TCU to join the big east in all sports

[1987chieftains]

ESPN link
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/ne ... id=5862368

[seofan_via_dublin]

Getting out before Nevada and Fresno join the MWC.
With Boise, TCU, Nevada, Fresno, the MWC would have been at or near the ACC/Big East standard for football.

This will help the Big East, help TCU, but in if the other Big East teams don't improve then it could be nothing more than a parrallel move for TCU.

[mister b]

Don't really understand this move by the Big East members. Huge travel costs associated with this and TCU isn't what I call a foundation stone for the football side of things. They are more of a "johnny come lately than UC, WVU or Pitt" concerning football.

[seofan_via_dublin]

A Johnny come lately that is better than every team in the conference with a fraction of the budget that they will have once the Big East money come along!

[Orange and Brown]

The big East will be about the same with or without TCU. It may open up a few more areas for rucruiting so that TCU can continue to get better.

[mister b]

While I like Gary Patterson as a coach and he has done a fine job at TCU since 2000, they don't have much of a resume before Patterson. I am afraid that once he leaves, which is a good bet, they will fall back to their previous level of play, much like Texas Tech.

The travel cost for all sports will be a drain on all schools athletic budgets. Outside of football, I don't get it, from the current members side of it.

[ManitouDan]

what do we call it now the big east plus west ? the great divide conference ?

[seofan_via_dublin]

If the cowboys can be in the NFC east, why not TCU in the Big East, they're both in Dallas!

[el savior]

Don't really understand this move by the Big East members. Huge travel costs associated with this and TCU isn't what I call a foundation stone for the football side of things. They are more of a "johnny come lately than UC, WVU or Pitt" concerning football.

From Fort Worth, TX to:

Rutgers: 1,600 miles
UConn: 1,750 miles
Syracuse: 1,550 miles
Tampa: 1,140 miles
Cincy: 1,009 miles
WVU: 1,232 miles
Pitt: 1,255 miles
L'Ville: 900 miles
DePaul: 1,000 miles
Nova: 1,500 miles
Seton Hall: 1,377 miles
Notre Dame: 1,067 miles
Georgetown: 1,586 miles
Providence: 1,800 miles


From Fort Worth, TX to...

Colorado St: 830 miles
UNLV: 1,190 miles
Air Force: 600 miles
Utah: 975 miles
Wyoming: 855 miles
New Mexico: 550 miles
BYU: 1,150 miles
SDSU: 1,330 miles


MWC Average: 930 miles

Big East Average: 1,341 miles

Not really as big as difference as some would think.

[ManitouDan]

everything is big in Texas lol

[dazed&confused]

And the Big East adds the Texas market. Might they be planning a TV network?

[Orange and Brown]

Is the Big East gonna make a play to become a 12 team football conference?

They have 15 or 16 teams for everything else.

[el savior]

They should try to become a 12 team football conference. (This would take a few years, maybe around 2014-2015, but it would be a huge step if you ask me) A Big East Championship game would then be added.

East/North

Pitt
UConn
Syracuse
Villanova
West Virginia
Rutgers

West/South

TCU
USF
UCF
Cincinnati
Houston
Lousiville

[Orange and Brown]

They should try to become a 12 team football conference. (This would take a few years, maybe around 2014-2015, but it would be a huge step if you ask me) A Big East Championship game would then be added.

East/North

Pitt
UConn
Syracuse
Villanova
West Virginia
Rutgers

West/South

TCU
USF
UCF
Cincinnati
Houston
Lousiville

I'm not sure Nove has any interest in moving up. They have a decent FCS program but I don't think it would strenthen the conference to add them for football.

The Big East has a hard enough time defending it's BCS status if they go and add a few okay to bad teams it just makes it harder to justify them being a BCS conference.Who knows though, Give the SEC a few more years and they will have 20 teams!

[el savior]

I'm not sure Nove has any interest in moving up. They have a decent FCS program but I don't think it would strenthen the conference to add them for football.

The Big East has a hard enough time defending it's BCS status if they go and add a few okay to bad teams it just makes it harder to justify them being a BCS conference.Who knows though, Give the SEC a few more years and they will have 20 teams!

Yeah, I don't think they want to move up either, but I think if they can get everyone else on board with it then, they will follow and make it 12. That's why I'm thinking 2014-2015, if it ever gets done. I personally think that Villanova could move up and compete, especially in the Big East.

[mister b]

Add 400 miles of travel both ways for both mens and womens sports and that is a big difference. I can understand TCU wanting in the Big East but not seeing it from the current members stand point. I do feel the conference will go to a championship game in football and I do feel that Villanova will join in the future.

[seofan_via_dublin]

They have to add teams to get to 12 before they can have a title game.

As for other current teams wanting to make the trip.
This opens an entire state to the Big East recruiting market.
Not just any state, but Texas.
An extra 800 miles of gas in the airplane once every two years in nearly all sports is no big deal,
When you weigh in the benefit of recruiting Texas knowing that your games are actually going to get airtime there.

[NYBuckeye96]

Welcome to the Big Least TCU! At least you are in a BCS Conference now.

So now the question is.......has the MWC improved itself at all or remained even?

MWC gains - Boise State, Nevada, Fresno State, possibly Hawaii
MWC losses - Utah, BYU, TCU

[NYBuckeye96]

Do you think the Big East is positioning itself to remain relevant in the event it is raided by the Big Ten and ACC in any conference expansion?

[Steely Dan]

Be careful what you wish for, and I'll leave it at that............