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Post by Orange and Brown »

I waited all season for the Cats to make the trip down here to play EKU and they show up and get hammered. 21-1!! I know the Colonels have been playing some good Baseball as of late but Ohio just acted like they didn't want to be there. There was no hustle, no effort.......

I do understand that the Cats had a few different kids playing cause it was a mid week game but still it was UGLY.

Ohio got a lead off single then the kid got picked off first on a bad call (He was easily safe), and the wheels fell off after that. Caribine jumped the Home plate ump about low strikes and got his head chewed off by the ump and Ohio laid down after that.

It was nice to see the Cats though and Kyle Dean from Athens was behind the plate so that had me excited!


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The Carbone reign of mediocrity can't end soon enough. Another underachieving team, and underwhelming season. Hopefully, the AD can spend some more of that OU cash and hire a young, hard-working coach to replace Carbone after this season.


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OU only cares about football and basketball for media exposure. We are lucky OU even has a baseball team. A lot of the olympic sport teams were eliminated a few years back.


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Ohio has been playing pretty good baseball this year, but I don't understand why they just laid down to an OVC team. Why I do like Carbone I think it is past time for him to go at this point.


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I'll be out to Athens on May 1st to see them...But I'll be rooting for my Panthers though.I always enjoy watching games at Bob Wren Stadium..Nice campus too! Hail To Pitt!


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Ohio is second in the MAC in the east and overall if they didn't have divisions. there one game behind Kent State and before this game they was on a four game winning streak and won 7 of their last 10...and a lot of the olympic sports that were eliminated were to accommodate title IX


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Post by Keyser_sozeThrice »

Steely Dan.....Excellent post!

Thank God this is Carbone's last home stand this weekend and final MAC Tournament next week.

He is one coach that was there wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long, and won't be missed by many anytime soon.


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Keyser_soze78 wrote:Steely Dan.....Excellent post!

Thank God this is Carbone's last home stand this weekend and final MAC Tournament next week.

He is one coach that was there wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long, and won't be missed by many anytime soon.
Thanks Keyser. I wasn't too keen on the homage being paid Carbone in yesterday's Athens Mess. It bordered on being a slobberfest, and I just can't understand why they are treating his retirement like he's a coaching legend. And I actually believe that the writer may have referred to Carbone as a legend. Huh? Good thing that I waited awhile after dinner before I read it, or I would have lost my dinner. :122246


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Joe was a good recruiter but he just couldn't get results on the field. ie...He just wasn't a very good skipper. There are a lot of good young coaches who will be willing to step in and take Ohio to the top of the MAC and beyond. I didn't get to read the article in the Messenger because I have no reason to subscribe to it way down here, but I just don't understand why people talk about him so fondly as a coach? To be mid level in the MAC most years isn't exactly a Legendary career. I am sure he is a wonderful person and the athletes that have came through the program like him, but Joe is no legend!

I sure hope the Next guy to take the reigns brings in a new attitude and a new style of play!
GO BOBCATS!


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Carbone is NO legend EVER in my book.

95% of the time took top talented teams to the middle — or even near the bottom of the conference.

RARELY, and I mean VERY RARELY, ever even gave SE Ohio kids a look to watch them play— Jared Humphreys, Jake Hale, Andy Grillo, etc. :(

The only thing more rare was a prime rib steak I got at an Outback Steakhouse in Nags Head, NC.

Only tried to outslug teams and did VERY little to try to win with pitching.

And, worst of all, was responsible for the state Legion tournament leaving Athens — for an hour north up Route 33. :? :(

Didn't want kids playing on "HIS FIELD". I believe the name of the stadium is Bob Wren Stadium.

So there's my thoughts on the "legendary" Joe Carbone. :roll:


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FINALLY! Keyser Soze and I are in agreement! Joe Carbone era was a huge mistake and will be soon forgotten.

I will even go further and say that if you consider the talent of the Southeast District that left for other schools in just the past 15 years, (just because Carbone was too lazy or too arrogant to give these kids a look), is astounding:

Jake Hale - Albany Alexander - The Ohio State University
Jared Humphreys - Jackson - Kent State
Seth Dawes - Chillicothe - Xavier
Aaron Oesch - Minford - Cincinnati
Josh Berrera - Sheridan - The Ohio State University
Lance Rolston - Albany Alexander - The Ohio State University
Tyler Engle - Fort Fyre - The Ohio State University
Andrew Elliot - Wheelersburg - Wright State
Aaron Hooper - Wheelersburg - Marietta
Andy Grillo - Vinton County - Capital
Tyler Wenn - Warren - Cleveland State, Bowling Green
Andy Nix - Liberty Union - Toledo
Andrew Davis - Zane Trace - Kent State
Bryan White and his brother - Wheelersburg - Akron
Tyler Thompson - Federal Hocking - West Virginia State
Blake Bagshaw - Hillsboro - Northern Kentucky
Josh Myers - Portsmouth - Northern Kentucky
Zach Skaggs - Adena - Oakland
Harrison Martin - Waverly - Youngstown State
Ryan Robertson - Waverly - Rio Grande
Kyle Dingess - Gallia Academy - Northern Kentucky
Caleb Warnimont - Gallia Academy - Akron
Tyler Watkins - Belpre - Ohio Domincan
Klye Stoughton - Lancaster - Cincinnati
Brent Ewing - Wellston - Rio Grande
Travis Shaw - Washington Court House - Kent State
Scotty Lewis - Washington Court House - The Ohio State University
Aric Steelgal - Hillsboro - Bluffton
Kendale Coleman - Hillsboro - Cincinnati

Now some may say that some of these gentlemen are not DI material, I disagree to this extent; these are LOCAL kids, their families and friends would have put butts in the seats at BOB WREN stadium. Furthermore, I know that most of these kids were never looked at by Carbone. In fact, I remembered being at the showcase in the VA stadium Austin King's (Gallia) senior year, Carbone sat in the stand collected King's 60's times and then left, he was there a total of 15 minutes. Lazy! Or he just, summarily dismiss everyone else with a wave of a hand as a King to a court jester.

However, the biggest tragedy of the Carbone Era is the lost of the state American Legion tournament. That loss has cost the city of Athens and Athens businesses approximately $400,000 of tournament related revenue. All because Carbone was arrogant.

Goodbye Carbone, don't look back, nobody here wants you.


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sooo it sounds like people on here are mad because he doesn't recruit locally around the area, so what, baseball isn't the only sport at Ohio that doesn't recruit locally and if nobody didn't want carbone then he wouldn't of been coaching Ohio for the last 24 years. Winningest coach all time and second most MAC wins plus two time coach of the year among other accolades. Pretty decent career in my book


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I'm not "one of those people". When you are in a job long enough, you are going to get some records. Doesn't mean that you are a good coach, the "best", the "brightest", the best "motivator", or strategically, the best coach. In my very humble opinion, if there is one game where the best coach is the best "strategist", it is baseball. Here, Carbone failed miserably. 3M2, you are more than welcome to worship him for his "lifetime" accomplishments, but coach of the year two times in holy crap, how many seasons, well, that "ain't hall of fame material". I'll leave it at that about his coaching.

You want to know why most people are happy to see his arrogant butt leave? His treatment of the locals, the press, the legion in Athens. Well, I could go on and on. Remember, to quote the Wizard of Oz, "it is not how much you loved, but how much you are loved". I'm paraphrasing, but I hope you get my point. There is no love lost between this guy and the remainder of SEO baseball fans, writers, HS baseball coaches, and the plain ol' layperson.

To quote one of my favorite song lyrics (from The Sanford Townsend Band, no less), Carbone, "Don't let the screen door hit you, on your way out!".


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3morethan2 wrote:sooo it sounds like people on here are mad because he doesn't recruit locally around the area, so what, baseball isn't the only sport at Ohio that doesn't recruit locally and if nobody didn't want carbone then he wouldn't of been coaching Ohio for the last 24 years. Winningest coach all time and second most MAC wins plus two time coach of the year among other accolades. Pretty decent career in my book

He lasted 24 years because Ohio didn't have to pay him much and he kept his mouth shut and did whatever the AD told him to. He was a lousy coach, and he cost us the State Legion Tourny, He cost the cats a chance at may MAC titles, and he overlooked a bunch of local kids because SEO is beneath him. So go ahead and worship the man like he has done something! The rest of us will be cheering as he leaves his post!


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ok i understand Ohio should recruit more locally then they do now but he's won a MAC championship before, if he wasn't a good coach would he have won coach of the year twice? No, and I agree coaching for that long will get you wins but in order to achieve what he did at Ohio you have to win and he has won. He has a winning record and then some. This doesn't just go for Carbone, its coaching in general, I don't think he would've last 24 years if he didn't win.


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I agree with recruiting locally but looking at three colleges in the TVC area OU, Marietta and Rio Grande they all suck at this other than Rio Grande Baseball. OU Basketball- 0 local players, OU Baseball-1 local player, OU Football-4 local players, Marietta Basketball-1 local player, Marietta Baseball-1 local player, Marietta Football-2 local players, Rio Grande Basketball- 2 local players, Rio Grande Baseball-11 local players in the program. What I am calling local players are not TVC players but just players in SEO. I think all these local universities think they are above the local kids, especially a small school like Rio Grande Basketball. At the D1 level I can see it being hard to get local kids but at the D3 and below level come on. These universities like our tax dollars and support filling seats in their sporting events but are slow to give any of the local kids a look.


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Fred, good post. Marietta College actually has two local players, Evan Brockmeier from Marietta and Aaron Hopper from Wheelersburg. I notice that OU played Otterbein this year from the OAC and if memory serves me correct, played Wilmington around six years ago. How come they never play Marietta?


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Post by Keyser_sozeThrice »

Hopefully, only two more days of the Carbone era.

Check out his quotes in today's Athens Messenger for the MAC Tourney preview story.

Saying momentum means nothing in baseball?

Are you freaking kidding me? :roll: :122246


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Keyser - I finally read the article, and after getting to that point in the write-up, it felt surreal. It was so disingenuous, it almost seemed like he was being a caricature of a college baseball coach. Wow, wow, and wow one more time. It reminded me of the locker room scene with Coach Klein from "The Waterboy" before Bobby Boucher, Jr joined the team.


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Steely Dan...

I wonder if Carbone thinks Wednesday's defeat "meant nothing."

Now that he is one loss away from being DONE.

The Bobcats may have lost to the Broncos, but it was more like a sheep. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

Have a good day SD :)


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