him and it would be a big shot in the arm for recruiting

[seofan_via_dublin]

I don't disagree, I think he would be like an I.V. Shot of medicine for the program.

Would bring in great players, would get us back on the winning track, would probably win a national title in his 5 year run.

But I don't think he'd last more than 5 years.

If you could get in a time machine and go forward and tell me that he'd be a coach at OSU for the next 12-15 years, and his health is not a problem, then I'd probably change my mind.

Then again, drugs, drunk driving, domestic violence, and theft were the visible off field issues that were rampant under Meyer at UF. There are plenty other rumors with backing that are speculation that I don't want this program to have near it at this time. We're going to be on probation, and under a microscope by both the media and the NCAA, we can't afford the bad press that UF was able to cover up nationally!

[VegasEagle]

Yeah but say he brought that type of SEC offense to the big ten dont you think other teams would have a tough time with it. I mean lets be honest when i think big ten I think large and powerful when I think SEC I think large powerful and fast.

[seofan_via_dublin]

His teams were not large and powerful, they were fast. This is why once Saban brought Big Ten football to SEC talent, it was the end of the Meyer era.

Urban's defenses were constantly undersized. What the Big 10 knows as a linebacker, Meyer was using as a fast D Lineman, what we would consider a safty, he had at linebacker.

That undersizing works great, until you have to take a physical pounding instead of a finesse game.

My rants are going to read to some as Meyer hate. No I very much respect what he did at every stop he made, and think he is a great coach.
But this discussion is, "is he right for OSU, RIGHT NOW". I'm not convinced.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

i wasn't saying i wanted him either, in fact i told his uncle i hoped luke fickell got a fair shot, being dealt this mess, he inherited.

[VegasEagle]

Either way he crushed an OSU team in 06 with those types of players no matter how you look at it he knows what hes doing.
The man won 2 National Championships for a reason I would take his style all day over Fickell.

[GoBuckeyes2786]

I completely agree with dubs. Meyer would be the kick in the a$$ the whole program needs right now and I believe he would another trophy in the case. If he was a guy that we could plan on long term then I think he would be great if he was a 10-15 year committed coach. Like you, I believe 5yrs is reasonable expectation. Then again if it's the mans dream job he may set in and go Joe Pa on buckeye nation lol

[seofan_via_dublin]

Like I said, he's a good coach. 06 title game has tons more variables than Urban's style getting the win.

He also lost to Michigan during Tebow's Heisman year!

[VegasEagle]

Like I said, he's a good coach. 06 title game has tons more variables than Urban's style getting the win.

He also lost to Michigan during Tebow's Heisman year!

Other then Ginn going out and the so called fight in the locker room before the game and Troy Smith putting on 40 lbs. what was the other variables????? And I dont think Tebow was 100% in that game not saying it would matter but I think his shoulder was hurt

[dazed&confused]

I don't know, maybe it's time to step outside the program. I know, I know, Cooper came through that route but if he had just split with Michigan, he would be hailed as a great coach. What about Patterson at TCU? Does a lot with a little. Imagine of he had OSU's talent to work with.

[oldmo31]

Don't want him.Looks at talent ,uses it up and moves on!! Said he left Florida because Gator fans expectations were unrealistic.Does he even have a clue what he's in for?Five years max and he's gone.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Other then Ginn going out and the so called fight in the locker room before the game and Troy Smith putting on 40 lbs. what was the other variables????? And I dont think Tebow was 100% in that game not saying it would matter but I think his shoulder was hurt

Ginn was a major focus of the pregame offensive gameplan. He showed on the opening kick, Florida had nobody that could catch him (Meyer takes pride in special teams and puts his best on the field for it). Once he went down, the #1 CB now shifts to our #2 reciever, the deep threat is gone so safties no longer have to stay back, 60-70% of the game plan is off the field so Tress and Bollman are calling plays on the fly without prep, Troy is out of shape, and the Gators lined up and smacked us in the face.

The Gator win in 06 had nothing to do with speed, it was about Florida pushing us around like school girls and us lining up with our dbs give a 15 yard pad to their short route passing game.

They punched us, we didn't punch back, and Tress crapped down his leg.

It wasn't speed, it wasn't finesse, it was OSU getting beat at their own game.

[oldmo31]

How about we give Fickle a two year contract next week and see if that helps on the recruiting front.At least give him a fare chance.Woody,Meyer,Lombardi,wouldn't fare any better with the mess Fickle was given.

[VegasEagle]

Other then Ginn going out and the so called fight in the locker room before the game and Troy Smith putting on 40 lbs. what was the other variables????? And I dont think Tebow was 100% in that game not saying it would matter but I think his shoulder was hurt

Ginn was a major focus of the pregame offensive gameplan. He showed on the opening kick, Florida had nobody that could catch him (Meyer takes pride in special teams and puts his best on the field for it). Once he went down, the #1 CB now shifts to our #2 reciever, the deep threat is gone so safties no longer have to stay back, 60-70% of the game plan is off the field so Tress and Bollman are calling plays on the fly without prep, Troy is out of shape, and the Gators lined up and smacked us in the face.

The Gator win in 06 had nothing to do with speed, it was about Florida pushing us around like school girls and us lining up with our dbs give a 15 yard pad to their short route passing game.

They punched us, we didn't punch back, and Tress crapped down his leg.

It wasn't speed, it wasn't finesse, it was OSU getting beat at their own game.

Even if Ginn stayed in that game we still lose by 14 maybe more alex boone got beat like a drum all night and troy was running for his life. They blew us off the ball they were hands down the better team

[dazed&confused]

Other then Ginn going out and the so called fight in the locker room before the game and Troy Smith putting on 40 lbs. what was the other variables????? And I dont think Tebow was 100% in that game not saying it would matter but I think his shoulder was hurt

Ginn was a major focus of the pregame offensive gameplan. He showed on the opening kick, Florida had nobody that could catch him (Meyer takes pride in special teams and puts his best on the field for it). Once he went down, the #1 CB now shifts to our #2 reciever, the deep threat is gone so safties no longer have to stay back, 60-70% of the game plan is off the field so Tress and Bollman are calling plays on the fly without prep, Troy is out of shape, and the Gators lined up and smacked us in the face.

The Gator win in 06 had nothing to do with speed, it was about Florida pushing us around like school girls and us lining up with our dbs give a 15 yard pad to their short route passing game.

They punched us, we didn't punch back, and Tress crapped down his leg.

It wasn't speed, it wasn't finesse, it was OSU getting beat at their own game.

Good teams get caught in a bad game and get tossed around all the time. In a single game, outlying outcomes can happen. Play that game five times with both teams healthy and I'd take my chances on OSU winning at least three.

[C-Bolt]

just heard NCAA ruled no major violations in the Auburn Cam Newton recruiting scam they are scott free now,,, really????? I am absolutely stunned