OSU football summer prep.

[CLane]

I guess I'm not sold on any of the QBacks. I watched Miller in a few high school games on TV. He's talented/athletic but a big step down from Pryor in that department. He looked good in the spring game but still completely raw and unproven. I think all the hype is just a little wishful thinking from the Buckeye faithful after a very troubling 2011.

Bauserman is the obvious choice for the starting job at the beginning of practice. He has the maturity and more game experience. Does he have the upside of Miller?...obviously not. But I think he'll be solid if he is the choice.

The Bucks have the talent to make another BCS run but I think Wisconsin is the team to beat. If we win less than 9 games this year, it will be a major surprise to me and a major disappointment. I hope I'm heading to Indianapolis at the beginning of December to watch the Buckeyes win their first (of many) Big 10 Championship Games!

[91blue14]

i was at practice yesterday and bauserman got all the first team reps. while miller was the last to see any action of the quarterbacks. the offense has a long way to go they didnt move the ball very well.

[Bleeding Red]

i was at practice yesterday and bauserman got all the first team reps. while miller was the last to see any action of the quarterbacks. the offense has a long way to go they didnt move the ball very well.

Not good news.

I hope Fickell is smart enough to see the sharks in the water and know that he has to have a very good season to keep his job. Lets face it, if and when the NCAA does not add new sanctions other than what OSU has already done to themselves, there will be big name coaches putting their name in the hat.

If Fickell is stupid enough to have loyalty to a guy like Bauserman, he is in trouble. Miller was far better than everyone else in the spring game. Surely he has learned most of the playbook in the past 4 months. Why Fickell would not get him ready to play the first 3 games for "experience" is beyond me.

But again, we dont see them everyday in practice!

[seofan_via_dublin]

Miller has not learned the playbook, by his own account, he has the running plays down but only about 25% of the pass plays.

He said the routes are confussing at times, and there are so many pass options that it may take him a while to master the playbook.

Also, I'm curious. Saturday's practice was a closed two-a-day. How did you attend a closed practice. Please don't take it personal, I'm not calling you out at all, just wondering.

[Bleeding Red]

Miller has not learned the playbook, by his own account, he has the running plays down but only about 25% of the pass plays.

He said the routes are confussing at times, and there are so many pass options that it may take him a while to master the playbook.

Also, I'm curious. Saturday's practice was a closed two-a-day. How did you attend a closed practice. Please don't take it personal, I'm not calling you out at all, just wondering.

Do you think Miller is better with a vanilla playbook, especially given the first 2 games against Akron and Toledo, than Bauserman is with virtually no game experience but can recite the pass routes of each play?

I think I like ability over knowledge. I understand it takes both at the D1 level to be successful, but Miller can gain the knowledge. I dont see D1 Big Ten ability with Bauserman, really never have. He is a Justin Zwick prototype that unfortunately cannot run out of the pocket. Maybe not even as good of passer as Zwick was.

[seofan_via_dublin]

I don't like Joe either, just answering your statement about Miller having learned the playbook over 4 months.

Frankly, given the horrible O-Line, Miller or Guiton should start. I think Miller is better than Guiton.

If we had a good O-Line, that could give our QB time to read and make throws from the pocket, then Taylor Grhamn is the best option!

Either way, the Offense is going to revolve around the deepest running back group in the NCAA.

[91blue14]

Miller has not learned the playbook, by his own account, he has the running plays down but only about 25% of the pass plays.

He said the routes are confussing at times, and there are so many pass options that it may take him a while to master the playbook.

Also, I'm curious. Saturday's practice was a closed two-a-day. How did you attend a closed practice. Please don't take it personal, I'm not calling you out at all, just wondering.

i am a college football official. i have been doing ohio state practices and scrimmages for three years now.

berry and jordan hall has been running with the first string. while rod smith and hyde getting some back up reps.

graham doesnt look all that bad a little slow but can deliver the ball.

the defensive line looks awesome but storm klein is too slow to play middle linebacker.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Cool, thanks for the explanation.

[seofan_via_dublin]

That Middle LB spot will likely belong to Curtis Grant or Sabino when the dust finally settles.

Oh, what was the count on how many F Bombs Mike Vrable dropped while you were there? Lol

[91blue14]

vrabel is very intense. a big fight broke out between the oline and dline only dick tressel tried to break it up and even he got throwed around a little bit. there is no love loss between the offense and defense.

well after talking with vrabel he is pretty high on storm klein calling the defense. sabino is playing strong side LB while sweat is at the weakside.

[seofan_via_dublin]

Maybe our D Line can finally make the O Line angry enough to actually block!!! Lol

[seofan_via_dublin]

As of today, Bouserman is taking the #1 snaps and Miller the #2.

There is less of a gap between Bouserman and Miller, than there is between Miller and Guiton at #3!

Joe and Braxton have separated themselves, and it was reported today that Bouserman is showing "more snap" on his mid range throws. Joe is also ahead in the confidence and leadership in the huddle categories, which is what is putting him ahead of Miller.

Fickle said today that Saturday's jersey scrimmage will go a long way towards establishing who gets the first team snaps moving forward in the last week of camp before game week.

[91blue14]

fickle has a big decision to make on this one.

do you where marcus freeman is?

[seofan_via_dublin]

Kent St. He left to be an assistant with coach Darrell Hazell.

[Peake]

IF MIller is the starter this could be a very long year for the bucks. Kid is not ready and nowhere near the same level of player at TP.

[Bleeding Red]

IF MIller is the starter this could be a very long year for the bucks. Kid is not ready and nowhere near the same level of player at TP.

It will be a long year if Miller starts. He gives them a much better chance to play in the Big Ten Champ game, late season bowl game, etc. LOL

[Peake]

Maybe you should go back and watch what has happened to UM when they have to start inexperienced QB's. Adam Rittenberg said that buckeye fans will be majorly disappointed if they think Miller is TP.

IMO Miller doesn't give you a best chance to run the table in the big ten. Just a year ago he was playing high school ball against high school defenses.

[Bleeding Red]

Maybe you should go back and watch what has happened to UM when they have to start inexperienced QB's. Adam Rittenberg said that buckeye fans will be majorly disappointed if they think Miller is TP.

IMO Miller doesn't give you a best chance to run the table in the big ten. Just a year ago he was playing high school ball against high school defenses.

So I take that as a negative, Ghost Rider.....you didnt watch what Miller did against the starting D in the spring game....

And really, Miller isnt Forcier, or others who have started at UM as a freshman. Completely different style of QB's. I dont think anyone expects Miller to be TP. Hopefully, he will be a better passer and we know he will be able to make plays with his feet. Pryor didnt play lights out his first few starts, but developed quickly. If Miller can do the same, he will be fine.

One thing is certain: I will be at the opener on Sept 3rd and I hope to see Miller and NOT Bauserman!

[seofan_via_dublin]

Michigan's problems were not with young QBs, they were with sn undersized O-Line and an absolutely horrible defense.

Two problems we do not have!

[JChipwood]

Pryor couldn't and probably still can't hit the short and intermediate routes consistantly which is something Miller is capable of without question. The mental side of the game is my only concern but no question Miller is WAY ahead of where TP was in all phases of the game if comparing them their frosh years, except of course in terms of size and speed. NO WAY it takes Miller 3 years on the field to get to the mental level TP is at right now....lol I'd say at most a full season to be able to make the reads and get the ball out much quicker than we ever saw from TP. TP was still a work in progress after nearly 3 years starting, especially between the ears and mechanically. TP was a good runner but even at that had moments when he didn't try to get extra yards, didn't turn it up field, and didn't try to explode out of the gate. He did have a great stiff arm and was a proven winner, but never in my mind was he a really good qb much less a great qb. If healthy, Miller's play will far exceed that of TP. Whether or not it shows in the w/l column is not totally on Braxton but in the end I don't think you will be hearing NFL teams concerned about switching Miller's position or being a "possible" pick in a supplemental draft. TP won a game with his feet his frosh year and helped the team win other games but wasn't nearly as advertised by all the talking heads in the media. All we have factual so far is that Miller was a much better hs QB against MUCH tougher competition than TP faced.

I agree UM had much bigger issues that young QBs, actual Forcier was a bright spot on the team at times.