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MrFirstTake wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:49 am
SpeedKillz wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:44 am
Tjhtygeverve wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:11 pm :)


Saying Solon is a below avg. D1 school is NOT factual.

I follow all divisions’ regions and how each playoff team progresses each year via joeeitel.com.

Solon has easily made the playoffs at minimum 4x’s lately.
They are probably having a down year or affected By C-19 precautions.

Kirtland is well known to flex within their area for scrimmaging up (Kirtland Varsity —V— St. Iggy JV in the past) & scheduling other schools in the area during regular season to strengthen their team not to inflate computer points!

They do it to improve & there’s nothing wrong with that & it shows!

Yes, IHS would’ve beaten Solon, & they would’ve improved because of doing so.
Still missing a puzzle piece, @ IHS for me to feel like they’re ready for a title run.
They’ve got all they need.
They just gotta execute it all in a competitive game.

Do Tiger fans think the BYE week serves its purpose?
OR, if allowed, should IHS Schedule up and play during BYE WEEK against a bigger school to bring out the “Tiger Nasty” we’ve only seen glimpses of in games 1-2?

OR...

Will elongated playoffs prep IHS?!?!

WLR looks tough & so does CR/BACON.

It’s time to get ready TO GET TIGER NASTY!!!

BYE week or schedule an up game if allowed?
Speak UP Tiger fans!!

#GoTgo
From the perspective of an Ironton fan, I think there is legit foundation for some concern. Consistently overwhelming considerably underwhelming opposition is well and good. They are doing what they are supposed to do for better or worse, & they have had a chance to test a lot of recipes before drawing up a final playoff menu, BUT...there are also some things NOT happening consistently.

1. In game adversity
2. Esp last 3 weeks - a tone of no enthusiasm. Unfortunately just doing what they are supposed to do v this schedule seems to have created a almost ho hum vibe. Ya not seeing a lot of heads wagging and enthusiasm. There is almost an air of expectation - at least for now - for ovc teams to lay down and honestly, why would Ironton feel any differently? It's time to be honest, the OVC is TERRIBLE. I found myself worrying if any traces of complacency would set in in the first 6 to 7 weeks. I think you walk a fine line at the prep level when ya dealing w preparing 16/17 yr olds emotionally. In contrast per above you watch game film and there are really worrisome nuances. For example, in peake/Ironton game - 1st offensive play from scrimmage for Peake was a keeper that moved and developed so slowly, it honestly looked like a middle school team ran it. And Peake got 4 yards out of it. Not a big deal right? One outlier ( play) you say? Maybe. However when I watch teams like Kirtland these past few weeks, not only is their execution faster and more deliberate, but so is their opponents. Consistently.

Irontons execution and focus HAVE to improve. How do they do that down the stretch w a final 3 of Rock Hill, Chesapeake, South Point? Can they just flip a switch and acclimate to the potential adversity and almost CERTAIN emotion per a week 8/9 game after that final 3 and a buy? Those are gonna be HUGE questions going into the post season.

As far as using the buy week to schedule up - working from an assumption that is a logistical possibility, I would be all for it. I think Ironton is working under a precarious dynamic. It really lines them up to get caught imo. Dangerous.

I think any similarly related concern is legitimate.
Couldnt agree more. Hopefully they get a tough 1st and 2nd round playoff opponent that can hopefully push them to the wire or something. The past 2 or 3 weeks they have had kids injured so other kids have had to step in and start which could be a small piece for some of the penalties happening but it definitely needs to be cleaned up. Watching a gallipolis and ironton game back to back will make your head explode seriously so many penalties
I'm not sure my concern is regarding any roster issues as much as I am just real leary of how this team is gonna react to some real in game adversity. Lets face it, right now they are the bully, and although I do not fault them, the last couple the vibe/body language has been of a bully thats bored. Somewhere down the line someone is gonna smack the bully back, if it happens in an early round 👀 it's gonna be interesting to see how this group responds to that. If we see a scenario where the game is close, and it is decided by minimizing mistakes, like I have said, I think it's a really legit concern. RN its load management. Cruise control. Experimentation. In game development. Can they flip the switch and find the right combos in real time and execute? This team is loaded in talent. Well coached. Disciplined in their preperation but somewhat undisciplined on the field. They made some great changes and I have talked about the decision to bring Crawford up to DE w Duncan holdin it down on the other edge. Sidenote: (Angelo Washington is gonna be a star on defense kids.) Crawford has spent a lotta time in the other guys backfield off his edge. I think the staff learned against Kirtland last season, they had to get faster. They did that. This team has a lot of speed. If the execution matches up w the talent for names like Masters, McCall, Carter, Carpenter, West, Keyes, Washington, and they grow up from a focus standpoint and along w the experienced core and the All American, they can beat anybody. Any team in D5.

They gotta lock in & find a chip on their shoulder and fast.


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Re: Region 19

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I didn’t realize ALL of the names listed were dinged. I hope all will be back for playoffs:

TE duncan
T cochran
G Mccall
C White
G Boggs
T Cecil
Howell

Post covid, my work load schedule has changed & I’m only catching games in RT at about 65%.
Last couple of games I was VERY busy & doing other stuff and away from broadcast & didn’t realize, the injuries had mounted.

I also have less time to review each game.


Gotigersgo!


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Tjhtygeverve wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:37 am I didn’t realize ALL of the names listed were dinged. I hope all will be back for playoffs:

TE duncan
T cochran
G Mccall
C White
G Boggs
T Cecil
Howell

Post covid, my work load schedule has changed & I’m only catching games in RT at about 65%.
Last couple of games I was VERY busy & doing other stuff and away from broadcast & didn’t realize, the injuries had mounted.

I also have less time to review each game.


Gotigersgo!
The only starters out now are howell and duncan i believe


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Re: Region 19

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If you use regional rankings and put all the schools in this Region would look like this

1.Ironton
32. Bye

16.Coshocton
17.New Lex

9.Minford
24. South Point

8.Liberty Union
25.Utica

4. Bishop Ready
29.Bye

13.Portsmouth West
20.Zane Trace

12.Westfall
21.Piketon

5.Ridgewood
28.Bye

2.Columbus Academy
31.Bye

15.Oak Hill
18.Amanda Clearcreek

10. Wellston
23. Portsmouth

7.Northwest
26.Bye

3.Wheelersburg
30.Bye

14.Meigs
19.Cheasapeake

11.Johnstown-Monroe
22. Morgan

6.Harvest Prep
27.Bye

Just food for thought


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Re: Region 19

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How would they then decide who plays who?

For the 2nd round games


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If Northwest gets a bye then there's no relevancy to any of this. They should be seeded near the bottom


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If you go to OHSAA and click on region 19 theyre showing 25 team bracket with top 7 getting bye week.. dont know how updated it is but sounds accurate with some teams opting out


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I like mine better! You can't go on the computer points for only five games.
petesweaty wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:01 pm Here are my picks: (Wins by teams they defeated)
Top 7 get byes

1. Ironton (11)
2. Ridgewood (8)
3. Wheelersburg (9)
4. Columbus Academy (9)
5. Liberty Union (4)
6. Ready (8)
7. Harvest Prep (6)

8. Johnstown-Monroe (4)
9. Wellston (4)
10. Minford (5)
11. West (4)
12. Westfall (3)
13. Oak Hill (3)
14. Amanda-Clearcreek (0)
15. New Lexington (2)
16. Northwest (6)
17. Meigs (3)
18. Coshocton (2)
19. Zane Trace (1)
20. Piketon (1)
21 Chesapeake (1)
22. Portsmouth (0)
23. Morgan (0)
24. South Point (0)
25. Utica (0)

I have Liberty Union ahead of Ready because they beat them. Amanda is decent, but the teams teams they beat have yet to win. Northwest is lower because who they have to play. Harvest Prep beat Ready, but Ready hammered Academy. Minford ahead of West because they beat the Senators. Minford is ahead of Oak Hill even though the Oaks beat the Falcons. Mainly, because Minford has two decent wins.


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SWHITE2002 wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:21 pm If Northwest gets a bye then there's no relevancy to any of this. They should be seeded near the bottom
If i was northwest i would want to be the 8 seed and play utica in the first round and get an extra win instead of a bye week


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yabbadabbadoo wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:03 pm How would they then decide who plays who?

For the 2nd round games
Ohsaa.org has a bracket format on there


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SWHITE2002 wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:21 pm If Northwest gets a bye then there's no relevancy to any of this. They should be seeded near the bottom
It'll be interesting to see how the seeds line up with Harbin points. Obviously, Harbin points are not being used by the OHSAA this season but the easiest way to do research for seeding as a coach is to go to joeeitel.com to see schedules and other things.

I do believe a team like Northwest will/should be ranked far down due to playing in a tiny-school conference. You may also see a few other teams moved down a few spots or up a few spots by what coaches think of the conference the school plays in.


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Region 19
Predictions

1. Ironton
2. Ridgewood
3. Wheelersburg
4. Bishop Ready
5. Col Acad
6. Harvest Prep
7. Liberty Union
8. Wellston
9. Johnstown Monroe
10. Amanda Clearcreek
11. Minford
12. Portsmouth West
13. Oak Hill
14. Northwest
15. New Lexington
16. Coshocton
17. Westfall
18. Zane Trace
19. Chesapeake
20. Portsmouth
21. Meigs
22. Piketon
23. Morgan
24. South Point
25. Utica


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Re: Region 19

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MrFirstTake wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:08 pm
yabbadabbadoo wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:03 pm How would they then decide who plays who?

For the 2nd round games
Ohsaa.org has a bracket format on there

Thanks


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Re: Region 19

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I understand they are not using the normal points system just put it down on paper to see what it would look like.... We all know this is not what it is going to look like just wanted to look at it for some fun


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Re: Region 19

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EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:30 am Region 19
Predictions

1. Ironton
2. Ridgewood
3. Wheelersburg
4. Bishop Ready
5. Col Acad
6. Harvest Prep
7. Liberty Union
8. Wellston
9. Johnstown Monroe
10. Amanda Clearcreek
11. Minford
12. Portsmouth West
13. Oak Hill
14. Northwest
15. New Lexington
16. Coshocton
17. Westfall
18. Zane Trace
19. Chesapeake
20. Portsmouth
21. Meigs
22. Piketon
23. Morgan
24. South Point
25. Utica


If this would be the seedings here would be possible 2nd round matchups

1. Ironton would play the winner of 16.Coshocton-17.Westfall

2. Ridgewood would play the winner of 15.New Lexington-18.Zane Trace

3. Burg would play the winner of 14.Northwest-19.Chesapeake

4. Bishop Ready would play the winner of 13. Oak Hill-20.Portsmouth

5. Col. Academy would play winner of 12.Portsmouth West-21.Meigs

6. Harvest Prep would play winner of 11.Minford-22.Piketon

7. Liberty Union would play winner of 10.Amanda Clearcreek-23.Morgan

8. Wellston would play 25.Utica
9. Johnston Monroe would play 24. South Point. Winner of these two games would play each other in the second round



3RD round has some good potential matchups as well. Bishop Ready vs. Col. Academy. Winner of that will get Ironton in the regional semis.

Burg has a potential 3rd round matchup with Harvest Prep.


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Re: Region 19

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yabbadabbadoo wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:34 am
EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:30 am Region 19
Predictions

1. Ironton
2. Ridgewood
3. Wheelersburg
4. Bishop Ready
5. Col Acad
6. Harvest Prep
7. Liberty Union
8. Wellston
9. Johnstown Monroe
10. Amanda Clearcreek
11. Minford
12. Portsmouth West
13. Oak Hill
14. Northwest
15. New Lexington
16. Coshocton
17. Westfall
18. Zane Trace
19. Chesapeake
20. Portsmouth
21. Meigs
22. Piketon
23. Morgan
24. South Point
25. Utica


If this would be the seedings here would be possible 2nd round matchups

1. Ironton would play the winner of 16.Coshocton-17.Westfall

2. Ridgewood would play the winner of 15.New Lexington-18.Zane Trace

3. Burg would play the winner of 14.Northwest-19.Chesapeake

4. Bishop Ready would play the winner of 13. Oak Hill-20.Portsmouth

5. Col. Academy would play winner of 12.Portsmouth West-21.Meigs

6. Harvest Prep would play winner of 11.Minford-22.Piketon

7. Liberty Union would play winner of 10.Amanda Clearcreek-23.Morgan

8. Wellston would play 25.Utica
9. Johnston Monroe would play 24. South Point. Winner of these two games would play each other in the second round



3RD round has some good potential matchups as well. Bishop Ready vs. Col. Academy. Winner of that will get Ironton in the regional semis.

Burg has a potential 3rd round matchup with Harvest Prep.
I'd have Amanda a couple of spots lower and Westfall a few spots higher, but looks good otherwise.


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I wonder how much Clearcreek returns from last year


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Re: Region 19

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bman wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:39 am
yabbadabbadoo wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:34 am
EasternDspy wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:30 am Region 19
Predictions

1. Ironton
2. Ridgewood
3. Wheelersburg
4. Bishop Ready
5. Col Acad
6. Harvest Prep
7. Liberty Union
8. Wellston
9. Johnstown Monroe
10. Amanda Clearcreek
11. Minford
12. Portsmouth West
13. Oak Hill
14. Northwest
15. New Lexington
16. Coshocton
17. Westfall
18. Zane Trace
19. Chesapeake
20. Portsmouth
21. Meigs
22. Piketon
23. Morgan
24. South Point
25. Utica


If this would be the seedings here would be possible 2nd round matchups

1. Ironton would play the winner of 16.Coshocton-17.Westfall

2. Ridgewood would play the winner of 15.New Lexington-18.Zane Trace

3. Burg would play the winner of 14.Northwest-19.Chesapeake

4. Bishop Ready would play the winner of 13. Oak Hill-20.Portsmouth

5. Col. Academy would play winner of 12.Portsmouth West-21.Meigs

6. Harvest Prep would play winner of 11.Minford-22.Piketon

7. Liberty Union would play winner of 10.Amanda Clearcreek-23.Morgan

8. Wellston would play 25.Utica
9. Johnston Monroe would play 24. South Point. Winner of these two games would play each other in the second round



3RD round has some good potential matchups as well. Bishop Ready vs. Col. Academy. Winner of that will get Ironton in the regional semis.

Burg has a potential 3rd round matchup with Harvest Prep.
I'd have Amanda a couple of spots lower and Westfall a few spots higher, but looks good otherwise.
The seedings I got from another poster on here. I then got the brackets from OHSAA website. They have on there how every seed will matchup in every division.


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Re: Region 19

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This Ironton weak schedule scenario is getting old.As the one brother said to his younger brother at the start of the Little Giants movie (great family movie by the way) me being real good,makes you look real bad. :)


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Can’t wait till the Tigers wear out a team that the posters consider worthy.


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