Coaching 101

[Cheerdad2020]

Learned a little bit of coaching psychology on Friday night. SV up by 1 with 55 seconds left 4th and 5 or so. Well the refs blow the game with a whistle after the kick was blocked and recovered. If I was coaching Symmes Valley I would or went absolutely nuts when they decided to redo the play because the bad call.

Instead Webb was angry but he realized if he had went nuts it would of been a penalty and gave Northwest the 1at down. Just thinking that was a good veteran coach love that most young coaches may miss.

One of the biggest hose jobs I seen. Keep in mind northwest did nothing wrong

[greygoose]

Learned a little bit of coaching psychology on Friday night. SV up by 1 with 55 seconds left 4th and 5 or so. Well the refs blow the game with a whistle after the kick was blocked and recovered. If I was coaching Symmes Valley I would or went absolutely nuts when they decided to redo the play because the bad call.

Instead Webb was angry but he realized if he had went nuts it would of been a penalty and gave Northwest the 1at down. Just thinking that was a good veteran coach love that most young coaches may miss.

One of the biggest hose jobs I seen. Keep in mind northwest did nothing wrong

You're saying the refs blew the whistle AFTER the kick was blocked and recovered?? That would just mean the play was over, it was an inadvertent whistle which typically happens just at the snap or mid play it's not something that is done after the fact. While most coaches get upset over it, most also know inadvertent whistles do happen and that play is started again. So it's not really a "hose" job, had it been the other way around, kid makes it 1st time and misses it the 2nd time then Northwest would've been calling it a "hose" job. Game was played at SV after all.

[mlittle]

Learned a little bit of coaching psychology on Friday night. SV up by 1 with 55 seconds left 4th and 5 or so. Well the refs blow the game with a whistle after the kick was blocked and recovered. If I was coaching Symmes Valley I would or went absolutely nuts when they decided to redo the play because the bad call.

Instead Webb was angry but he realized if he had went nuts it would of been a penalty and gave Northwest the 1at down. Just thinking that was a good veteran coach love that most young coaches may miss.

One of the biggest hose jobs I seen. Keep in mind northwest did nothing wrong

You're saying the refs blew the whistle AFTER the kick was blocked and recovered?? That would just mean the play was over, it was an inadvertent whistle which typically happens just at the snap or mid play it's not something that is done after the fact. While most coaches get upset over it, most also know inadvertent whistles do happen and that play is started again. So it's not really a "hose" job, had it been the other way around, kid makes it 1st time and misses it the 2nd time then Northwest would've been calling it a "hose" job. Game was played at SV after all.

The kick was blocked cleanly and there were no penalties. The problem was the officials blew the play dead after the ball was blocked and before anyone recovered it. From what I understand that should be a live ball. After the officials realized they shouldn’t have blown the play dead they replayed the down

[BigBlueNation]

Learned a little bit of coaching psychology on Friday night. SV up by 1 with 55 seconds left 4th and 5 or so. Well the refs blow the game with a whistle after the kick was blocked and recovered. If I was coaching Symmes Valley I would or went absolutely nuts when they decided to redo the play because the bad call.

Instead Webb was angry but he realized if he had went nuts it would of been a penalty and gave Northwest the 1at down. Just thinking that was a good veteran coach love that most young coaches may miss.

One of the biggest hose jobs I seen. Keep in mind northwest did nothing wrong

You're saying the refs blew the whistle AFTER the kick was blocked and recovered?? That would just mean the play was over, it was an inadvertent whistle which typically happens just at the snap or mid play it's not something that is done after the fact. While most coaches get upset over it, most also know inadvertent whistles do happen and that play is started again. So it's not really a "hose" job, had it been the other way around, kid makes it 1st time and misses it the 2nd time then Northwest would've been calling it a "hose" job. Game was played at SV after all.

The kick was blocked cleanly and there were no penalties. The problem was the officials blew the play dead after the ball was blocked and before anyone recovered it. From what I understand that should be a live ball. After the officials realized they shouldn’t have blown the play dead they replayed the down

That is exactly what happened. As soon as kick was blocked the whistle was blown.
There is actually 3 whistles blown, on the video I have you can even hear the guys in press box hollering it's a live ball.

[greygoose]

Learned a little bit of coaching psychology on Friday night. SV up by 1 with 55 seconds left 4th and 5 or so. Well the refs blow the game with a whistle after the kick was blocked and recovered. If I was coaching Symmes Valley I would or went absolutely nuts when they decided to redo the play because the bad call.

Instead Webb was angry but he realized if he had went nuts it would of been a penalty and gave Northwest the 1at down. Just thinking that was a good veteran coach love that most young coaches may miss.

One of the biggest hose jobs I seen. Keep in mind northwest did nothing wrong

You're saying the refs blew the whistle AFTER the kick was blocked and recovered?? That would just mean the play was over, it was an inadvertent whistle which typically happens just at the snap or mid play it's not something that is done after the fact. While most coaches get upset over it, most also know inadvertent whistles do happen and that play is started again. So it's not really a "hose" job, had it been the other way around, kid makes it 1st time and misses it the 2nd time then Northwest would've been calling it a "hose" job. Game was played at SV after all.

The kick was blocked cleanly and there were no penalties. The problem was the officials blew the play dead after the ball was blocked and before anyone recovered it. From what I understand that should be a live ball. After the officials realized they shouldn’t have blown the play dead they replayed the down

That a perfect explanation, because that's one I can see happening very easily because the play isn't dead until a recovery happens. Tough way to lose but as I tell my kid, everyone remembers that 1 play. We all seem to forget how many plays lead up to that point that if they were made could've changed the outcome as well. Everyone just gets fixated on the one and especially given it was an inadvertent whistle that was the cause.

[mlittle]

You're saying the refs blew the whistle AFTER the kick was blocked and recovered?? That would just mean the play was over, it was an inadvertent whistle which typically happens just at the snap or mid play it's not something that is done after the fact. While most coaches get upset over it, most also know inadvertent whistles do happen and that play is started again. So it's not really a "hose" job, had it been the other way around, kid makes it 1st time and misses it the 2nd time then Northwest would've been calling it a "hose" job. Game was played at SV after all.

The kick was blocked cleanly and there were no penalties. The problem was the officials blew the play dead after the ball was blocked and before anyone recovered it. From what I understand that should be a live ball. After the officials realized they shouldn’t have blown the play dead they replayed the down

That a perfect explanation, because that's one I can see happening very easily because the play isn't dead until a recovery happens. Tough way to lose but as I tell my kid, everyone remembers that 1 play. We all seem to forget how many plays lead up to that point that if they were made could've changed the outcome as well. Everyone just gets fixated on the one and especially given it was an inadvertent whistle that was the cause.

We had a play week one where Piketon center snaps ball over QB head and he turns around to run after it and when he went to fall on it before he even got to the ground they blew the play dead. When he fell he actually hurt his wrist and never really even attempted to get the ball. We recover it easily but it didn’t matter because the official already blew the play dead. Our QB did the same thing AT Adena last year and they blew the whistle early. Somehow it all equals out but that’s definitely a tough way to lose a game.

[Cheerdad2020]

thanks for clearing it up guys. Maybe it wasn't a hose job then.

[mlittle]

thanks for clearing it up guys. Maybe it wasn't a hose job then.

Definitely still a hose job

[Frank Reagan]

It is an error, not a hose job. Everyone makes mistakes, players, coaches and referees.

An old coaching axiom, if you leave the game close enough for the official to make a difference, you’ve got nobody to blame but yourself.

[Olddude03]

It is an error, not a hose job. Everyone makes mistakes, players, coaches and referees.

An old coaching axiom, if you leave the game close enough for the official to make a difference, you’ve got nobody to blame but yourself.

Sucks!!! But this is true

[thebarlowbandit]

thanks for clearing it up guys. Maybe it wasn't a hose job then.

Definitely still a hose job

You are a clown

[mlittle]

thanks for clearing it up guys. Maybe it wasn't a hose job then.

Definitely still a hose job

You are a clown

It happens man. It’s part of the game. Relax. The officials made a huge mistake it’s not hard to admit for most people, they are human. It influenced the outcome of the game. A team got hosed and I’m sure somewhere along the line they’ve been on the receiving end Of one of those so it typically all equals out in the end. You don’t have to defend every official from all criticism

[mlittle]

Do I think the officials intentionally hosed a team? NO. It happens. Most high school officials are regular guys like us with very minimal training. These things are bound to happen. Hell they happen in professional sports where they are making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year and do it full time with the best training. It’s unavoidable but so is the criticism when things like this happen.

[thebarlowbandit]

Do I think the officials intentionally hosed a team? NO. It happens. Most high school officials are regular guys like us with very minimal training. These things are bound to happen. Hell they happen in professional sports where they are making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year and do it full time with the best training. It’s unavoidable but so is the criticism when things like this happen.

I’d love to see you take a rules test right now and share your results! Those who can’t either teach or complain, which are you?

[mlittle]

Do I think the officials intentionally hosed a team? NO. It happens. Most high school officials are regular guys like us with very minimal training. These things are bound to happen. Hell they happen in professional sports where they are making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year and do it full time with the best training. It’s unavoidable but so is the criticism when things like this happen.

I’d love to see you take a rules test right now and share your results! Those who can’t either teach or complain, which are you?

I’m the complainer obviously.

Those who pretend referees never make mistakes are either biased or ignorant, which are you?

[thebarlowbandit]

I’m neither, just a realistic person who calls BS on those who think they are funny, but are really not.

[thebarlowbandit]

Do I think the officials intentionally hosed a team? NO. It happens. Most high school officials are regular guys like us with very minimal training. These things are bound to happen. Hell they happen in professional sports where they are making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year and do it full time with the best training. It’s unavoidable but so is the criticism when things like this happen.

I’d love to see you take a rules test right now and share your results! Those who can’t either teach or complain, which are you?

I’m the complainer obviously.

Those who pretend referees never make mistakes are either biased or ignorant, which are you?

If I was one though, you’d be putting a target on people with your arrogance

[mlittle]

I’d love to see you take a rules test right now and share your results! Those who can’t either teach or complain, which are you?

I’m the complainer obviously.

Those who pretend referees never make mistakes are either biased or ignorant, which are you?

If I was one though, you’d be putting a target on people with your arrogance

If I’m arrogant for stating officials make mistakes then you’re ignorant for saying they do not.

I think I know what you mean by target on people but I’d love to hear you explain it.

[mlittle]

I’m neither, just a realistic person who calls BS on those who think they are funny, but are really not.

Well it’s a good thing you’re on this site commenting on every single post that any poster makes even slightly mentioning an official could make a mistake.

And the answer is you are both

[thebarlowbandit]

I’m neither, just a realistic person who calls BS on those who think they are funny, but are really not.

Well it’s a good thing you’re on this site commenting on every single post that any poster makes even slightly mentioning an official could make a mistake.

And the answer is you are both

I just don’t like the crying. I’ll also defend coaches. People need to try accountability for themselves and their kids from time to time.