Week 11 OSU vs. PSU

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seofan_via_dublin wrote:Not defending by putting down yours, putting down yours because you have no interest in ours but still insist on inserting your two cents.

Buckeyes fans don't sit on their emotions when outsiders want to interject their issues.

Also, nothing he said was wrong!
ahhhh... another comment from the peanut gallery. :shock:


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Raiderball wrote:
bigtimehitter wrote:Torrence got picked on and picked and picked on, he then got to do his own pic'n. That changed the whole game. Nice to finally see the o-line open up some holes and play they like they should have been and Herron ran hard. I think the most underrated guy on the entire on either side of the ball is Zach Boren, guy is a mauler. without him smashing the backers, our running game is no where booty effective as it was tonight.

And now Raiderball. Where do I start?? Overrated? I know that if i rooted for a powerhouse such as WVU, I don't know if i would rag on a top tier team that is in a BCS bowl every year.
Especially when my team was 1-2 in conference play in the brutal Big East, thats tough sleddin. But they did take out a very dangerous Cinci team tonight, very impressive.
I guess the silver lining on that cloud is, when you're a Mountaineer fan, you never have to worry about your team being overhyped or overrated, because hell, no one expects anything from WVU. In all seriousnesss though, good luck to the Mountaineers in that brutal confrence play, it's a war of attrition with those top flight programs. :roll:

Is that all you got? Defending your team by putting down someone else's team? That's all any of you can do. :aaaaa8
No actually, the sad thing is, I root for WVU. But how can you jump on a Buckeye thread and constantly dog them? Overrated in what way? If winning your conference title 5 years in a row with a good shot of 6 coming this year, what is there that is overrated? How many Big East Titles has WVU won in the last 20 YEARS? I don't have the facts in front of me, but I guarantee it's not 6, and i did say the LAST 20 YEARS.
If WVU played in the Big Ten ,I honestly believe that they would be lucky to be Big Ten champs 3 times in a 20 year period, and thats counting shared. And I'm not putting WVU down, like I said I root for WVU, but I am stating the facts.
When you get on here trying to bring down one the top 3 programs in the last 10 years, and your team hasn't even sniffed the jock strap of the big guys, what kind of response do you expect?

B.T.W- I know you will respond with WVU's two BCS wins, so i guess I can't say they have not neccesarily sniffed the jocks of the big boys, I guess they had there noses in it a couple times. :lol:


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Why do OSU fans have to defend a 24 point win over a solid team who was hot coming into the game?

Penn State > Georgia


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If Ohio State were to play Oregon or Auburn and win by 3 TD's I still think we would have to defend their "overrated-ness" and listen to how poorly those teams played or whatever reason to find to take away the credit due to the Buckeyes


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Great comeback by the Bucks in the 2nd half. They played horrible in the 1st half but really stepped it up a notch in the 2nd half to put tyhis game away.

On a side note, did anyone notice the huge Terrell Pryor head that was bobbing up and down behind the Gameday Crew during the pregame coverage? That was my son and his roommate holding that up behind Herbstreit. He said that after they left the Gameday pregame coverage and were walking back home a woman stopped them and said she was Terrells mother and had to have a picture with it. He sent it to my wife and I'll see if I can get it and put in on.


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Re: Week 11 OSU vs. PSU

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No, raiderball, you are the peanut gallery.
You have no concern with the buckeyes, until you want to stir a pot.

Once you say inflammatory things, you get all mad when the faithfull bring up WVU.


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seofan_via_dublin wrote:The team needs to run the offense that works best for them, not the offense that is the flavor of the week. If the spread option or another O worked better, then run it.

But over and over again, it's been proven that the Buckeyes play better and get more production when they play from under center and play running back focused run first smash mouth football.

Fine for the 60's model of football the big ten plays but has shown to be a losing stratergy when placed up against modern spread offensive teams. (from the SEC) :122245 MD


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ManitouDan wrote:
seofan_via_dublin wrote:The team needs to run the offense that works best for them, not the offense that is the flavor of the week. If the spread option or another O worked better, then run it.

But over and over again, it's been proven that the Buckeyes play better and get more production when they play from under center and play running back focused run first smash mouth football.

Fine for the 60's model of football the big ten plays but has shown to be a losing stratergy when placed up against modern spread offensive teams. (from the SEC) :122245 MD

Maybe next year the Big Ten should follow the SEC and BUY better players.

Oh, and the last I checked, most SEC schools dont run the spread. Or maybe you were talking about SPREADING the money around ;-)


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It hasn't shown that, as the Buckeyes have gotten away from that style of offense when playing the SEC teams.

They've gotten tied up in the flash and assumption that they have to matchup offensively, when in fact they don't. They need to play the football that best suits them, not try and play an offense that gets them out if their strengths.

Last year against Oregon, they played a more traditional style buckeyes offense and it paid off.

Apparently you don't watch big ten football. If you did, you'd realize that the offenses in the conference are nothing like they were in the 60s.


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When picking an offense you also have to look at what the weather conditions maybe at the end of the year. Can your offense adapt to the cold? IF SEC teams had to play in the cold you would see them wearing as much extra clothing as they can. Which you see in the NFL with some players.
The talk about the SEC then saying the Big 10 is over rated. But during the Auburn game it was said that Auburn had the 94 rated pass defense.


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seofan_via_dublin wrote:No, raiderball, you are the peanut gallery.
You have no concern with the buckeyes, until you want to stir a pot.

Once you say inflammatory things, you get all mad when the faithfull bring up WVU.

No dubs, not mad here. :122249 I know my team hasn't played very well this year. All 3 games we've lost should have/could have been wins. I also know the Big East hasn't played well in non conference games this year... again, you prove my point though. You have no comeback other than to go after my team. That is all you can do to argue.

Dubs, you've already been called the peanut gallery... try and come up with something different. I'm thinking, you must be the one getting mad... :122246 :122246 :122246


isn't there some saying about a duck? if it looks like one and sounds like one.... I know the truth.... Dubs, the truth will set you free... :lol:


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Granted...Auburn is a little questionable in the back end of their D...BUT....Do any OSU homers EVER check out or even understand the quality of the offenses they play in the SEC...Aaron Murray is very young...but he would easily be the top QB in the TEN....AJ Green?...The point is there are a lot of great players and schemes...To think or say that Penn State is better than Georgia is downright hilarious... :lol:....The Big Ten is not very good from top to bottom...Some things I noticed from the OSU game......Worst Penn State team (albeit injured and beaten up) I have ever seen. How would OSU defend these schemes,athletes, and coaching talents in the SEC....NOT very well...to say the least...And if you are one who thinks OSU should and could line up in an I. and run TB iso and be successful against ANYONE who can play,you are absolutely out of your gourd...I really thought Pryor looked great running outside zone read,and that scheme was the key to the outstanding 98 yard drive which turned the game around...Watching OSU throw the ball is embarrassing...Their scheme is so horrible and Terrelle gets exposed because of this and his inability to make any throw besides gunning it down the field.


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Didn't watch the game. I was working the Burg game....Couldn't believe it took OSU so long to pull away.


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[edit]Season results since 1950
Year Record Final Poll Ranking (AP & Coaches/UPI)
2009 9-4 #22
2008 9-4 #23
2007 11-2 † #6
2006 11-2 #10
2005 11-1 † #5
2004 8-4 † NR
2003 8-5 † NR
2002 9-4 #25
2001 3-8 NR
2000 7-5 NR
1999 4-7 NR
1998 8-4 NR
1997 7-5 NR
1996 8-4 NR
1995 5-6 NR
1994 7-6 NR
1993 11-1 † #7
1992 5-4-2 NR
1991 6-5 NR
1990 4-7 NR
1989 8-3-1 #21
1988 11-1 #5
1987 6-6 NR
1986 4-7 NR
1985 7-3-1 NR
1984 8-4 NR
1983 9-3 #16
1982 9-3 #19
1981 9-3 #17
1980 6-6 NR
1979 5-6 NR
1978 2-9 NR
1977 5-6 NR
1976 5-6 NR
1975 9-3 #20
1974 4-7 NR
1973 6-5 NR
1972 8-4 NR
1971 7-4 NR
1970 8-3 NR
1969 10-1 #19
1968 7-3 NR
1967 5-4-1 † NR
1966 3-5-2 NR
1965 6-4 † NR
1964 7-4 † NR
1963 4-6 NR
1962 8-2 NR
1961 4-6 NR
1960 0-8-2 NR
1959 3-7 NR
1958 4-5-1 † NR
1957 7-2-1 NR
1956 6-4 † NR
1955 8-2 † #19
1954 8-1 † #12
1953 8-2 † #10
1952 7-2 NR
1951 5-5 NR
1950 2-8 NR

WVU has only had four one loss seasons since 1950 and that was playing in weaker conferences, and you want to try and say Ohio State is over-rated. If WVU only had one loss that is all you would hear.
AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS
1 Oregon (49) 9-0 1484 1
2 Auburn (2) 10-0 1396 3
3 TCU (2) 10-0 1391 4
4 Boise State (7) 8-0 1366 2
5 LSU 8-1 1196 12
6 Wisconsin 8-1 1182 7
7 Stanford 8-1 1143 10
8 Ohio State 8-1 1087 8
9 Nebraska 8-1 1055 9
10 Michigan State 9-1 868 16
11 Alabama 7-2 861 5
12 Oklahoma State 8-1 821 19
13 Iowa 7-2 807 15
14 Arkansas 7-2 775 17
15 Utah 8-1 657 6
16 Virginia Tech 7-2 540 20
17 Mississippi State 7-2 501 21
18 Arizona 7-2 481 13
19 Oklahoma 7-2 436 11
20 Missouri 7-2 420 14
21 Nevada 8-1 304 25
22 South Carolina 6-3 170 18
23 Texas A&M 6-3 130 NR
24 Florida 6-3 94 NR
25 UCF 7-2
USA Today Coaches' Poll
RK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS
1 Oregon (50) 9-0 1463 1
2 Auburn (4) 10-0 1389 2
3 TCU (2) 10-0 1340 4
4 Boise State (3) 8-0 1330 3
5 Wisconsin 8-1 1184 7
6 LSU 8-1 1153 11
7 Ohio State 8-1 1123 8
8 Nebraska 8-1 1067 10
9 Stanford 8-1 1058 12
10 Michigan State 9-1 876 15
11 Oklahoma State 8-1 832 18
12 Alabama 7-2 791 5
13 Iowa 7-2 779 16
14 Arkansas 7-2 696 19
15 Utah 8-1 659 6
16 Oklahoma 7-2 569 9
17 Virginia Tech 7-2 563 20
18 Mississippi State 7-2 477 21
19 Arizona 7-2 403 13
20 Missouri 7-2 395 14
21 Nevada 8-1 328 23
22 South Carolina 6-3 151 17
23 UCF 7-2 99 NR
24 Florida 6-3 85 NR
25 Texas A&M 6- BCS Harris Poll USA Today Computer Rankings
RK TEAM AVG PVS RK PTS % RK PTS % AVG A&H RB CM KM JS PW %
1 Oregon .9638 1 1 2820 .9895 1 1463 .9919 3 4 5 4 2 2 3 .910
2 Auburn .9611 2 2 2684 .9418 2 1389 .9417 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1.000
3 TCU .9259 3 3 2620 .9193 3 1340 .9085 2 2 1 2 3 3 2 .950
4 Boise State .8662 4 4 2585 .9070 4 1330 .9017 5 5 3 5 8 10 7 .790
5 LSU .8170 10 6 2221 .7793 6 1153 .7817 4 3 4 3 4 6 4 .890
6 Stanford .7454 13 8 2134 .7488 9 1058 .7173 6 9 13 8 5 4 5 .770
7 Wisconsin .7349 9 5 2229 .7821 5 1184 .8027 10 14 9 14 9 8 10 .620
8 Nebraska .7298 7 9 1984 .6961 8 1067 .7234 6 7 8 7 7 5 6 .770
9 Ohio State .6613 11 7 2145 .7526 7 1123 .7614 15 13 14 12 19 18 12 .470
10 Oklahoma State .6211 17 13 1508 .5291 11 832 .5641 6 6 10 6 6 7 8 .770
11 Michigan State .6180 14 10 1682 .5902 10 876 .5939 9 8 12 9 10 9 9 .670
12 Alabama .5490 6 11 1627 .5709 12 791 .5363 11 10 6 11 17 16 13 .540
13 Iowa .5223 16 12 1564 .5488 13 779 .5281 14 16 11 17 11 14 14 .490
14 Utah .4669 5 15 1265 .4439 15 659 .4468 13 17 7 15 14 13 11 .510
15 Arkansas .4569 18 14 1422 .4989 14 696 .4719 17 15 18 16 16 15 17 .400
16 Oklahoma .3900 8 16 1067 .3744 16 569 .3858 16 11 16 13 15 19 19 .410
17 Missouri .3511 12 20 757 .2656 20 395 .2678 12 12 17 10 12 12 16 .520
18 Arizona .3200 15 19 817 .2867 19 403 .2732 17 19 15 18 13 11 18 .400
19 Mississippi State .3169 20 18 904 .3172 18 477 .3234 19 18 19 19 20 17 15 .310
20 Virginia Tech .2647 22 17 1033 .3625 17 563 .3817 25 0 21 22 0 0 25 .050
21 Nevada .1981 23 21 661 .2319 21 328 .2224 21 23 24 20 23 24 20 .140
22 Florida .0825 NR 23 228 .0800 24 85 .0576 23 20 20 23 0 0 24 .110
23 South Carolina .0807 19 22 284 .0996 22 151 .1024 26 22 22 0 0 0 0 .040
24 Kansas State .0765 NR NR 43 .0151 -- -- -- 20 21 0 21 18 21 22 .190
25 Texas A&M .0694 NR 24

Your conference is extremely weak when you don't have one team in the top 25 in any poll.2010 Big East Standings

Conference Overall
Team W L W L
Rutgers 1 3 4 5
South Florida 3 2 6 3
West Virginia 2 2 6 3
Syracuse 4 2 7 3
Connecticut 2 2 5 4
Louisville 2 3 5 5
Cincinnati 1 3 3 6
Pittsburgh 3 1 5 4
Your team is really weak when they have a 500 record in such a weak conference. So how about shutting your pie hole about the Buckeyes, when you have no facts to back anything you say up. We are all mad because we have to watch a team from the Big East that sucks play in a BCS Bowl, bet the rating will be high for that game.


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The General wrote:Granted...Auburn is a little questionable in the back end of their D...BUT....Do any OSU homers EVER check out or even understand the quality of the offenses they play in the SEC...Aaron Murray is very young...but he would easily be the top QB in the TEN....AJ Green?...The point is there are a lot of great players and schemes...To think or say that Penn State is better than Georgia is downright hilarious... :lol:....The Big Ten is not very good from top to bottom...Some things I noticed from the OSU game......Worst Penn State team (albeit injured and beaten up) I have ever seen. How would OSU defend these schemes,athletes, and coaching talents in the SEC....NOT very well...to say the least...And if you are one who thinks OSU should and could line up in an I. and run TB iso and be successful against ANYONE who can play,you are absolutely out of your gourd...I really thought Pryor looked great running outside zone read,and that scheme was the key to the outstanding 98 yard drive which turned the game around...Watching OSU throw the ball is embarrassing...Their scheme is so horrible and Terrelle gets exposed because of this and his inability to make any throw besides gunning it down the field.
Georgia is barely over .500 and lost to 4-6 Colorado. Yeah, Georgia is so tough. Penn State was playing their best football of the year, and had lost at Iowa and at Alabama for two of their three losses.

Ohio State is scoring 40+ points per game. They are doing something right on offense.

Oh the "..." the replacement for lacking knowledge in basic English mechanics.


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I would not fret too profusely about my mastery of English grammar.If I were you(and thank God I'm not)I would be substantially more concerned about my vision and comprehensive skills. Remember Orestes.Perceptions are not reality.They are real only for the ignorant,biased,or the politically motivated. Nobody else.


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Reality says Georgia is not a good football team this year, or did you not watch the Colorado game!

I guess they are good if it serves your reality for them to be good.


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Hey charge, thanks for posting the WVU information......... on an OSU/PSU thread :lol: :lol: :lol: Wasn't necessary though. I have a couple sites bookmarked with all that information available. Anything else you would like to know about the Mountaineers though? :shock:
I think this thread has been hijacked and you guys have done it yourself :122246


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Orestes wrote:
The General wrote:Granted...Auburn is a little questionable in the back end of their D...BUT....Do any OSU homers EVER check out or even understand the quality of the offenses they play in the SEC...Aaron Murray is very young...but he would easily be the top QB in the TEN....AJ Green?...The point is there are a lot of great players and schemes...To think or say that Penn State is better than Georgia is downright hilarious... :lol:....The Big Ten is not very good from top to bottom...Some things I noticed from the OSU game......Worst Penn State team (albeit injured and beaten up) I have ever seen. How would OSU defend these schemes,athletes, and coaching talents in the SEC....NOT very well...to say the least...And if you are one who thinks OSU should and could line up in an I. and run TB iso and be successful against ANYONE who can play,you are absolutely out of your gourd...I really thought Pryor looked great running outside zone read,and that scheme was the key to the outstanding 98 yard drive which turned the game around...Watching OSU throw the ball is embarrassing...Their scheme is so horrible and Terrelle gets exposed because of this and his inability to make any throw besides gunning it down the field.
Georgia is barely over .500 and lost to 4-6 Colorado. Yeah, Georgia is so tough. Penn State was playing their best football of the year, and had lost at Iowa and at Alabama for two of their three losses.

Ohio State is scoring 40+ points per game. They are doing something right on offense.

Oh the "..." the replacement for lacking knowledge in basic English mechanics.
Is that the same Iowa team that was lucky to beat Indiana and lost to Northwestern?

40+ a game... 73 vs E Mich and 52 vs Minny


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I finally figured out what Raiderball is really thinking when he says over-rated
O-the number of national championships WVU has
V-i wish WVU had the vest
E-excellent is Ohio State football
R-real good also describes Ohio State

R-ranked in the top ten unlike WVU
A- the grade OSU should get
T- Tressel great coach
E-earned everything
D-dumb for a WVU fan to put down Ohio State.


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