Week 7: OSU @ ILLINOIS

[VegasEagle]

just heard NCAA ruled no major violations in the Auburn Cam Newton recruiting scam they are scott free now,,, really????? I am absolutely stunned

Figures

[Bleeding Red]

How about we give Fickle a two year contract next week and see if that helps on the recruiting front.At least give him a fare chance.Woody,Meyer,Lombardi,wouldn't fare any better with the mess Fickle was given.

But if it didn't get tremendously better, it would really screws things up long term!

[GoBuckeyes2786]

Fickell was given a mess to work with but even so he still has a pile of talent. I know there off field issues that could serve as a distraction but you gotta put that behind you and play football at some point. Not having the players due to suspensions didn't cost us the 3 losses IMO. We lost to a Miami team would should have beat out of the stadium. Extremely poor execution and bad play calling killed that game, absolutely no offense in that game much like the Michigan state game. We started the Miami game awful then throws miller into a mess and expects a miracle. Our offense was too one dimensional that game and it killed us because it shut down the running game. Same for the second half of the Nebraska game. Miller goes down, Bauserman sucks and you take your foot off the pedal on defense and let them make us look stupid. We "could" be 6-0 at this point 5-1 at worst. It may not be all fickells fault but it may be his for not ramming his foot so far up bollmans a$$ he can't make it the stadium the rest of the season. I just wish fickell would start tearing a$$ and get players and coaches fired up to do something. We looked so good the first half against nebraska and so awful the second. I really hope we come out Saturday and play 4 quarters of football and beat Illinois like a drum. We are very capable.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Even if Ginn stayed in that game we still lose by 14 maybe more alex boone got beat like a drum all night and troy was running for his life. They blew us off the ball they were hands down the better team

Doubtful. Ginn was the game plan, and UF had nobody that could stop him.

If Oklahoma plays for the title, and Landy Jones goes out on the first play, what are their odds?

[VegasEagle]

Even if Ginn stayed in that game we still lose by 14 maybe more alex boone got beat like a drum all night and troy was running for his life. They blew us off the ball they were hands down the better team

Doubtful. Ginn was the game plan, and UF had nobody that could stop him.

If Oklahoma plays for the title, and Landy Jones goes out on the first play, what are their odds?

How was troy going to get ginn the ball running non stop even if ginn stayed in was alex boone going to gain super powers and stop a speed rush????? NOPE and thats a big IF about Jones.. Say all you want we had the better team on paper yes but that means nothing we were out gunned out classed and out coached in every phase of the game Ted Ginn was not going to win the game alone. Did it kill us when he went out yeah it sure did but our O-line was garbage the D had no clue how to stop a screen and we had a fat out of shape QB running around all night

[GoBuckeyes2786]

By losing Ginn it not only changed our game plan completely but allowed Florida to change their defensive scheme to allow them to put the pressure on smith like they did. We lost the most atheletic player in the nation which was a huge threat anytime he stepped on the field. Take that guy away and the defense goes from their #1 DB on Ginn or possible double team, to guarding gonzalez and robiskie. By taking away our deep threat with Ginn, we had to shorten the field and they on defense were able to shorten the field, play closer to the line of scrimmage and completely slow our offense down.

Don't get me wrong, we were out coached especially on defense. Its often hard to change your plan the last minute when a star goes down. Our D was torched the first half but also doesn't the entire game on the field beside the offense was stuffed. I'm not saying we would have won that game had Ginn not went down, but I think he would have made a significant difference in the outcome.

[VegasEagle]

By losing Ginn it not only changed our game plan completely but allowed Florida to change their defensive scheme to allow them to put the pressure on smith like they did. We lost the most atheletic player in the nation which was a huge threat anytime he stepped on the field. Take that guy away and the defense goes from their #1 DB on Ginn or possible double team, to guarding gonzalez and robiskie. By taking away our deep threat with Ginn, we had to shorten the field and they on defense were able to shorten the field, play closer to the line of scrimmage and completely slow our offense down.

Don't get me wrong, we were out coached especially on defense. Its often hard to change your plan the last minute when a star goes down. Our D was torched the first half but also doesn't the entire game on the field beside the offense was stuffed. I'm not saying we would have won that game had Ginn not went down, but I think he would have made a significant difference in the outcome.

I can agree but having ginn would have not made that big of difference like i said we were out coached Meyer knew what tressel was all about. Same Offense we have now

[seofan_via_dublin]

The thing about the loss of Ginn, it allowed Florida to blitz and stack the box with no worry about being burnt.
I can't argue that we would definatly win with him, but his loss changed everything we did offensively in that game, and allowed Florida to pressure without hesitation.
Our gameplan was destroyed, and Meyer's was enhanced for the better.

We failed to make adjustments and failed to use 7 weeks off to make a back up plan. So yes, we were out coached, but that came from Thanksgiving till Janurary, not in the game. Urban out reacted the Buckeyes once the game started.

None of this is relevant to the discussion of would he be the best answer to coach after Fickle though.

[GoBuckeyes2786]

^^^ Thank you for that last sentence in your statement. The 06 game talk sparks a bad memory lol

If urban truly committed himself to the Ohio state university football program then I think he would be the man. But only he knows the extent of what he wants and his passion for the job. But that's any coach I guess.

We still have half the season yet to see what happens before we completely jump ship and bail on Fickell. Crazy things can happen and I'm confident that this team has the ability to turn it around and make the best of it if the truly desire.

[seofan_via_dublin]

That's right.

[dazed&confused]

I think this would be his one big opportunity to jump back in. Not that many great jobs open up and the longer he stays in the studio, the less likely he will be to attempt coaching on the big stage again. Look at Cowher and Gruden. It is very hard to see them coming back and being competitive in coaching. Vermeil is the major exception to the rule.

[VegasEagle]

The thing about the loss of Ginn, it allowed Florida to blitz and stack the box with no worry about being burnt.
I can't argue that we would definatly win with him, but his loss changed everything we did offensively in that game, and allowed Florida to pressure without hesitation.
Our gameplan was destroyed, and Meyer's was enhanced for the better.

We failed to make adjustments and failed to use 7 weeks off to make a back up plan. So yes, we were out coached, but that came from Thanksgiving till Janurary, not in the game. Urban out reacted the Buckeyes once the game started.

None of this is relevant to the discussion of would he be the best answer to coach after Fickle though.

Fair enough dubs good debate get at you later buddy

[seofan_via_dublin]

No problem!

[seofan_via_dublin]

QB coach (laughable statement) Nick Siciliano said he wouldn't name the backup QB at this time, because he didn't want to tip their hand to Illinois.

He also was the first offensive coach to publicly accept blame, in saying that if the QB had any issues at being unprepared it was on him!

[seofan_via_dublin]

Nick also said that Braxton's ankle is good, and he'll have no restrictions.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Vrable on his input to the weekly captain choice:

"I'm looking for guys that aren't popular that just want to win and they're willing to call people out when they're not doing their job"

[GoBuckeyes2786]

Gotta love Vrabel and his enthusiasm

[VegasEagle]

Vrable on his input to the weekly captain choice:

"I'm looking for guys that aren't popular that just want to win and they're willing to call people out when they're not doing their job"

Is it just me or is he the onlys a person that has a little fire on the coaching staff?????

[seofan_via_dublin]

That's my biggest gripe, I expected Fick to keep his fire and energy, so far he hasn't at all.

[fightingtigers45]

LOL at these last few posts.

Florida wins regardless.