When do we hear Northwest shouldn't be playing in the SOC1?

[Mad-Dogg]

I have said from when they were first dropped down and I will continue to say it. They have no business their. Just b/c they can’t complete with the quote “big dogs” don’t mean they should be moved down to the smaller division. Put them back in soc 2 where they belong

[Jason Vorhees]

Northwest win-loss record since 2000 against the SOC2:
2000: 0-4
2001: 0-4
2002: 0-4
2003: 0-4
2004: 0-4
2005: 1-3
2006: 0-4
2007: 0-5
2008: 0-5
2009: 0-5
2010: 1-4
2011: 0-5
2012: 0-5
2013: 0-5
2014: 0-1
2015: 0-1
2016: 0-1
2017: 0-1
2018: 0-1
2019: 0-2
Totals 2-67. I think that number speaks for itself.
Record vs. SOC1 in the same time frame:
2000: 2-0
2001: 0-2
2002: 1-2
2003: 1-2
2004: 0-3
2005: 2-1
2006: 0-3
2007: 1-2
2008: 0-3
2009: 0-2
2010: 1-2
2011: 1-2
2012: 0-3
2013: 2-1
2014: 4-1
2015: 5-1
2016: 1-5
2017: 3-3
2018: 2-4
2019: 3-0 (so far)
Totals 27-38.

[southern_ohio_fan]

How did NW turn it around so fast? I'm sure they probably want to be SOC2. They are going to be solid got a while.

They have a good sophomore class. The dads associated with that group got people on the school board including 1 of them. That is how they got the votes to upgrade the facilities. That is also the group that stabbed Montavon in the back. They got this coach because they can be involved.

You really have no clue, do you?

[bleed_blue]

Northwest win-loss record since 2000 against the SOC2:
2000: 0-4
2001: 0-4
2002: 0-4
2003: 0-4
2004: 0-4
2005: 1-3
2006: 0-4
2007: 0-5
2008: 0-5
2009: 0-5
2010: 1-4
2011: 0-5
2012: 0-5
2013: 0-5
2014: 0-1
2015: 0-1
2016: 0-1
2017: 0-1
2018: 0-1
2019: 0-2
Totals 2-67. I think that number speaks for itself.
Record vs. SOC1 in the same time frame:
2000: 2-0
2001: 0-2
2002: 1-2
2003: 1-2
2004: 0-3
2005: 2-1
2006: 0-3
2007: 1-2
2008: 0-3
2009: 0-2
2010: 1-2
2011: 1-2
2012: 0-3
2013: 2-1
2014: 4-1
2015: 5-1
2016: 1-5
2017: 3-3
2018: 2-4
2019: 3-0 (so far)
Totals 27-38.

They are where they need to be. This wasn’t an issue when SOC 1 teams were beating them on a regular basis.

[Frank Reagan]

There is absolutely no excuse for one player scoring that many touchdowns in a blowout. JV game tomorrow as an excuse with 60 players? Not acceptable excuse.

[Mad-Dogg]

Northwest win-loss record since 2000 against the SOC2:
2000: 0-4
2001: 0-4
2002: 0-4
2003: 0-4
2004: 0-4
2005: 1-3
2006: 0-4
2007: 0-5
2008: 0-5
2009: 0-5
2010: 1-4
2011: 0-5
2012: 0-5
2013: 0-5
2014: 0-1
2015: 0-1
2016: 0-1
2017: 0-1
2018: 0-1
2019: 0-2
Totals 2-67. I think that number speaks for itself.
Record vs. SOC1 in the same time frame:
2000: 2-0
2001: 0-2
2002: 1-2
2003: 1-2
2004: 0-3
2005: 2-1
2006: 0-3
2007: 1-2
2008: 0-3
2009: 0-2
2010: 1-2
2011: 1-2
2012: 0-3
2013: 2-1
2014: 4-1
2015: 5-1
2016: 1-5
2017: 3-3
2018: 2-4
2019: 3-0 (so far)
Totals 27-38.

So b/c they can’t complete with the big dogs in 2 lets move them down to 1

[NW Phoenix]

With open enrollment this is a stupid argument. Open enrollment changed everything. The school size doesn’t matter much anymore.

[southern_ohio_fan]

There is absolutely no excuse for one player scoring that many touchdowns in a blowout. JV game tomorrow as an excuse with 60 players? Not acceptable excuse.

I'd consider 67-0, 67-7 a blow out. The kid only had 19 carries. Its not like they fed him 35 times to get 9 TDs. Give credit where credit is due.

[Frank Reagan]

Giving up 60+ and winning by 30+ is a blow out. I am giving credit where it’s due. The credit goes to Northwest for running it up. It’s not the runner’s fault.

[art_vandelay]

Northwest gets one more year to whip up on SOC I schools and to continue building up the program, then the following year it time for them to be back in SOC II. They got the numbers and facilities now. It now on the coaches and players to maintain it and start competing with the big boys.*

[se-alum]

Northwest will have to move back up in the next year or 2. Yes we have close to 60 kids, we have 6 seniors 7 juniors 21 sophomores and 25 freshmen.
The sophomore Braden Cambell carried the ball 19 times tonight and yes he had 9tds and I believe 365 yards which are school records. He had 12 or 13 carries in the first half. The starters only played 5 quarters the last 2 games. They played more tonight due to the fact they have a jv game in the morning and already have some jv kids out .
I think we started 4 freshmen tonight and several sophomores. I'm not trying to make any excuses but stating some facts. These kids have worked harder this year than they ever have in their lives. The seniors that have stuck it out and still play only won 5 games in the first 3 years of their highschool career. They have been on the wrong end of several beatings in their careers.

Not sure about the JV game excuse. They probably had 30+ kids on the sideline for the JV game today.

[greygoose]

It is time for the move back up, high numbers and much improved facilities. Either that or northwest should apply to another league I've always thought SVC would be a good fit.

[BigBlueNation]

Northwest gets one more year to whip up on SOC I schools and to continue building up the program, then the following year it time for them to be back in SOC II. They got the numbers and facilities now. It now on the coaches and players to maintain it and start competing with the big boys.*

I hope that is what happens. I would say the scheduling would be a nightmare and is going to take some time.
The 8th grade already plays the SOC 2 schools except for Valley.

[BigBlueNation]

Why not have a vote this winter and move them back up ? They have righted the ship so to speak , the numbers are up , they are kicking the snot out of SOC 1 schools , move them back up ASAP. As far as computer points talk from the SOC2 schools, and the ill will about having to play NW in conference ? I'd recommend letting your stud RB score 9 TD's on them to remind them what its like .

I would say it's just not that easy. The scheduling will take some time.

[Jason Vorhees]

Why not have a vote this winter and move them back up ? They have righted the ship so to speak , the numbers are up , they are kicking the snot out of SOC 1 schools , move them back up ASAP. As far as computer points talk from the SOC2 schools, and the ill will about having to play NW in conference ? I'd recommend letting your stud RB score 9 TD's on them to remind them what its like .

I would say it's just not that easy. The scheduling will take some time.

This is the same thing that Manitou Dan said when Oak Hill was in the SOC1. He’s a Notre Dame guy. He wasn’t saying these things when Notre Dame was beating Oak Hill in the 90’s or early 2000’s. He only comes out and says something when he’s going to look justified in his opinion. Northwest needs time to develop their program. They have been bad for years. Let them have some success and more importantly, they’re kids. Let them have fun and enjoy it.

[art_vandelay]

Northwest gets one more year to whip up on SOC I schools and to continue building up the program, then the following year it time for them to be back in SOC II. They got the numbers and facilities now. It now on the coaches and players to maintain it and start competing with the big boys.*

I hope that is what happens. I would say the scheduling would be a nightmare and is going to take some time.
The 8th grade already plays the SOC 2 schools except for Valley.

Schedules already filled for next year so won’t happen then. But following year it could be done, and when looking at Northwest junior high scores, I think the timing is right. I was skeptical last year when they fired last head coach, but these coaches and kids are showing that things are different out there.

With this current group of sophomores and the classes behind them, 2021 season is time for the switch back and I think they will be able to be competitive at that time.*

[Jack Sparrow]

Why is this any different than what valley did several years ago? Or oak hill?

Northwest and the SOC are doing what they said they would do and let them build their program. It will make the SOC 2 that much more relevant for southern Ohio football. Kind of wish some other conferences would take this blue print

[Hylander]

Northwest lost to Green just last year. They were 2-4 in conference play as well. Their record against SOC 2 this year is 0-2.

How is this even a conversation?

[ManitouDan2]

Why not have a vote this winter and move them back up ? They have righted the ship so to speak , the numbers are up , they are kicking the snot out of SOC 1 schools , move them back up ASAP. As far as computer points talk from the SOC2 schools, and the ill will about having to play NW in conference ? I'd recommend letting your stud RB score 9 TD's on them to remind them what its like .

I would say it's just not that easy. The scheduling will take some time.

This is the same thing that Manitou Dan said when Oak Hill was in the SOC1. He’s a Notre Dame guy. He wasn’t saying these things when Notre Dame was beating Oak Hill in the 90’s or early 2000’s. He only comes out and says something when he’s going to look justified in his opinion. Northwest needs time to develop their program. They have been bad for years. Let them have some success and more importantly, they’re kids. Let them have fun and enjoy it.

Really a stretch to say I'm a Notre Dame guy . I couldn't name 1 single player on their team , I have no clue of their record , haven't been to a game in 4 years I'd guess . So this " Notre Dame " guy doesn't really stick. It just pissed me off they did to Green what other SOC 2 schools have done to them , to me , of all people the people that have been bullied should be the last person ( team) to bully someone. I know NW has a logistical nightmare getting kids from 10-20 miles away to show up at practices and games 5-6 days a week . I want them to have a stable program , last night just rubbed me wrong , to let a single player run up stats . Just doesn't seem right . I have no dog in the fight what so ever , just love HS sports in general ( and getting to where I hate nearly all pro sports )

[Jason Vorhees]

I would say it's just not that easy. The scheduling will take some time.

This is the same thing that Manitou Dan said when Oak Hill was in the SOC1. He’s a Notre Dame guy. He wasn’t saying these things when Notre Dame was beating Oak Hill in the 90’s or early 2000’s. He only comes out and says something when he’s going to look justified in his opinion. Northwest needs time to develop their program. They have been bad for years. Let them have some success and more importantly, they’re kids. Let them have fun and enjoy it.

Really a stretch to say I'm a Notre Dame guy . I couldn't name 1 single player on their team , I have no clue of their record , haven't been to a game in 4 years I'd guess . So this " Notre Dame " guy doesn't really stick. It just pissed me off they did to Green what other SOC 2 schools have done to them , to me , of all people the people that have been bullied should be the last person ( team) to bully someone. I know NW has a logistical nightmare getting kids from 10-20 miles away to show up at practices and games 5-6 days a week . I want them to have a stable program , last night just rubbed me wrong , to let a single player run up stats . Just doesn't seem right . I have no dog in the fight what so ever , just love HS sports in general ( and getting to where I hate nearly all pro sports )
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”ND was up 40 something to around 20 when I lefti at hslftime . My daughter played at ND and this years ND twsm would smoke any team in the past 8-10 years there.”

Not a Notre Dame fan, huh?