Michigan Football Recruiting 2013

[seofan_via_dublin]

Nothing really would come of it. Just further insurance that education on the matter will come.

Question is, did UM self report it, or did a journalist notice it, write about it, and the NCAA pick up on it without UM doing anything.

Schools on probation can't commit major violations. This would be 2 secondary. It shouldn't be an issue too much.

[Peake]

Secondary violation = minor to nothing. UM is not going to get in anything over this. Silly to think otherwise.

They weren't found guilty of 4 major violations either. 5 were claimed and only one was proven, thus leading to probation.

UM got kids with OSU offers, that is not just getting volume, and most of all he is going right into Columbus and getting them. 3 s-tars, 4 kids in the top 50, and 8 are in the top 150, and 12 of 14 are in the top 300. Play it down all you want, Hoke is killing the midwest. IF Hoke gets Issacs, he successfully landed the #1 RB and #1 QB.

BTW, Thomas is going nowhere. He has already told Meyer several times. He was in AA two weeks ago with Shane who he is rooming with. Not happening.

[Peake]

BTW OSU is next to get the violation slapped on them.

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I was also told that UM will self report. All this means is compliance sends out a letter and coaches will review rules with the violators.

[VegasEagle]

Secondary violation = minor to nothing. UM is not going to get in anything over this. Silly to think otherwise.

They weren't found guilty of 4 major violations either. 5 were claimed and only one was proven, thus leading to probation.

UM got kids with OSU offers, that is not just getting volume, and most of all he is going right into Columbus and getting them. 3 s-tars, 4 kids in the top 50, and 8 are in the top 150, and 12 of 14 are in the top 300. Play it down all you want, Hoke is killing the midwest. IF Hoke gets Issacs, he successfully landed the #1 RB and #1 QB.

BTW, Thomas is going nowhere. He has already told Meyer several times. He was in AA two weeks ago with Shane who he is rooming with. Not happening.

Peake I agree 100% with you Hoke is getting these kids from ohio and killing it.... BUT Meyer is Going to go down South and is picking bigger and faster kids from Florida,Georgia and Bama.... Something Hoke cant do....

[seofan_via_dublin]

Quantity.

Like I said, to date OSU's worst recruit is ranked higher than 10 of UM's guys.

[C-Bolt]

The way these kids flip flop now days, way to early to say who's killing it,a lot of things can happen between now and then so I take recruiting with a grain of salt this early and a lot of kids might not pan out there seniors years,anybody remember a guy named Roger Lewis and the guy from Don Bosco? They are just the tip of the iceberg for big recruits that get flushed down the drain before they even get to college and some of them shortly after they arrived like Clarett and this guy that just got booted from Marshall, what a shame!

[Peake]

Of course, OSU is better, how foolish of me to think otherwise.

Remember Urban Meyer had a losing record against Saban and was .500 against Miles. Excuse me because for not being delusional. Pardon us for recruiting very very well. 9 of our 14 are 4-star or higher, 7 of the 14 had OSU offers, no quality at all.

[VegasEagle]

Of course, OSU is better, how foolish of me to think otherwise.

Remember Urban Meyer had a losing record against Saban and was .500 against Miles. Excuse me because for not being delusional. Pardon us for recruiting very very well. 9 of our 14 are 4-star or higher, 7 of the 14 had OSU offers, no quality at all.

What does Urban Meyer and His two National Championships losing to Great Nick Saban and Les miles teams In the Toughest Conf. in college football have to at all with Recruiting??????? So you have started off good and took a couple kids from Ohio..........WOW like this has never happened come on Peake we all know you have a good class right now but what Took Hoke to do all year last took Meyer a Month and some change....Stop getting all butt hurt buddy What do you expect on here like I said it 90% OSU FANS

[Peake]

I am beginning to think we have a troll problem on a UM thread that is turning into an OSU thread.

I bring up his losing record to Saban and .500 record to Miles because of the acts of worshiping that are going on with certain OSU fans. Good for Urban Meyer that he won two national titles, it has nothing to do with where he is at now. Those national championships say Florida on them (as you should know), so until I see one with OSU's name engraved in it excuse me for not kissing his feet. I respect him, but I don't want to hear about him on a Michigan thread or how he is going to get better players out of Florida, which at this point is hardly proven.

HEre is the problem you are your buckeye friends fail to see. If you are going to be successful in the Big Ten, your base has to be the midwest. Not Florida. I am sorry but even the great Urban Meyer is not going to go pull 10 top 20 guys from Florida. That state is already being raided by 3 in state schools followed by the rest of the SEC. I have said all along all Michigan has to do is steal a difference maker or two from Ohio and they are doing well, well they have already done that and have taken 3 players out of the Columbus area. This is a big deal. Michigan leads right now for two more 4-stars who have OSU offers (Deveon Smith and Ben Gedeaon).

Meyer stole a bunch of kids from PSU do to circumstances surrounding their program. I am not blaming him, UM tried too, but it is what it is. You nabbed four big time players from PSU, and good for you, but lets see how you do this year before declaring yourself the kinds of recruiting and everything else.

Michigan is essentially doing what Texas does on the regular, this is something very hard to accomplish. I would show a little more respect rather then come on here and talk about it is all just smoke and mirrors because it is all quantity. also, 3 of MIchigan's 3-stars are within two spots of jumping to a 4-star. That would be 12 or 14 players a 4-star or higher. That is unheard of.

[VegasEagle]

I am beginning to think we have a troll problem on a UM thread that is turning into an OSU thread.

I bring up his losing record to Saban and .500 record to Miles because of the acts of worshiping that are going on with certain OSU fans. Good for Urban Meyer that he won two national titles, it has nothing to do with where he is at now. Those national championships say Florida on them (as you should know), so until I see one with OSU's name engraved in it excuse me for not kissing his feet. I respect him, but I don't want to hear about him on a Michigan thread or how he is going to get better players out of Florida, which at this point is hardly proven.

HEre is the problem you are your buckeye friends fail to see. If you are going to be successful in the Big Ten, your base has to be the midwest. Not Florida. I am sorry but even the great Urban Meyer is not going to go pull 10 top 20 guys from Florida. That state is already being raided by 3 in state schools followed by the rest of the SEC. I have said all along all Michigan has to do is steal a difference maker or two from Ohio and they are doing well, well they have already done that and have taken 3 players out of the Columbus area. This is a big deal. Michigan leads right now for two more 4-stars who have OSU offers (Deveon Smith and Ben Gedeaon).

Meyer stole a bunch of kids from PSU do to circumstances surrounding their program. I am not blaming him, UM tried too, but it is what it is. You nabbed four big time players from PSU, and good for you, but lets see how you do this year before declaring yourself the kinds of recruiting and everything else.

Michigan is essentially doing what Texas does on the regular, this is something very hard to accomplish. I would show a little more respect rather then come on here and talk about it is all just smoke and mirrors because it is all quantity. also, 3 of MIchigan's 3-stars are within two spots of jumping to a 4-star. That would be 12 or 14 players a 4-star or higher. That is unheard of.

The Same could be said about Hoke at SDST its not like he set the world on fire he was put into a pretty good situation last year playing 8 of 12 home games.Forgive me I if havent bought into Hoke just yet. Time will only tell

[Peake]

Both Ball State and SDSU have been traditionally weak football schools. Hoke in his second year won 9 games, first time ever at SDSU. Hoke at Ball State went undefeated during the regular season with a team that was essentially Duke Football like. You need to actually do a your homework before you speak. Hoke was put into a pretty good situation? Yeah having the 109 ranked defense falling into your hands sounds like a "good situation". I am not saying Hoke is the next coming of Bo, but he can recruit and so far it looks like he can coach. The difference is I don't feel the need to go on every thread and declare it.

[VegasEagle]

Both Ball State and SDSU have been traditionally weak football schools. Hoke in his second year won 9 games, first time ever at SDSU. Hoke at Ball State went undefeated during the regular season with a team that was essentially Duke Football like. You need to actually do a your homework before you speak. Hoke was put into a pretty good situation? Yeah having the 109 ranked defense falling into your hands sounds like a "good situation". I am not saying Hoke is the next coming of Bo, but he can recruit and so far it looks like he can coach. The difference is I don't feel the need to go on every thread and declare it.

So I should be impressed with Hoke going undefeated at Ball St. Come on Man......Like I said im not sold on him..... and yeah Playing 8 home games with that schedule you had last year was a good situation

[Peake]

If you're not impressed with him going undefeated at BALL STATE you really have no clue about college football. Steve Spurrier once won an ACC title with Duke, that is far more impressive then anything he has accomplished at Florida or South Carolina. Taking a bottom feeder and making them successful is extremely difficult to do.

Not to mention he won 11 games in his first season. I don't know what else he has to do to convince you or anyone else. Michigan could have been 8-4, and could have easily been 12-0 as well. Down 7 with 4 minutes at MSU and fail to convert on a 4th and 1 from the MSU 32, and having a td called off with seconds left against Iowa on the road that would have sent the game into overtime.

BTW you got MSU, Wisconsin, and PSU all at home last year. We got OSU, ND, and Nebraska at home. We played the best two teams on our schedule on the road (MSU and VT).

Please top trolling this thread. Right now UM is Texas, and you are essentially saying Texas has bad recruiting classes because they have most of their class locked up by August. Texas had the #1 class in the country last year (According to scout).

[Peake]

The funniest part of all of this, is OSU will go get national top recruits and UM won't.
UM Commits
#1 rated player in Michigan Shane Morris
#2 rated player in Ohio Dynomite Thomas
#2 rated player in Colorado Chris Fox
#1 rated player in Illinois Ty Issacs (heavy heavy UM lean)
#1 rated Pennsylvania player Patrick Kugler
#2 rated Illinois player Kyle Bosch
#4 rated Illinois player Logan Tully-Tillman
#1 rated player in Maryland EJ Lavenberry (heavy michigan lean).

[VegasEagle]

If you're not impressed with him going undefeated at BALL STATE you really have no clue about college football. Steve Spurrier once won an ACC title with Duke, that is far more impressive then anything he has accomplished at Florida or South Carolina. Taking a bottom feeder and making them successful is extremely difficult to do.

Not to mention he won 11 games in his first season. I don't know what else he has to do to convince you or anyone else. Michigan could have been 8-4, and could have easily been 12-0 as well. Down 7 with 4 minutes at MSU and fail to convert on a 4th and 1 from the MSU 32, and having a td called off with seconds left against Iowa on the road that would have sent the game into overtime.

BTW you got MSU, Wisconsin, and PSU all at home last year. We got OSU, ND, and Nebraska at home. We played the best two teams on our schedule on the road (MSU and VT).

Please top trolling this thread. Right now UM is Texas, and you are essentially saying Texas has bad recruiting classes because they have most of their class locked up by August. Texas had the #1 class in the country last year (According to scout).

Texas Really???? lol get your mind right Peake

[Peake]

I am trying to be civil but please just leave this thread. You're not the most educated football fan and zero of your points have any credibility.

Yes as of today Michigan is the Texas of last year. At this point last year Texas had 12 commits, UM has 14. Of those 12 Texas commits 2 were 5-stars, 7 were 4-stars, and 3 were 3-stars. As of today Michigan has 3-5 stars, 6 4-stars and, and 5 3-stars. Nearly identical numbers at this point last year. It is more then fair to compare ourselves to Texas. Texas didn't get commit number 14 until April, while Michigan has 14 in March and is expected to pick up a few more this month. So yes, Texas is an excellent comparison. Forgive me for making the comparison, I mean we were all of 3 spots behind them in recruiting, how silly of me to think our recruiting structure is similar to theirs.

I also enjoy how you ignore most of my post and focus on silly things like me comparing our recruiting class and structure to Texas.

[VegasEagle]

I am trying to be civil but please just leave this thread. You're not the most educated football fan and zero of your points have any credibility.

Yes as of today Michigan is the Texas of last year. At this point last year Texas had 12 commits, UM has 14. Of those 12 Texas commits 2 were 5-stars, 7 were 4-stars, and 3 were 3-stars. As of today Michigan has 3-5 stars, 6 4-stars and, and 5 3-stars. Nearly identical numbers at this point last year. It is more then fair to compare ourselves to Texas. Texas didn't get commit number 14 until April, while Michigan has 14 in March and is expected to pick up a few more this month. So yes, Texas is an excellent comparison. Forgive me for making the comparison, I mean we were all of 3 spots behind them in recruiting, how silly of me to think our recruiting structure is similar to theirs.

I also enjoy how you ignore most of my post and focus on silly things like me comparing our recruiting class and structure to Texas.

Im not the one looking stupid at this point you just cant handle anyone that disagrees with you just like last week when you were crying over UM's ranking in basketball and Run and guns top 25 list. Its like you can run off at the mouth about OSU but cant handle it when someone talks about UM... I think over half of the people on here will agree with me...I get it you love UM but come on man you get a couple of kids from Ohio and you wanna crown UM kings of Recruiting for 2013... That is all

[Peake]

There is nothing to disagree with that is the point. You are a troll who likes to come on UM threads and run your uneducated mouth (and I mean that in a non-educated college football and debate way). That is the real problem here. I can handle differing opinions if they have merit, yours have none. Why don't you go ask everyone if it is ok to have party again champ.

The difference between you and me is that I can reference actual facts to back up my opinion, I don't go around making open ended comments that have no evidence to back them up.

Point and case, your example of Brady Hoke not doing anything to convince you he can coach. It is pretty darn obvious he can coach and he can recruit. I shouldn't even need to make any case for that, but just to appease you I make the connection between taking over an awful program and turning it around. You, not being able to consider the parallel between someone like Spurrier taking over an awful Duke program. Spurrier had a losing record his first year at Duke, then two year later they win the conference, that is far more impressive then anything he has done since. Winning a NC at Florida with the brand and natural advantages is nothing compared to winning at a bottom school like Duke. Same applies to Ball State who has been awful for a very long time. Same things applies for SDSU who has sucked. Same would apply with your current head coach who started at Bowling Green.

I don't run off at the mouth about OSU either. I have a lot of respect for OSU, and rarely every say anything negative about them. Which is something most OSU fans are not capable of.

What would people agree with you on?

UM right now is killing it in recruiting. That is fact. Will they continue to kill it? Maybe, maybe not. Will OSu end up with a better class, possibly. The fact remains the same, and yes I am talking in fact unlike your open ended comments, UM is pulling top kids from all over and most importantly the midwest.

So when UM lands Ty Issacs, they will have landed the #1 QB, #1 RB, and #1 OG in the country. That is impressive no matter how you try and spin it. That would also lock up the #1 and #2 players in Illinois for UM. They already have the # 1 player out of Pennsylvania and Michigan. They have also landed the #2 player from Ohio and Colorado. That is darn impressive, and that is not just "getting a couple of kids from Ohio".

Add something to the thread or stop posting on it.

[Peake]

Vegaseagle

"Peake I agree 100% with you Hoke is getting these kids from ohio and killing it"

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"So you have started off good and took a couple kids from Ohio..........WOW like this has never happened"

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"Hoke at SDST its not like he set the world on fire he was put into a pretty good situation last year playing 8 of 12 home games.Forgive me I if havent bought into Hoke just yet."

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".Like I said im not sold on him"

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"Im not the one looking stupid at this point you just cant handle anyone that disagrees with you"

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"I think over half of the people on here will agree with me...I get it you love UM but come on man you get a couple of kids from Ohio and you wanna crown UM kings of Recruiting for 2013... That is all"

Please stop trolling on here.

[C-Bolt]

Just a little correction in your statement,they now have the number 3 QB in the country according to Scout,but I'm not taking anything away from their recruiting class so far it looks very talented so far congrats!