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Re: Can Ironton beat Moeller?
Don’t be deceived by Moeller’s record last year. They lost to LaSalle (D2 state semi finalists), Elder, Trinity (powerhouse school from Louisville, KY), a powerhouse school in Indy, and twice to St Xavier (D1 state champ). Moeller plays an insane schedule and is also in the toughest football conference in Ohio.
As for what they have coming back:
- QB who started last 4 games in 2020. Averaged 220 yards passing and 2 touchdowns per game. He’s big and can throw the ball all over the field.
- TE who is committed to Kentucky. The QB’s favorite target.
- A WR who missed nearly all of last year. Finished second in the 100 last track season (in the state) and was clocked at sub 4.3/40 at Iowa State football camp. He has numerous D1 offers despite little playing time his junior year. However, against Bishop Hartley, he had 55 yards rushing on 2 carries and 95 receiving on 4 catches.
As for the defense, their strength is the front seven where they also have multiple D1 prospects.
For Ironton to win, they need:
- Moeller to come into the game banged up.
- Win the turnover battle by a large number. At least +4.
- Moeller to overlook them, which is possible since Ironton (on paper) is Moeller’s least talented opponent.
- Ironton QB throw for over 150 yards with the team rushing for over 200.
The schools out of the Cincinnati GCL are on a different level. Not your standard D1 schools. In the last 10 years, the teams in this conference have won seven state titles (keep in mind, 3 of the 4 teams are D1). Moeller has won two titles during that stretch.
As for what they have coming back:
- QB who started last 4 games in 2020. Averaged 220 yards passing and 2 touchdowns per game. He’s big and can throw the ball all over the field.
- TE who is committed to Kentucky. The QB’s favorite target.
- A WR who missed nearly all of last year. Finished second in the 100 last track season (in the state) and was clocked at sub 4.3/40 at Iowa State football camp. He has numerous D1 offers despite little playing time his junior year. However, against Bishop Hartley, he had 55 yards rushing on 2 carries and 95 receiving on 4 catches.
As for the defense, their strength is the front seven where they also have multiple D1 prospects.
For Ironton to win, they need:
- Moeller to come into the game banged up.
- Win the turnover battle by a large number. At least +4.
- Moeller to overlook them, which is possible since Ironton (on paper) is Moeller’s least talented opponent.
- Ironton QB throw for over 150 yards with the team rushing for over 200.
The schools out of the Cincinnati GCL are on a different level. Not your standard D1 schools. In the last 10 years, the teams in this conference have won seven state titles (keep in mind, 3 of the 4 teams are D1). Moeller has won two titles during that stretch.
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Re: Can Ironton beat Moeller?
Based off athletes the difference in this game will be if Ironton can make open field tackles and contain Moeller’s weapons in space. Ironton has proven the last few seasons they are sound defensively. Hope they pull it off.
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Lol tell me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close, w/o telling me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close.Bdog_198807 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:11 am Absolutely and I am a burg fan. Not trying to over estimate but Ohio is a very powerful football state this Ironton team is special I wouldn't be afraid to say they could beat about 75% or more of the country. They just seem Nasty kinda like that 2017 burg team maybe better. I'm definitely rooting for them to bring another trophy down south. It's definitely not burg's year..
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David took his mighty stone and slung it at Goliath so we know how that went. Anything can happen, the kids from Moeller will take a nice trip to a part of the state I guarantee 90% of them have never been to as well should be a dandy of a game regardless
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*Or any state in the south....GA, AL, LA, even TX or CA. Different brand of football in those states. 75% is extremely generous.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:38 amLol tell me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close, w/o telling me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close.Bdog_198807 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:11 am Absolutely and I am a burg fan. Not trying to over estimate but Ohio is a very powerful football state this Ironton team is special I wouldn't be afraid to say they could beat about 75% or more of the country. They just seem Nasty kinda like that 2017 burg team maybe better. I'm definitely rooting for them to bring another trophy down south. It's definitely not burg's year..
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I lived in Lakeland Florida for over 3 years. Football Friday there was unreal. There stadium looks like a small college and Lakeland is usually in the running for a state title.spider2Ybanana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am*Or any state in the south....GA, AL, LA, even TX or CA. Different brand of football in those states. 75% is extremely generous.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:38 amLol tell me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close, w/o telling me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close.Bdog_198807 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:11 am Absolutely and I am a burg fan. Not trying to over estimate but Ohio is a very powerful football state this Ironton team is special I wouldn't be afraid to say they could beat about 75% or more of the country. They just seem Nasty kinda like that 2017 burg team maybe better. I'm definitely rooting for them to bring another trophy down south. It's definitely not burg's year..
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Yup. People in SEO seem to have perceptions that are really "seperated" from the rest of the world. LOLspider2Ybanana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am*Or any state in the south....GA, AL, LA, even TX or CA. Different brand of football in those states. 75% is extremely generous.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:38 amLol tell me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close, w/o telling me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close.Bdog_198807 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:11 am Absolutely and I am a burg fan. Not trying to over estimate but Ohio is a very powerful football state this Ironton team is special I wouldn't be afraid to say they could beat about 75% or more of the country. They just seem Nasty kinda like that 2017 burg team maybe better. I'm definitely rooting for them to bring another trophy down south. It's definitely not burg's year..
In 2021 that shouldnt be a thing.
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I live in southern ohio but I understand the difference between here and other places. It's even evident between SEO and cincy, columbus and cleveland. It's just different.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:51 amYup. People in SEO seem to have perceptions that are really "seperated" from the rest of the world. LOLspider2Ybanana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am*Or any state in the south....GA, AL, LA, even TX or CA. Different brand of football in those states. 75% is extremely generous.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:38 am
Lol tell me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close, w/o telling me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close.
In 2021 that shouldnt be a thing.
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Yeah and look at the stadiums these HS teams have in Texas, I mean look no further than where the recruiting power comes from it's not SEO. Someone saying 75% is someone who hasn't seen anything outside of SEO. I wouldn't even put 75% on the teams in Ohio that they could beat.Beergogglebluez wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:50 amI lived in Lakeland Florida for over 3 years. Football Friday there was unreal. There stadium looks like a small college and Lakeland is usually in the running for a state title.spider2Ybanana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am*Or any state in the south....GA, AL, LA, even TX or CA. Different brand of football in those states. 75% is extremely generous.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:38 am
Lol tell me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close, w/o telling me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close.
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.spider2Ybanana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:54 amI live in southern ohio but I understand the difference between here and other places. It's even evident between SEO and cincy, columbus and cleveland. It's just different.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:51 amYup. People in SEO seem to have perceptions that are really "seperated" from the rest of the world. LOLspider2Ybanana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am
*Or any state in the south....GA, AL, LA, even TX or CA. Different brand of football in those states. 75% is extremely generous.
In 2021 that shouldnt be a thing.
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Ohios best D1 team would get brutalized weekly in south florida.greygoose wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:56 amYeah and look at the stadiums these HS teams have in Texas, I mean look no further than where the recruiting power comes from it's not SEO. Someone saying 75% is someone who hasn't seen anything outside of SEO. I wouldn't even put 75% on the teams in Ohio that they could beat.Beergogglebluez wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:50 amI lived in Lakeland Florida for over 3 years. Football Friday there was unreal. There stadium looks like a small college and Lakeland is usually in the running for a state title.spider2Ybanana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am
*Or any state in the south....GA, AL, LA, even TX or CA. Different brand of football in those states. 75% is extremely generous.
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It really is something to see. Imagine ironton or burg vs Miami Central?Beergogglebluez wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:50 amI lived in Lakeland Florida for over 3 years. Football Friday there was unreal. There stadium looks like a small college and Lakeland is usually in the running for a state title.spider2Ybanana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am*Or any state in the south....GA, AL, LA, even TX or CA. Different brand of football in those states. 75% is extremely generous.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:38 am
Lol tell me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close, w/o telling me you've never seen high school football in south florida up close.
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.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:58 amIt really is something to see. Imagine ironton or burg vs Miami Central?Beergogglebluez wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:50 amI lived in Lakeland Florida for over 3 years. Football Friday there was unreal. There stadium looks like a small college and Lakeland is usually in the running for a state title.spider2Ybanana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am
*Or any state in the south....GA, AL, LA, even TX or CA. Different brand of football in those states. 75% is extremely generous.
Those miami boys would beat them seo boys on the field and if they didnt like it they would take em to the yard after the game and beat the breaks off of em again. Lol
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Also the "punchers chance" reference does note make sense to me. It takes 4 full quarters to beat good teams. Even the hardest punch is only worth 7 points.
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Definitely not my heart I’m a rockhill boy but Ironton is a power house team who will dominate until they play for the state championshipSpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:28 amYou made that pick w ya heart not ya head. Fair enough.
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The Herbstreit Classic results for Ohio teams 2005 - 2011. Not quite the 75% getting beat by the Florida teams.
2005
Colerain 27, Tyler Lee (TX) 12
Westerville North 14, Westerville South 10
2006
Hilliard Davidson 17, Saint Joseph's Prep (PA) 14
St. Edward 49, Springdale (AR) 3
Massillon Washington 35, Hamilton (AZ) 26
De La Salle (CA) 56, Elder 38
Don Bosco Prep (NJ) 21, Centerville 0
Lakeland (FL) 25, St. Xavier 22 OT
Byrnes (SC) 21, Moeller 20
Colerain 28, Cardinal O'Hara (PA) 0
Texas High (TX) 44, Findlay 21
2007
Buford (GA) 34, Grove City 7
Long Beach Poly (CA) 21, Glenville 13
Cardinal Mooney 27, Gateway (PA) 6
Union (OK) 31, Canton McKinley 0
Cathedral (IN) 7, LaSalle 6
Colerain 20, Hoover (AL)17 OT
Mission Viejo (CA) 26, Moeller 22
Elder 41, Independence (NC) 34 OT
St. Xavier 38, DeMatha (MD) 7
Central Catholic (PA) 34, Northmont 6
Highlands (KY) 24, Trotwood-Madison 20
2008
Klein Forest (TX) 27, Warren Howland 6
Cathedral (IN) 34, Canton McKinley 13
Cardinal Mooney 57, Covington Catholic (KY) 0
Jordan (UT) 27, Massillon Washington 24
Saint Thomas Aquinas (FL) 35, Elder 24
Warren Central (IN) 39, Middletown 35
Colerain 14, McKeesport (PA) 7 OT
St. Xavier 15, Prattville (AL) 10
Montgomery Bell Academy (TN) 21, Moeller 6
Huber Heights Wayne 20, East Saint Louis (IL) 12
Saint Rita (IL) 28, Lakota West 21
Cedar Hill (TX) 38, LaSalle 14
Bowie (TX) 48, Trotwood-Madison 0
2009
Saint Thomas Aquinas (FL) 52, Upper Arlington 7
Hilliard Davidson 21, Westerville South 20
Pickerington Central 28, Orange Lutheran (CA) 14
Dublin Coffman 52, Olentangy Liberty 0
2010
Westerville South 31, Dublin Coffman 21
Canton McKinley 26, Huber Heights Wayne 0
Glenville 26, Dwyer (FL) 22
Pickerington Central 36, Oscar Smith (VA) 20
2011
St. Xavier 38, Pickerington Central 21
Upper Arlington 34, Springfield 19
Camden County (GA) 23, Glenville 14
Cathedral (IN) 34, Centerville 17
2005
Colerain 27, Tyler Lee (TX) 12
Westerville North 14, Westerville South 10
2006
Hilliard Davidson 17, Saint Joseph's Prep (PA) 14
St. Edward 49, Springdale (AR) 3
Massillon Washington 35, Hamilton (AZ) 26
De La Salle (CA) 56, Elder 38
Don Bosco Prep (NJ) 21, Centerville 0
Lakeland (FL) 25, St. Xavier 22 OT
Byrnes (SC) 21, Moeller 20
Colerain 28, Cardinal O'Hara (PA) 0
Texas High (TX) 44, Findlay 21
2007
Buford (GA) 34, Grove City 7
Long Beach Poly (CA) 21, Glenville 13
Cardinal Mooney 27, Gateway (PA) 6
Union (OK) 31, Canton McKinley 0
Cathedral (IN) 7, LaSalle 6
Colerain 20, Hoover (AL)17 OT
Mission Viejo (CA) 26, Moeller 22
Elder 41, Independence (NC) 34 OT
St. Xavier 38, DeMatha (MD) 7
Central Catholic (PA) 34, Northmont 6
Highlands (KY) 24, Trotwood-Madison 20
2008
Klein Forest (TX) 27, Warren Howland 6
Cathedral (IN) 34, Canton McKinley 13
Cardinal Mooney 57, Covington Catholic (KY) 0
Jordan (UT) 27, Massillon Washington 24
Saint Thomas Aquinas (FL) 35, Elder 24
Warren Central (IN) 39, Middletown 35
Colerain 14, McKeesport (PA) 7 OT
St. Xavier 15, Prattville (AL) 10
Montgomery Bell Academy (TN) 21, Moeller 6
Huber Heights Wayne 20, East Saint Louis (IL) 12
Saint Rita (IL) 28, Lakota West 21
Cedar Hill (TX) 38, LaSalle 14
Bowie (TX) 48, Trotwood-Madison 0
2009
Saint Thomas Aquinas (FL) 52, Upper Arlington 7
Hilliard Davidson 21, Westerville South 20
Pickerington Central 28, Orange Lutheran (CA) 14
Dublin Coffman 52, Olentangy Liberty 0
2010
Westerville South 31, Dublin Coffman 21
Canton McKinley 26, Huber Heights Wayne 0
Glenville 26, Dwyer (FL) 22
Pickerington Central 36, Oscar Smith (VA) 20
2011
St. Xavier 38, Pickerington Central 21
Upper Arlington 34, Springfield 19
Camden County (GA) 23, Glenville 14
Cathedral (IN) 34, Centerville 17
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Re: Can Ironton beat Moeller?
Truth.Pit Stop Billy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:21 pmYea, but I bet they can't beat you on Madden. You da best of da boyz in da hood, I mean ya momma's basement so you'd "beat da breaks off" them boyz down south in Madden fer sure.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:00 pm.SpeedKillz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:58 am
It really is something to see. Imagine ironton or burg vs Miami Central?
Those miami boys would beat them seo boys on the field and if they didnt like it they would take em to the yard after the game and beat the breaks off of em again. Lol
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Best SEO players that are also good at Madden would wisely use a Wing playbook and hold on for dear life in a one-score win.
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The only Ohio athlete that will ever be on the Madden cover is from Athens. All other Ohio athletes look average compared to the SEO kidformerfcfan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:28 pm Best SEO players that are also good at Madden would wisely use a Wing playbook and hold on for dear life in a one-score win.
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Be careful what you wish for. The Madden curse is real.Raider6309 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:39 pmThe only Ohio athlete that will ever be on the Madden cover is from Athens.formerfcfan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:28 pm Best SEO players that are also good at Madden would wisely use a Wing playbook and hold on for dear life in a one-score win.