JIM TRESSEL HAS RESIGNED!!!!

[KVDW]

When he showed up last night with the new car and the 30 day tags, he was all but flaunting his disrespect of all things OSU and NCAA. If he had the talent, he might be the most hated athlete in the Buckeye State since James took HIS talents to South Beach.

As for my preaching days, if Billy Sunday couldnt do anything with prohibition and bootleggers in Chicago, I doubt if an old man living in Boondocks, Ohio can have any influence on the morals and ethics of today's pro athletes.

BTW, I lied. I havent been to a pro of DI college game since the early 2000s.

certainly not with an attitude like that but you could maybe have an influence on the kids that read the drivel on here and will soon be of college age and perhaps tempted with those same types of things as TP et al. Besides, i thought we were talking about college athletes here not pro.

and BTW.... i have NEVER been to a pro game.... wouldn't walk across the street to see one if they gave me a free ticket on the 50 and the last DI college game I went to was in the mid 50s.... at OSU.... Dave Leggett was the QB for OSU.

[KVDW]

oops.... make that the EARLY 50s.

From wikipedia:
am David "Dave" Leggett (born September 18, 1933 in New Philadelphia, Ohio) is a former American football quarterback in the National Football League.[1] He played collegiately at Ohio State University from 1952–1954. In 1954 he led Ohio State to an undefeated 10–0 season and a berth in the Rose Bowl, where Ohio State defeated USC and Leggett was named MVP.[2] He was drafted by the Chicago Cardinals in the 7th round (74th overall) of the 1955 NFL Draft.[3]

Leggett was most famous for his play in the 1954 Michigan game. Ohio State's undefeated season was on the line, with the score tied 7–7 in the fourth quarter. Michigan was on the Ohio State one yard line with a fourth down and went for it. Michigan pitched the ball to the right and on defense Leggett was a great safety and it was only him and the Michigan ball carrier at the end zone and as the Michigan back leaped for the end zone Leggett went for his legs and flipped the Michigan man over to stop him short of the end zone. With the ball on Ohio State's own one-yard-line, Leggett led the Buckeyes on a drive for the eventual game-winning touchdown.[4]

[FANOSPORTS]

I've got (2) 1954-Dave Leggett autograph's from the TK Legacy card set issued a few years back. I wonder if I'd get in trouble if I sold them to the current group of Buckeyes so they could trade them for tattoos or any other things. I've also got auto's from the other 5 National championship QB's (1942-George Lynn, 1957- Frank Kremblas, 1961- John Mummey, 1968-1970- Rex Kern and 2002 Craig Krenzel). Maybe I could get a bowl game ticket or a Michigan game good seat for these ?

Note: I could throw in auto's of Archie Griffin, Jack Tatum, Corny Greene and Art Schlichter if the seats are good enough.

[Steely Dan]

Hey FOS, if you are throwing things into the deal, why don't you throw a valid drivers license in as well for TP, since his is suspended, and has been for awhile. Of course, that didn't stop him from driving the "bling bling" mobile to Fawcett Center today, now did it?

Wow, way to bring more negative attention upon yourself, first, the car, and now it comes to light that your license has been suspended for no insurance for how long? Oh boy, the downhill slide is getting ready to ramp up!

[schenk11]

Here a problem if he tells the university the Media gets wind of it and the FBI case is blown. So now Tressel would be responsible for tipping off a drug dealer that he is about to be busted. So instead he takes lesser of two evils and buries it.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

The guilty justifying there actions. You have got to be kidding me. If he would of told the compliance office his players were selling stuff for tattoos, how would that have tipped off a drug dealer concerning the FBI investigation? He could have left that part of the talk out with the compliance office, and just reported his players wrong doing. He loyalty should have been with tOSU, not his cheating players.

I will admit the rules are stupid, but they are the rules. And they need to be followed, especially for a man who spent most of his head coaching career talking about integrity, morals, and doing the right thing.

[KVDW]

Note: I could throw in auto's of Archie Griffin, Jack Tatum, Corny Greene and Art Schlichter if the seats are good enough.

he'll give you 10 to 1 odds on the michigan game.....

[Charge]

I've got (2) 1954-Dave Leggett autograph's from the TK Legacy card set issued a few years back. I wonder if I'd get in trouble if I sold them to the current group of Buckeyes so they could trade them for tattoos or any other things. I've also got auto's from the other 5 National championship QB's (1942-George Lynn, 1957- Frank Kremblas, 1961- John Mummey, 1968-1970- Rex Kern and 2002 Craig Krenzel). Maybe I could get a bowl game ticket or a Michigan game good seat for these ?

Note: I could throw in auto's of Archie Griffin, Jack Tatum, Corny Greene and Art Schlichter if the seats are good enough.

FANOSPORTS, if you have sold all this stuff, you better save the money. You may have to use it to bail WVU's coach in waiting out of jail. Heard he got thrown out of the dog track and was banned from several Morgantown bars.

[seofan_via_dublin]

This yellow journalism stuff needs to STOP!
The reporters are doing their jobs, something that Tress failed to do, which is why the reporters are in town.

It comes down to this:
1) a group of players failed to follow rules
2) their failures put Tress in a position where he had to make a tuff decision.
3) Tressel chose to not report to the AD and NCAA
4) Tressel lied about what he knew on multiple occasions.
5) The NCAA found out!

The players are 100% responsible for skirting the rules, even when they knew what was wrong!

Tressel is 100% responsible for his failures in not reporting and lying!

The reporters wouldn't have issues to report if accountability had been installed and maintained.
I can't fault a reporter for doing their job, but I can blame a lot of people for failing to do theirs!!

Without investigative journalism, we would have a ton more corruption in this world.
Also, I don't like the reporters nosing around, but show me where they have reported false info!

[Raiderball]

We all know there's not a school out there that hasn't broken rules somewhere or another. That's why you haven't nor won't see me jumping on the USC/Auburn/OSU being cheaters. Hell, my school could be next. Bottom line is if Tressell reports the tatoo for memorabilia info like he should have the rest of this info more than likely would not have been uncovered. Protecting his players.... that's BS and we all know it.
I'm sure I will be attacked and bashed for this comment but IMO Tressell is nothing but a fraud.

[Raiderball]

I've got (2) 1954-Dave Leggett autograph's from the TK Legacy card set issued a few years back. I wonder if I'd get in trouble if I sold them to the current group of Buckeyes so they could trade them for tattoos or any other things. I've also got auto's from the other 5 National championship QB's (1942-George Lynn, 1957- Frank Kremblas, 1961- John Mummey, 1968-1970- Rex Kern and 2002 Craig Krenzel). Maybe I could get a bowl game ticket or a Michigan game good seat for these ?

Note: I could throw in auto's of Archie Griffin, Jack Tatum, Corny Greene and Art Schlichter if the seats are good enough.

FANOSPORTS, if you have sold all this stuff, you better save the money. You may have to use it to bail WVU's coach in waiting out of jail. Heard he got thrown out of the dog track and was banned from several Morgantown bars.

DH has screwed up but, YOU ARE READING TO MUCH CHUCK LANDON BS.

[Yossarian]

As I see it the problem begins with recruiting the prima donna's of the world. You know who they are the kids with talent that are swooned over by everyone, and I mean everyone, including every coach on the way up. Can you win at this level without them? NO. Strike One..Second, if you get them or some underprivelidged kid, do you coddle them and try to save them from a tough home life or some other problem? Many coaches do. In this case it seems obvious Tressel made a huge mistake in that regard. If you let them play by a different set of rules will it come back to bite you in the arse, YOU BET, I've seen it over and over again, and almost always when you need them the most, they will let you down because they have no character, just talent, Strike two. Third, the rules ARE stupid. Did getting a tat give the some sort of competitive advantage? NO! Does the NCAA want you to play TP because of money. It's all about the money! Strike Three...

[JChipwood]

^^ I agree. A bunch of dumb decisions by kids caused JT to be put into a situation that he handled very poorly. He lied and that cost him his job much like it would you or I. That is part of life and it is what it is but nothing more. Cheating to me is gaining a competitive advantage and by no means did tOSU get an advantage by any of the benefits given to the kids. Now the University will most likely suffer because of poor decisions by kids and a coaches rep will forever be tarnished. I'll say this, he didn't ask to be called the "Senator", the media bestowed this title on him and now that same media has turned their backs and are making a living running his name through the mud. The whole situation leaves a horrible taste in the mouths of fans like me. Although JT won lots of games, he also lost winnable games due to gameplanning and his coaching style and loyalties to his longtime friends (Bollman & Dick Tressell) but I was always proud to say he was my coach because of the upside he provided with "doing things the right way" and "molding kids into good men" but of course now that seems all but window dressing. To me his strength was never x and o football but moreover his morals and recruiting better talent than 98% of the teams tOSU played.

I do fear that with too much time on campus many other sports programs at tOSU will suffer because I am sure that even women's field hockey gets some perks not allowable under the silly NCAA rules.

[Charge]

I don't believe Tressel was trying to do what was best for his players. If a tat is more important to them then the gold pants, they shouldn't be on the team anyway. I also don't believe Tressel was the only one who knew. I would bet that Gene Smith and Gordon Gee both knew. Tressel is just staring in the old Lee Major show Fall Guy!

[JChipwood]

You know Gene knew and probably Gordon Gee(k) too!! He is most certainly the fall guy. Good post charge....

I am getting tired of the assumptions as to what JT was thinking or trying to do, we don't know and nobody except JT will even know the thought process nor does it really matter. Bottom line is that he lied about the findings and is no longer coaching football for tOSU.

[wink]

Third, the rules ARE stupid. Did getting a tat give the some sort of competitive advantage? NO! ...... Strike Three...

As I understand it, I don't think getting the tats was the "stupid" rule that was broken. If tats are against the rules then I wouldn't expect to see 6 total players on the field this fall from all of the Big Ten. They bartered for them with sacred OSU materials given to them as a badge of honor and accomplishment and not to be used as/for money and that is the rule they violoated.... and a very good one IMO.

[wink]

I thought Myles Brand was bad!

Where do they come up with these names? Do they change their real names when they turn 18 ?

Myles Brand sounds like a western movie starring Randolph Scott.

Urban Myer sounds like a description of Cleveland.

Jim Tressell sounds like something a train runs over.... (well at least this one is accurate).

[dazed&confused]

Tressel was a good, sound fundamental football coach. But you need marquis players to win in major college football. For anyone to think that will change with these revelations is pure folly. You want to win Big 10 championships and compete annually in BCS games, than you're going to deal with these same issues. Otherwise, the "idiots" who feel entitled and can make plays that win ballgames will go on to the next bidder. If the thought of that makes you feel creepy, get ready to take a hot shower or make reservations for the Bluebonnet Bowl. As for Tress, the only thing I hold against him was his wearing his Christianity on his sleeve while probably knowing this stuff was going on and casting a blind eye to it. As King James said, "Karma is a b____."

[dazed&confused]

Oh, and I hope Thad Matta is paying attention to this. no one I know of has yet asked his opinion on what is happening with the football program. Wide-ranging sanctions could bring repercussions to his program, too.

[Yossarian]

Third, the rules ARE stupid. Did getting a tat give the some sort of competitive advantage? NO! ...... Strike Three...

As I understand it, I don't think getting the tats was the "stupid" rule that was broken. If tats are against the rules then I wouldn't expect to see 6 total players on the field this fall from all of the Big Ten. They bartered for them with sacred OSU materials given to them as a badge of honor and accomplishment and not to be used as/for money and that is the rule they violoated.... and a very good one IMO.

I agree wholeheartedly that I also consider the materials sacred. They did not. I guess success breeds contempt. If they had say one pair of pants would they have sold them? Just more evidence that you should never, ever let any kid dodge the rules of a team or any other organization. I would suspect however that there may be a legal question whether the NCAA can dictate to any citizen if they can or cannot sell anything that is rightfully their posession. Misguided as they are they are still citizens and have rights under the constitution. The NCAA may be involved in more congressional hearings going forward.

[JChipwood]

Another good point, not that it will matter anytime soon but a valid point. I would further add that there is a huge difference in incentives earned (rings and gold pants) in comparison to gifts given that were technically university property (helmets/jerseys). Ebay has a pretty good selection of gameworn jerseys that were not incentive based items rather given to the players but actually university property just useless property after being worn.