CAM NEWTON CLEARED; FATHER SLAPPED ON THE WRIST BY NCAA

[Raiderball]

Best players in the country. Best coaches in the country.

[Raiderball]

What/when was the last SEC champion to lose in a BCS bowl game?

[The General]

Without question about the players and coaches...And all the varied schemes...And they just play faster on both sides of the ball,than lets say,the Big Ten. And the gap will get wider.

[Orestes]

When you pay straight cash, over-sign by 10-15 recruits per year, and have no academic standards, football rosters become easier to complete.

Remember when James Brooks (Auburn, NFL) was in trouble. He couldn't even write his own name. He didn't know how to read or write. He played at Auburn from 1977-1980. Somehow he worked his way through four years of classes. Not much has changed.

Billy Bob and Jesco Choad love to watch those guys play football and are very entertained. Though, they make sure they enter through the back door.

[Raiderball]

What/when was the last SEC champion to lose in a BCS bowl game?

[GAHS7462]

Well they are going to see even faster come Jan.10th. College football version of the basketball fast break. The Ducks.

[2trap_4ever]

I think that Mike Golic asked the perfect question about this whole problem, if Cam Newton wanted to go to Miss. State and it wasn't about money then why isn't he at Miss. State. Also, if it isn't about money for Cam lets see what he does in the off season, everyone knows he is out of Auburn for the NFL, sounds like it is about the money to him as well, not just his dad.

[farmer]

ESPN had a segment on Newton. From Florida to Auburn. Cam said he was going to go to Miss St but took a couple of weeks and descussed his options with his dad. They discussed the positives and negatives then Cam made his decision. That just brings up questions that the NCAA ruled that Cam didn't know about his dads activities.

[91blue14]

ESPN had a segment on Newton. From Florida to Auburn. Cam said he was going to go to Miss St but took a couple of weeks and descussed his options with his dad. They discussed the positives and negatives then Cam made his decision. That just brings up questions that the NCAA ruled that Cam didn't know about his dads activities.

yea i seen that today. that was an odd moment when he said he wanted to go to state

[The General]

I am just thankful that an upstanding Univerity like Ohio State in the last 10 years has not had any players accept extra money,no NCAA compliance issues,no free cars to drive around, no academic issues,no issues of institutional control.no players who mug anyone with a handgun,no robberies,no murdering recruits,no players who live in 3400 a month condos,no public drunkedness,no players who smoke pot outside their dorm,no illegal "Booster participation,are clean cut,all of them graduate...and many more. Same at YSU....thank goodness for that. Because you know an Ohio State fanatic,a true homer,would not stand for that because they refuse to throw stones in a glass house.They watch the Senator in action and get all fuzzy when they hear the Buckeye fight song played by tbdbitl and they would be appalled by that.

[seofan_via_dublin]

When issues have came up, they've been dealt with instead of sweeping them under the rug, something the SEC does all too often.
You seem to gave issues grasping this concept.

[The General]

AHHHHHH......I see...you are a clown dubs...and a hypocrate.....Homers like you are sickening.

[oak hill71]

Hell, the general, other SEC homer (not really worth my time to go back up the thread and look at the names on here), the SEC and the Big Ten have four bowl games against each other this year, so how about a friendly wager. Big Ten wins the series you change your picture to an Ohio State logo, if the SEC wins I'll change mine to whatever logo you please. We can use the National Chamionship as the tiebreaker.

[seofan_via_dublin]

AHHHHHH......I see...you are a clown dubs...and a hypocrate.....Homers like you are sickening.

Completely ignore the fact that I'm right, and name call.

You'd make one heck of a democrat!

[JChipwood]

Illegal is illegal regardless of the NCAA rulings and this isn't finished.............the feds work pretty slow! Extortion, solicitation, wire fraud.............. those things don't disappear with the FBI just with the NCAA in some cases. Demanding and asking for money is totally different than an envelope under your door or a handshake. According to the NCAA both are wrong but the handshakes have gone on for decades and are part of sports at most levels, even high school.......soliciting and extortion are not only stupid but very vane acts and with wire fraud, no money had to be passed just requested.

For me the final answer will be when Cam gets his payday from the nfl. Being that Cecil is generous enough to ask for $180k and give 100% of that money to a church, none for his family then I assume when Cam gets paid they will give a very generous donation to several churches or charity foundations, being the giving and generous person that he is. 100% of any amount is huge!!!! I'd say they will at least donate 30% - 50% to charities. If not, to me the whole story was a bunch of crap.

I don't blame Cam for having a shady dad and figure at some point Cam said, "dad wth?? I want to play ball, you need to stop!" Regardless, no money in the world enhanced his abilities on the field and god knows the school and NCAA made a ton of loot this year, some in part to Cam Newton. Kid's good and utilized as well as anyone in college football.

[farmer]

The FBI does not get involved for no reason. The FBI has no reason to rush their investigation since it may go to other schools as well as many people.

Cam may have a lot of talent but will that talent be as an NFL QB. He has skills but there have been many who can not make the change to the NFL Game. He will not be able to run as much. He will have to read defenses and blitzes. He is a talent but not worth the JaMarcus Russell money if he will not be at least a good starting QB. He does have value at other positions if he wants to.

[VIKED_MAN]

Illegal is illegal regardless of the NCAA rulings and this isn't finished.............the feds work pretty slow! Extortion, solicitation, wire fraud.............. those things don't disappear with the FBI just with the NCAA in some cases. Demanding and asking for money is totally different than an envelope under your door or a handshake. According to the NCAA both are wrong but the handshakes have gone on for decades and are part of sports at most levels, even high school.......soliciting and extortion are not only stupid but very vane acts and with wire fraud, no money had to be passed just requested.

For me the final answer will be when Cam gets his payday from the nfl. Being that Cecil is generous enough to ask for $180k and give 100% of that money to a church, none for his family then I assume when Cam gets paid they will give a very generous donation to several churches or charity foundations, being the giving and generous person that he is. 100% of any amount is huge!!!! I'd say they will at least donate 30% - 50% to charities. If not, to me the whole story was a bunch of crap.

I don't blame Cam for having a shady dad and figure at some point Cam said, "dad wth?? I want to play ball, you need to stop!" Regardless, no money in the world enhanced his abilities on the field and god knows the school and NCAA made a ton of loot this year, some in part to Cam Newton. Kid's good and utilized as well as anyone in college football.

So true. They (FBI) are seaching for any clues, especialy phone tapes, where Cam personally contacted Miss State or someone representing the Bulldogs in the Cam Newton saga.
I say it is just quiet for now, if something in the smallest amount can be found it will start again. Cam will be in the NFL, and the university (Auburn) should be cleared of any wrong doing.
Anyone who knows about Auburn football knows they have been caught with dirty hands before in NCVAA investagations. Two times I know of, and I believe if a third time is serious enough the "Death Penalty" is administered to the school in violation. Not sure how that works totally, but no football for 3 years; just ask SMU!