Cincinnati Bearcats

[Spenceman]

With Cincinnati football program on the rise...I agree what they said about Cin and Ohio State last night on cin vs usf game.I think that would be a good in state rival game and they should play every year....what most of you people think?

P.S.thought i would make a new topic cause this is getting off topic with Cin vs USF lol

[cool cucumber]

I think it is a great idea I mean it would help us out alot if we won against them in the BCS standings because there becoming a power house in College Football

[west siders]

I think it would be a good idea this year but down the road maybe not here is why............



win loss tie
their overall record is......536–541–51compared to Ohio state 813–307–53

their stadium capacity is 35,098 compared to Ohio state's....... 102,329


they have won 10 conference titles .....Ohio state has won 35

they have played in only 11 bowl games... Ohio State has played in 40


Ohio state has had 7 Heisman winners Cincy has none
Ohio State has won 7 National Championships cincy has won 0

So you can see which progam has had more history and why it wouldn't be a good idea to play every year.

[Orestes]

Yes. It looks like a great idea now. Just like the great idea of OSU playing Miami (OH) when Big Ben was on the team. It looks good for a year or two, the game gets scheduled, and they stink by the time the game gets played.

Fowler said that OSU should play UC instead of Toledo. Well, first of all, I remember Fowler making fun of OSU for playing "another in-state school" when they played UC last time. Two, a lot of seasons Toledo is better than UC. As one of my friends said, "We play all the crappiest football teams in Ohio, and often times, UC is one of them."

By the way, OSU has played UC 4 times in the last 10 years. That is OSU's most frequent non-conference opponent. Oh, and OSU is 4-0 in those games, and they won by an average score of 31-13. They are on OSU's schedule again in 2012. That will be 5 times in 13 years. What has UC done to be an every year rival with OSU? Being viewed as an equal as a "program" is much different than being viewed as an equal as a flash-in-the-pan team.

Brian Kelly is spot on with this one. He has said that it's a no-win situation for OSU. If OSU loses to UC, it is a national and Ohio media frenzy. A negative one. If OSU wins. Oh well, it's just UC.

He said that UC needs to win and win big for a large period of time before OSU should have any interest in the game. UC has been pretty solid for a year and half. OSU needs incentive. Losing to USC is respected. Beating them is huge. Right now, OSU has ZERO incentive. Prove it over the long haul UC. As of now, you are a giant flash in the pan.

[abuck76]

I agree 100% with orestes............

[candystore]

true that^^^^^

[ronnie88richards]

It would be really interesting to seem the play eachother.

[SSU Grad]

I think it would be a good idea this year but down the road maybe not here is why............



win loss tie
their overall record is......536–541–51compared to Ohio state 813–307–53

their stadium capacity is 35,098 compared to Ohio state's....... 102,329


they have won 10 conference titles .....Ohio state has won 35

they have played in only 11 bowl games... Ohio State has played in 40


Ohio state has had 7 Heisman winners Cincy has none
Ohio State has won 7 National Championships cincy has won 0

So you can see which progam has had more history and why it wouldn't be a good idea to play every year.

Sounds like a cop out to me. I bet you support them playing Toledo and YSU every year though I bet.

[SSU Grad]

It seems to me the fans of the OSWho Buckeyes have a difficult time accepting the fact that the state of Ohio may have another BCS competitor within the state. There is room for UC. If Ohio is such a great football state, then everyone should be excited about UC's rise to national prominence. Florida, a truly great football state, has what? 5 or so BCS schools.

[candystore]

any word on pike???

[iwearblacknikes]

it would be awesome for Cincy because they would end up beating the Buckeyes.

GO BEARCATS!

[farmer]

If Pike can come back and play well this team has a good chance at going undefeated. It will not be easy with some tougher games coming up.

If Kelly stays there like Huggins did in basketball that would help to keep the football team from the ups and downs of some programs. As coaches go in and out.

Would be good to start a series even though moving a home game to PBS.

[Orestes]

The guy who said "Toledo and YSU every year. Umm No. UC is OSU's most frequent non-conference foe in the past 10 years. So, again, No. You post blatant lies.

Also, UC may be better this year. Too bad. Just as Brian Kelly says, they should have to do it like this for several years, to prove that it will be maintained, before OSU should recognize them as an equal program (not team) and play them every season.

As of now, it is a flash in the pan.

For those of you who cannot see the difference, I feel sorry for you. UC's own coach agrees with me.

[farmer]

My response was if Kelly were to stay around and not be getting coaches to go in and out. That would help bring stability to UC and if he continues winning they could very well keep that fire under the pan flashing for years.
Huggins kept the bb team winning at a high level for a number of years. The are in a BCS conference also. Yes it might take a few years of winning but it also takes time to get on the schedule. It might not benefit OSU to play all the time but the WV Gov had to get involved to get the WVU Marshall series going. That is a team that has fallen back but is still big for the fans and state economy.

If Kelly stays and UC makes a bigger committment to football 2 teams in Ohio can win year after year.

[Orange and Brown]

If UC goes undefeated then Kelly runs after the money at another school!! I would love for him to stick around but I think he will go to a bigger conference!

[Orestes]

If UC goes undefeated then Kelly runs after the money at another school!! I would love for him to stick around but I think he will go to a bigger conference!

I think he only leaves for a ND, PSU, Michigan, OSU type of position... ND would be wise to do it, as he is a step up from Weis.

[theassassin]

My response was if Kelly were to stay around and not be getting coaches to go in and out. That would help bring stability to UC and if he continues winning they could very well keep that fire under the pan flashing for years.
Huggins kept the bb team winning at a high level for a number of years. The are in a BCS conference also. Yes it might take a few years of winning but it also takes time to get on the schedule. It might not benefit OSU to play all the time but the WV Gov had to get involved to get the WVU Marshall series going. That is a team that has fallen back but is still big for the fans and state economy.

If Kelly stays and UC makes a bigger committment to football 2 teams in Ohio can win year after year.

not really big for wvu fans... marshall fans don't turn out well either.
if you are not from wv or a fan of either school noone really cares about this game at all. wvu has nothing to gain. eventually marshall will win a game in this series... not good if your wvu.

at this time osu has nothing to gain from playing uc every year. if uc continues on this upward trend for another 8-10 yrs maybe. until then, i say no...... see my comment on wvu/marshall

[Orestes]

My response was if Kelly were to stay around and not be getting coaches to go in and out. That would help bring stability to UC and if he continues winning they could very well keep that fire under the pan flashing for years.
Huggins kept the bb team winning at a high level for a number of years. The are in a BCS conference also. Yes it might take a few years of winning but it also takes time to get on the schedule. It might not benefit OSU to play all the time but the WV Gov had to get involved to get the WVU Marshall series going. That is a team that has fallen back but is still big for the fans and state economy.

If Kelly stays and UC makes a bigger committment to football 2 teams in Ohio can win year after year.

not really big for wvu fans... marshall fans don't turn out well either.
if you are not from wv or a fan of either school noone really cares about this game at all. wvu has nothing to gain. eventually marshall will win a game in this series... not good if your wvu.

at this time osu has nothing to gain from playing uc every year. if uc continues on this upward trend for another 8-10 yrs maybe. until then, i say no...... see my comment on wvu/marshall

Yep. Spot on about OSU/UC.

Plus, by creating UC as a rival, and playing them every year, OSU would be publicly recognizing UC has an equal "program." Even if UC were not on that level yet, OSU making that move would help lift them to that status. OSU would be foolish to do it. OSU had to earn it. UC will have to earn it, and as you said, over a period of years.

[SSU Grad]

The guy who said "Toledo and YSU every year. Umm No. UC is OSU's most frequent non-conference foe in the past 10 years. So, again, No. You post blatant lies.

That's right. I forgot about Bowling Green and the mighty Akron Zips. Please forgive me for lying.

[Orestes]

The guy who said "Toledo and YSU every year. Umm No. UC is OSU's most frequent non-conference foe in the past 10 years. So, again, No. You post blatant lies.

That's right. I forgot about Bowling Green and the mighty Akron Zips. Please forgive me for lying.

And yet, UC has shown up for frequently than any of them in the last 10 years. That's the deception in your post.

Brian Kelly thinks you're on the wrong side of this argument.


BTW, the state legislature moved to make OSU play in-state schools, and OSU did so. However, I don't remember if OSU waited for them to pass a bill, or if OSU just made the move since it was inevitable. Obviously, the state was thinking of the economic benefits for their public institutions.

That's another reason OSU does not play these teams on the road. Economic waste. Why play in a 20-30K stadium when the game could be sold to 105K? Huge sums of money, for both parties, would be lost by doing so.