2010 OSU Buckeyes

[FANOSPORTS]

FANOSPORTS, if I remember right there was talk that Ohio State was too slow and couldnt score enough to beat Oregon last year. That was a really good team that made USC look like San Jose State. Now after we outplayed them they're not considered a quality win because they dont have a great history?

Also JChipwood, Hamby dropped the pass against Texas not Hartsock.

All I was saying is that Oregon was a one hit wonder, not a perennial contender in any way, shape or form. Anyone can have a good year or two put together but don't sustain it. The Arizona State team that OSU beat in 1996 was much the same way and then John Cooper was bantering that the Bucks should be national champions after that game. I don't know what he was thinking but until you can beat teams like LSU, Texas, USC, Florida State, Tennessee, Florida etc. (who OSU has lost all games to in recent memory) it is not a "great year" or decade. Other than the Miami game in 2002 (the one great win they've had but even that was controversial), the other bowl wins have come against teams like Arizona State,Texas A&M, BYU, Kansas State, Oregon and other usual 2nd tier teams in college football. The South Carolina teams of Lou Holtz early in the decade made OSU look very normal and they definitely are not an SEC powerhouse. I'm out 8)

[The_Legend_of_Northwest]

Ohio State beat Texas 24-7 in Austin, in 2006.

[Hoggy]

Ohio State beat Texas 24-7 in Austin, in 2006.

Yes sir, you are correct and I edited the above post to reflect this information. Good catch.......that makes it a 5-6 record instead of 4-7.

[JChipwood]

you are absolutely right svd but they did have the christ child himself playing for them the year he was named "best college football player". They lost alot after we played them but were still higher ranked than UM, much like most times when the 2nd BigTen plays the 2nd SEC, and UM was not supposed to be able to handle all of the speed and contain Jesusbow. I would have like to have beaten them too but that wasn't going to happen from the top of our team to the bottom, I was glad to see UM manhandle the Gators and make Jesusbow look slow and knock him around with ease.

[seofan_via_dublin]

[fightingtigers45]

JChipwood:

Tebow accounted for 4 TDs in the game and Florida led 35-31 with 5 minutes to play. Did Tebow have a bad last 5 minutes? Probably. Did he himself play terribly? No. And even if you want to say he did, it was due to the lack of time given to him by the line. (See: Smith, Troy)

Also, the problem of the game wasn't Tebow. It was the fact that Tebow did not have enough time to throw due to the line. He rarely had 3 seconds to throw the ball due to the poor line play. Also, Manningham and Arrington torched us. Tebow doesn't play corner, therefore that is not his fault.

[fightingtigers45]

I don't see why everyone has such a problem with Tebow's religion and stoop to calling him "Jesusbow"...Really? Jesusbow? Is that the best you can come up with? Im sorry Tebow was a phenomenal player and he wasn't a Buckeye but bashing a kid due to his strong faith is fairly pathetic.

[seofan_via_dublin]

After all, he is the one who is blameless.

Nobody has a problem with Tebow's religon, and I don't really think anyone has a
problem with his on the field accomplishments.

Where the problem lies, is with CBS sports and ESPN, shoving him down the throats of everyone
on a constant basis, and the on-air broadcasters making him out to be the Christ child.

If people are going to have to listen to it constantly, then they are going to have their own ways of
twisting the media hype, and slamming the player.

Tebow never really asked for the hype, but he sure as heck never did anything to discourage it.

I hope that this is the last I have to read on this issue, if we want to talk Tebow, then let's
make a thread.

This thread is for the 2010 Buckeyes, who has no excuse to be in anything but the National Title game!

[fightingtigers45]

What do you want Tebow to do? Hold a press conference and say "stay away"?

If a player is going to be shoved down my throat by the media, whether it be Favre, Tebow, Vick, LeBron, Strasburg, etc., then I'd prefer it be someone like Tebow who is a great role model for youth. The guy can use the media as a platform for his other obligations in life.

[fightingtigers45]

And also, as I have told my personal friends, it is not his fault the media is obsessed with him. I agree he never discouraged it, but that's not his right either. Regardless, he himself has never done anything to warrant bashing from anyone on this site.

Bash ESPN and Gary Danielson. Not Tim.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Nobody is going to bash Ed Werner for Farve news, nobody busts on Tim Kirkchin (sp) for Strassburg hype,
and nobody hates on Pedro Gomez for all the Barry Bonds media.

You only look at the subject of the story, and while I agree Tebow doesn't really deserve the bashing,
I'm not going to blame anyone that takes out their frustrations on him.

I hear all the time how people hate the Buckeyes, because they grew up in the area and that's all they ever heard about.
Buckeye this, and Buckeye that.

It's the same deal, I don't ask them to hate the news for reporting it, I just realize that their a bunch of idiots and move on.

[fightingtigers45]

I completely agree with what you are saying because I hate Favre due to his media coverage. I'm being hypocritical. Favre has other reasons to be dislike as well.

I dislike the Bucks due to the way I was treated leading up to the 2006 title game. probably unfair to the entire fan base and team.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Well, you got the last laugh when it comes to that game!

[FSUfly#13]

I say the Bucks lose 2-3 games.
I always pull for an upset, but is unlikely.

Miami game might be tough, and might not. Although no ACC bias, but I really think Miami is one of the fastest teams in the country. Whether they are a top defense, I don't know that, but they always bring a fast defense and maybe I'm wrong but Miami is much faster than the Buckeyes. Maybe the styles of play from both teams can be deceiving, because Ohio State is more conservative on defense and Miami plays more uptempo. It should be a very competitive game. I am more impressed with Harris more than I am with Pryor. I just don't think Pryor has lived up to his hype, yet I think he is living IN the hype with all the media attention he gets. He just has to stay humble. I think he was better at the end of last season once he realized he was not going to be a front runner for the Heisman.

Other tough games for Ohio State are definitely Penn State and Iowa. Purdue game IMO won't be tough. Home game for Ohio State seeking revenge from last year. Michigan I am not so sure about, rival or not they were downright awful. Just like FSU vs. Florida, FSU has not played well against the Gators at all in the past few years and the rivalry just is not what it used to be.

Of course I hope the Buckeyes lose 5-7 games, because I do think they are overrated as far as media and fanbase hype every year. But a BCS bowl is a BCS bowl. I just think they need to realize that most other teams in BCS probably played a much tougher schedule and OSU needs to be thankful for being in the Big Ten sometimes. I'd just like to see how successful they would have been in a conference like the SEC in the past few years or the Big 12 and ACC.

Ohio State will finish with 2-3 losses at most.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Fly, do yourself a favor. Go out and buy a current preseason magazine, and read it.

Then when you bust on the Buckeyes, at least you might have a chance at looking like you know what your talking about.

[FANOSPORTS]

Pre-season rankings are good and all but until the Big Ten champ can beat someone in a BCS bowl game it's all for naught. You can beat the OU's, Eastern Michigan's and Marshall's all day long (can you say $ signs) and you might as well say 5 sure league wins every year (without even breaking a sweat) but when you get around that 10th, 11th and 12th game you'd better be able to strap it up because at that point the big boy's are coming and a lot of times in the last few years, I think the team just thought it could rest on it laurels and we see how that's turned out. The addition of Nebraska will definitely help and the conference championship game ($ signs again) will at least give the Big-10 champion a good test before the BCS game. JMO

[FSUfly#13]

Fly, do yourself a favor. Go out and buy a current preseason magazine, and read it.

Then when you bust on the Buckeyes, at least you might have a chance at looking like you know what your talking about.

Sorry that I am being realistic and not choosing the Buckeyes to go undefeated. I think we will see what Ohio State is made of from 2011 forward once that conference championship game is played. If you can beat PSU, Iowa, Nebraska..not once, but twice. Then we shall see what the Buckeyes are made of. It's a totally different atmosphere and experience when playing for a conference championship. Bowl games are on the line. Whether Ohio State is 8-3/9-2/10-1 that conference championship now must put all the pressure on the Buckeyes to win that extra game. They won't be HANDED a conference championship just for having the better record. One team will get a shot at the Buckeyes once more, granted that Ohio State even plays for a conference championship. FSU and Miami had to play 2 times in a few seasons I believe, because both were best in the conference. The first game is tough as it is, the second game is worse. Especially if you won the first one and lose the second one..so IMO I believe this will test Ohio State like no other.

[JChipwood]

We all saw last year what happened to the best ACC team against the second best from the BigTen. That game was a complete on the field domination, anyone who says differently didn't watch the game and the score is irrelevant to the game itself. As far as the Bucks playing in that conference, I would rate the conferences SEC, Big12, BigTen, Pac10, ACC, Big East with the only dispute being between 3 and 4, the last 2 are definitely the worst BCS conferences both at the top and from top to bottom. Bucks would win the ACC more often than they do the BigTen in sleeper fashion.

The championship game will make teams play another game and that is really all it brings to the table. Every game is important, especially league games. Money is the reason for the championship game. Look at last years ACC champ game, neither team deserved a BCS bid because both were mediocre teams when compared to the other BCS teams. The reason the "pressure" is on now for conf champ games is because in some conferences there is only one team that could even compete in a BCS game and the only way teams from some conferences can earn a spot is by winning their conf champ game and getting the automatic bid. BigTen football isn't flashy but the conference produces NFL talent comparable only to the SEC so they do something right. It drives me crazy too at times but it is what it is and usually works out in bowl games, problem is that people only want to focus on the end result or overall record. The games themselves most of the time are very very highly contested to anyone who watches them and the BigTen recenty has lost more than they have won but over the test of time the BigTen has been dominant and will be again sometime soon.

I rooted for some of those FSU teams back when it was evident that Earl Bruce couldn't lead a team to consistant victory and proved he was a lackluster recruiter and even worse on the field coach, but I was also at a game b/w FSU n OSU in the eighties that was one of our pre conference games much like playing OU this year and it turned out to be a wash. The history doesn't compare nor does the present day success.

[The_Legend_of_Northwest]

Yeah it was Hamby but he dropped it twice not once! My bad, I was just going from memory.

No problem I didnt want you blaming the wrong person.

[The_Legend_of_Northwest]

Pre-season rankings are good and all but until the Big Ten champ can beat someone in a BCS bowl game it's all for naught.

The Big 10 won TWO BCS games last season. :122246