Extended Season??

[mlittle]

How do you figure? Flu is down 65% from last year. They estimate that more than 40 million have actually contracted the Covid 19 Virus. So that makes the Death percentage even lower! Also, people die, its a tragic thing, but people will always continue to die. For one reason or another. Cancer continues to kill millions of people but for some reason we have accepted that! For you to tell people that this or that means more then other deaths, than you are the main problem! People choose to live their lives and understand there are risks and consequences to everyday living. Shutting peoples lives down is not the answer. Scolding people on how they should feel is not the Answer!!! Kids are a low risk and the SCIENCE backs that up! SMH

Not to mention this is a seasonal virus just like the flu so regardless of any measures people take you’re still gonna see spikes in cases. Look at some of the areas who have the more stringent restrictions and lockdown measures where people are following all the rules. They’re still experiencing extreme increases in cases because of the season. Sorry everyone there is nothing h we can do about it. No matter who is wearing masks or washing hands or social distancing. This virus will run its course no matter what we do.

Seasonal virus? You can pull your head out of the sand.

There is no other logical explanation for the global spikes in cases during the traditional sick season. It’s common sense

[thebarlowbandit]

Not to mention this is a seasonal virus just like the flu so regardless of any measures people take you’re still gonna see spikes in cases. Look at some of the areas who have the more stringent restrictions and lockdown measures where people are following all the rules. They’re still experiencing extreme increases in cases because of the season. Sorry everyone there is nothing h we can do about it. No matter who is wearing masks or washing hands or social distancing. This virus will run its course no matter what we do.

Seasonal virus? You can pull your head out of the sand.

There is no other logical explanation for the global spikes in cases during the traditional sick season. It’s common sense

You need to stick to your day job!

[mlittle]

Seasonal virus? You can pull your head out of the sand.

There is no other logical explanation for the global spikes in cases during the traditional sick season. It’s common sense

You need to stick to your day job!

Unlike you I’m not trying to start an argument. I’d sincerely love to hear your theory on why the sudden global spikes have occurred during the cold season with such stringent mask orders in place.

[formerfcfan]

There is no other logical explanation for the global spikes in cases during the traditional sick season. It’s common sense

You need to stick to your day job!

Unlike you I’m not trying to start an argument. I’d sincerely love to hear your theory on why the sudden global spikes have occurred during the cold season with such stringent mask orders in place.

In the context of the United States, such as Ohio: it's been pretty cold since October, so congregate gatherings with friends and family members across households move indoors into each other's houses... and they do things like watch college football in living rooms with other people or have Sunday dinners all the while not wearing masks. Multiply those activities across however many people in Ohio do it, and factor it out against how often people have been doing those things for the past 2-3 months. Since these stringent mask orders you speak of obviously don't apply to people's houses, and given that these indoor congregate activities with people who don't live in the same house are exactly what public health experts tell us contributes to the spread of the coronavirus, we now have a phenomenon that we can attribute toward the rise in the case. These gatherings aren't the sole reason why we have spikes in cases, but it does contribute (big time) to the problem with spread.

[mlittle]

You need to stick to your day job!

Unlike you I’m not trying to start an argument. I’d sincerely love to hear your theory on why the sudden global spikes have occurred during the cold season with such stringent mask orders in place.

In the context of the United States, such as Ohio: it's been pretty cold since October, so congregate gatherings with friends and family members across households move indoors into each other's houses... and they do things like watch college football in living rooms bunched together without masks or have Sunday dinners. Multiply those activities across however many people in Ohio do it, and factor it out against how often people have been doing those things for the past 2-3 months. Since these stringent mask orders you speak of obviously don't apply to people's houses, and given that these indoor congregate activities with people who don't live in the same house are exactly what public health experts tell us contributes to the spread of the coronavirus, we now have a phenomenon that we can attribute toward the rise in the case. These gatherings aren't the sole reason why we have spikes in cases, but it does contribute (big time) to the problem with spread.

But it’s happening all over the globe in almost every country at the same time. That’s some seriously coordinated football party’s

[formerfcfan]

Unlike you I’m not trying to start an argument. I’d sincerely love to hear your theory on why the sudden global spikes have occurred during the cold season with such stringent mask orders in place.

In the context of the United States, such as Ohio: it's been pretty cold since October, so congregate gatherings with friends and family members across households move indoors into each other's houses... and they do things like watch college football in living rooms bunched together without masks or have Sunday dinners. Multiply those activities across however many people in Ohio do it, and factor it out against how often people have been doing those things for the past 2-3 months. Since these stringent mask orders you speak of obviously don't apply to people's houses, and given that these indoor congregate activities with people who don't live in the same house are exactly what public health experts tell us contributes to the spread of the coronavirus, we now have a phenomenon that we can attribute toward the rise in the case. These gatherings aren't the sole reason why we have spikes in cases, but it does contribute (big time) to the problem with spread.

But it’s happening all over the globe in almost every country at the same time. That’s some seriously coordinated football party’s

I specifically said "in the context of the United States, such as Ohio." There's no global "cold season" that happens simultaneously, because for starters it is not winter across the entire globe at a given time. Australia, for instance, has its "peak" cold and flu season in April through September/October because that is when their winter season is.

[mlittle]

In the context of the United States, such as Ohio: it's been pretty cold since October, so congregate gatherings with friends and family members across households move indoors into each other's houses... and they do things like watch college football in living rooms bunched together without masks or have Sunday dinners. Multiply those activities across however many people in Ohio do it, and factor it out against how often people have been doing those things for the past 2-3 months. Since these stringent mask orders you speak of obviously don't apply to people's houses, and given that these indoor congregate activities with people who don't live in the same house are exactly what public health experts tell us contributes to the spread of the coronavirus, we now have a phenomenon that we can attribute toward the rise in the case. These gatherings aren't the sole reason why we have spikes in cases, but it does contribute (big time) to the problem with spread.

But it’s happening all over the globe in almost every country at the same time. That’s some seriously coordinated football party’s

I specifically said "in the context of the United States, such as Ohio." There's no global "cold season" that happens simultaneously, because for starters it is not winter across the entire globe at a given time. Australia, for instance, has its "peak" cold and flu season in April through September/October because that is when their winter season is.

I meant more the cold season areas than entire planet

[mlittle]

You need to stick to your day job!

Unlike you I’m not trying to start an argument. I’d sincerely love to hear your theory on why the sudden global spikes have occurred during the cold season with such stringent mask orders in place.

In the context of the United States, such as Ohio: it's been pretty cold since October, so congregate gatherings with friends and family members across households move indoors into each other's houses... and they do things like watch college football in living rooms with other people or have Sunday dinners all the while not wearing masks. Multiply those activities across however many people in Ohio do it, and factor it out against how often people have been doing those things for the past 2-3 months. Since these stringent mask orders you speak of obviously don't apply to people's houses, and given that these indoor congregate activities with people who don't live in the same house are exactly what public health experts tell us contributes to the spread of the coronavirus, we now have a phenomenon that we can attribute toward the rise in the case. These gatherings aren't the sole reason why we have spikes in cases, but it does contribute (big time) to the problem with spread.

Wouldn’t flu cases be up as well if this theory were true tho? Seeing almost a 90% decline in flu cases as covid continues to spike. Personally I would think the flu numbers would be higher for the same reasons.

[formerfcfan]

Unlike you I’m not trying to start an argument. I’d sincerely love to hear your theory on why the sudden global spikes have occurred during the cold season with such stringent mask orders in place.

In the context of the United States, such as Ohio: it's been pretty cold since October, so congregate gatherings with friends and family members across households move indoors into each other's houses... and they do things like watch college football in living rooms with other people or have Sunday dinners all the while not wearing masks. Multiply those activities across however many people in Ohio do it, and factor it out against how often people have been doing those things for the past 2-3 months. Since these stringent mask orders you speak of obviously don't apply to people's houses, and given that these indoor congregate activities with people who don't live in the same house are exactly what public health experts tell us contributes to the spread of the coronavirus, we now have a phenomenon that we can attribute toward the rise in the case. These gatherings aren't the sole reason why we have spikes in cases, but it does contribute (big time) to the problem with spread.

Seeing almost a 90% decline in flu cases as covid continues to spike. Personally I would think the flu numbers would be higher for the same reasons.

It's important to consider that the presence and spread of COVID-19 doesn't mutually exclude the presence and spread of the flu. It is possible to have COVID and the flu simultaneously, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Mayo Clinic. COVID-19 and the flu both transmit the same way: through the air. However, the nature of the spread and contagiousness is understood to be greatly different between the two viruses. November 2020 guidance released by the CDC reports that asymptomatic or presymptomatic carriers of coronavirus/COVID are estimated to account for more than 50% of COVID transmissions. Per a peer-reviewed journal published on the The National Institutes of Health (NIH) website, "there is scant, if any, evidence that asymptomatic or presymptomatic individuals play an important role in influenza transmission." There are also differences in length of contagiousness: per Harvard Medical School, COVID-19 incubation lasts 3-14 days while the CDC reports that flu incubation normally lasts 3-7 days.

Wouldn’t flu cases be up as well if this theory were true tho?

Not necessarily, and here's the best explanation why not. Flu spread, as mentioned above, basically spreads when a person is obviously sick with something. They have symptoms of some viral infection. In a saga when it is currently impressed into everyone's consciousness "stay home if you're sick", people who are clearly sick will just stay home. Factor that out too against how many Americans are working from home instead of office buildings at pre-COVID capacities, and the fact people are markedly more vigilant currently about staying away from other ones if they feel sick compared to previous times, there's less vectors of spread with a virus known to spread almost exclusively through symptomatic carriers. Compare that against COVID-19 carriers, many of whom "feel fine" (asymptomatic) yet manage to spread it by letting their let guard down when they choose to associate with non-household members inside who also "feel fine" so many times over such a long period of time.

[Raiderball]

Think I'll start coming here for medical advice rather than seeing a doctor. Seem to have a lot of expert giving their opinions. Think of the $$$$$ I could save.
Just the flu? F*****G idiots.

[mlittle]

In the context of the United States, such as Ohio: it's been pretty cold since October, so congregate gatherings with friends and family members across households move indoors into each other's houses... and they do things like watch college football in living rooms with other people or have Sunday dinners all the while not wearing masks. Multiply those activities across however many people in Ohio do it, and factor it out against how often people have been doing those things for the past 2-3 months. Since these stringent mask orders you speak of obviously don't apply to people's houses, and given that these indoor congregate activities with people who don't live in the same house are exactly what public health experts tell us contributes to the spread of the coronavirus, we now have a phenomenon that we can attribute toward the rise in the case. These gatherings aren't the sole reason why we have spikes in cases, but it does contribute (big time) to the problem with spread.

Seeing almost a 90% decline in flu cases as covid continues to spike. Personally I would think the flu numbers would be higher for the same reasons.

It's important to consider that the presence and spread of COVID-19 doesn't mutually exclude the presence and spread of the flu. It is possible to have COVID and the flu simultaneously, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Mayo Clinic. COVID-19 and the flu both transmit the same way: through the air. However, the nature of the spread and contagiousness is understood to be greatly different between the two viruses. November 2020 guidance released by the CDC reports that asymptomatic or presymptomatic carriers of coronavirus/COVID are estimated to account for more than 50% of COVID transmissions. Per a peer-reviewed journal published on the The National Institutes of Health (NIH) website, "there is scant, if any, evidence that asymptomatic or presymptomatic individuals play an important role in influenza transmission." There are also differences in length of contagiousness: per Harvard Medical School, COVID-19 incubation lasts 3-14 days while the CDC reports that flu incubation normally lasts 3-7 days.

Wouldn’t flu cases be up as well if this theory were true tho?

Not necessarily, and here's the best explanation why not. Flu spread, as mentioned above, basically spreads when a person is obviously sick with something. They have symptoms of some viral infection. In a saga when it is currently impressed into everyone's consciousness "stay home if you're sick", people who are clearly sick will just stay home. Factor that out too against how many Americans are working from home instead of office buildings at pre-COVID capacities, and the fact people are markedly more vigilant currently about staying away from other ones if they feel sick compared to previous times, there's less vectors of spread with a virus known to spread almost exclusively through symptomatic carriers. Compare that against COVID-19 carriers, many of whom "feel fine" (asymptomatic) yet manage to spread it by letting their let guard down when they choose to associate with non-household members inside who also "feel fine" so many times over such a long period of time.

Thanks for the info. Very informative but I also don’t believe covid is spread through asymptomatic carriers. It’s been highly disputed amongst medical professionals and Fauci himself said he doesn’t think so either.

[mlittle]

Think I'll start coming here for medical advice rather than seeing a doctor. Seem to have a lot of expert giving their opinions. Think of the $$$$$ I could save.
Just the flu? F*****G idiots.

With that kind of attitude sir the only medical advice I’d give you is to mix you a stiff drink of bourbon and antifreeze.

[thebarlowbandit]

You need to stick to your day job!

Unlike you I’m not trying to start an argument. I’d sincerely love to hear your theory on why the sudden global spikes have occurred during the cold season with such stringent mask orders in place.

In the context of the United States, such as Ohio: it's been pretty cold since October, so congregate gatherings with friends and family members across households move indoors into each other's houses... and they do things like watch college football in living rooms with other people or have Sunday dinners all the while not wearing masks. Multiply those activities across however many people in Ohio do it, and factor it out against how often people have been doing those things for the past 2-3 months. Since these stringent mask orders you speak of obviously don't apply to people's houses, and given that these indoor congregate activities with people who don't live in the same house are exactly what public health experts tell us contributes to the spread of the coronavirus, we now have a phenomenon that we can attribute toward the rise in the case. These gatherings aren't the sole reason why we have spikes in cases, but it does contribute (big time) to the problem with spread.

I dare you actually comment with facts.

[thebarlowbandit]

Seeing almost a 90% decline in flu cases as covid continues to spike. Personally I would think the flu numbers would be higher for the same reasons.

It's important to consider that the presence and spread of COVID-19 doesn't mutually exclude the presence and spread of the flu. It is possible to have COVID and the flu simultaneously, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Mayo Clinic. COVID-19 and the flu both transmit the same way: through the air. However, the nature of the spread and contagiousness is understood to be greatly different between the two viruses. November 2020 guidance released by the CDC reports that asymptomatic or presymptomatic carriers of coronavirus/COVID are estimated to account for more than 50% of COVID transmissions. Per a peer-reviewed journal published on the The National Institutes of Health (NIH) website, "there is scant, if any, evidence that asymptomatic or presymptomatic individuals play an important role in influenza transmission." There are also differences in length of contagiousness: per Harvard Medical School, COVID-19 incubation lasts 3-14 days while the CDC reports that flu incubation normally lasts 3-7 days.

Wouldn’t flu cases be up as well if this theory were true tho?

Not necessarily, and here's the best explanation why not. Flu spread, as mentioned above, basically spreads when a person is obviously sick with something. They have symptoms of some viral infection. In a saga when it is currently impressed into everyone's consciousness "stay home if you're sick", people who are clearly sick will just stay home. Factor that out too against how many Americans are working from home instead of office buildings at pre-COVID capacities, and the fact people are markedly more vigilant currently about staying away from other ones if they feel sick compared to previous times, there's less vectors of spread with a virus known to spread almost exclusively through symptomatic carriers. Compare that against COVID-19 carriers, many of whom "feel fine" (asymptomatic) yet manage to spread it by letting their let guard down when they choose to associate with non-household members inside who also "feel fine" so many times over such a long period of time.

Thanks for the info. Very informative but I also don’t believe covid is spread through asymptomatic carriers. It’s been highly disputed amongst medical professionals and Fauci himself said he doesn’t think so either.

You sir are an idiot! Denying science. No wonder people cheered your decisions to move.

[mlittle]

It's important to consider that the presence and spread of COVID-19 doesn't mutually exclude the presence and spread of the flu. It is possible to have COVID and the flu simultaneously, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Mayo Clinic. COVID-19 and the flu both transmit the same way: through the air. However, the nature of the spread and contagiousness is understood to be greatly different between the two viruses. November 2020 guidance released by the CDC reports that asymptomatic or presymptomatic carriers of coronavirus/COVID are estimated to account for more than 50% of COVID transmissions. Per a peer-reviewed journal published on the The National Institutes of Health (NIH) website, "there is scant, if any, evidence that asymptomatic or presymptomatic individuals play an important role in influenza transmission." There are also differences in length of contagiousness: per Harvard Medical School, COVID-19 incubation lasts 3-14 days while the CDC reports that flu incubation normally lasts 3-7 days.




Not necessarily, and here's the best explanation why not. Flu spread, as mentioned above, basically spreads when a person is obviously sick with something. They have symptoms of some viral infection. In a saga when it is currently impressed into everyone's consciousness "stay home if you're sick", people who are clearly sick will just stay home. Factor that out too against how many Americans are working from home instead of office buildings at pre-COVID capacities, and the fact people are markedly more vigilant currently about staying away from other ones if they feel sick compared to previous times, there's less vectors of spread with a virus known to spread almost exclusively through symptomatic carriers. Compare that against COVID-19 carriers, many of whom "feel fine" (asymptomatic) yet manage to spread it by letting their let guard down when they choose to associate with non-household members inside who also "feel fine" so many times over such a long period of time.

Thanks for the info. Very informative but I also don’t believe covid is spread through asymptomatic carriers. It’s been highly disputed amongst medical professionals and Fauci himself said he doesn’t think so either.

You sir are an idiot! Denying science. No wonder people cheered your decisions to move.

You might be right! All the sciencers in Piketon were glad to see me go

I’ve never denied science. It’s a literal scientific fact that asymptomatic carriers are never the cause of the spread of any virus. Especially not at a pandemic level. You can look up Fauci’s you tube video explaining the very thing. But I’m wasting my time with you because you really aren’t interested in anything but insulting people.

[thebarlowbandit]

Thanks for the info. Very informative but I also don’t believe covid is spread through asymptomatic carriers. It’s been highly disputed amongst medical professionals and Fauci himself said he doesn’t think so either.

You sir are an idiot! Denying science. No wonder people cheered your decisions to move.

You might be right! All the sciencers in Piketon were glad to see me go

I’ve never denied science. It’s a literal scientific fact that asymptomatic carriers are never the cause of the spread of any virus. Especially not at a pandemic level. You can look up Fauci’s you tube video explaining the very thing. But I’m wasting my time with you because you really aren’t interested in anything but insulting people.

You are so full of crap!

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... T78kaSSAoB

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What you believe is true of Covid and what is fact is two different things. This is not the flu and can be contacted through asemtimatic people, read the science.

[mlittle]

You sir are an idiot! Denying science. No wonder people cheered your decisions to move.

You might be right! All the sciencers in Piketon were glad to see me go

I’ve never denied science. It’s a literal scientific fact that asymptomatic carriers are never the cause of the spread of any virus. Especially not at a pandemic level. You can look up Fauci’s you tube video explaining the very thing. But I’m wasting my time with you because you really aren’t interested in anything but insulting people.

You are so full of crap!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... IdrEHT5TMl

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... T78kaSSAoB

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... 3UL-53A_wu

What you believe is true of Covid and what is fact is two different things. This is not the flu and can be contacted through asemtimatic people, read the science.

Oh. You mean the science that changes when it states something that doesn’t go with the narrative? Hahaha cdc and who both admit early that asymptomatic carriers aren’t the issue and masks do nothing. My my how the times have changed

[Bozo]

I back mlittle in this discussion.

[mlittle]

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[Football_fanatic]

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