Pat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:15 pm
enigmaax wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:50 pm
chrishilton91 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:34 am
This will be my last post until someone is officially hired because its just counterproductive.
To be clear, I do NOT the think the alleged name being mentioned is the right choice because he is a buddy of the AD and his background. I personally believe we need a younger coach that will stay and build a program. And live here not travel down 339.
I have not mentioned in other names out of respect for the ones that applied and/or interviewed. If they want their names mentioned they can do it themselves.
I respect your opinion and hope the board will finally make a good decision.
I don’t have an opinion on whether it’s the right hire or not. You certainly don’t have to say names, but is your only desired qualification “a young coach”? And how do you determine if someone will stay (or succeed and even have people want him to stay)?
It’s just interesting that a couple of you constantly criticize the decision-makers but you can’t add any substance to what the better decision(s) would be. It’s just, “we need this” where you can’t even say that “this” exists.
It’s not exposing anyone to say something like, “One applicant has 12 years HC experience” or “One applicant has been an assistant for 10 years in a winning program” or “One applicant doesn’t have much experience but loves Belpre,” so we can at least evaluate whether there’s something to your repeated undermining or if you just happen to be buddies with someone who didn’t get the job (or a personal vendetta against some administrators).
Can you give some reasons why Welsh is the right choice? You’re quick to grill people who say he wasn’t the best choice. So tell us why you think he is. You obviously think that, so please tell us you have reasons for why you think that and aren’t just friends with him or friends with the AD or someone else on the inside or just criticizing with no basis. Tell us there is some substance to your barrage of criticism you keep piling onto those who disagree.
To answer your question, there was more than one applicant who has HC experience with more success and are not retired. One applicant has been extremely successful and didn’t get an interview. Never even acknowledged that he applied. So, this smells of sham process that wasted everyone’s time because the powers knew who they were going to hire all along. JMHO
I didn’t say anyone was the right choice. I don’t have enough information to form an opinion at this point, hence why I asked for real details. I think I spelled out pretty well what my criticism of you & a few others is, but I’ll do it again. When someone says, “There are better applicants” and then provides no valid information supporting that, it’s a worthless opinion. When someone says something like, “There was an applicant who has won 60% of his games, won a few playoff games, etc.,” it demonstrates the person has some credible information.
But see, you guys get defensive and confrontational about a “disagreement” that doesn’t yet exist. That’s pretty telling about your real motive and it isn’t uncommon; a lot of people spout of about how someone does a crappy job but they either argue nonsense or run and hide when put on the spot to support their general statements.
The ONLY thing I’ve maintained is that administrators have a tough job; we all want the next legendary coach to walk into our school’s offices, but hiring high school coaches isn’t like hiring college and professional coaches where there’s a lot of money to throw around or other perks. Belpre’s district is in sad shape in many ways - it isn’t super appealing. So I believe it would be tough to get “great” candidates. If there was someone better, like you say, I’d just like to know what makes them better TO TRY and understand whether you are right about the incompetence you are implying or whether you are just never going to be happy (I remember people complaining about hiring Devol - some people are never happy).
Now you’ve said “more successful” and “extremely successful” candidates existed. I would just like that quantified a bit since YOU are the one offering information. I don’t believe or not believe you, I just don’t know what your definitions of those terms are. For example, someone who was 20-50 is “more successful” as a HC than the person previously named, but having that record in the past 7 years may not make him a better candidate considering what the other person has been doing for the past few years. By “extremely successful,” are we talking regular playoff appearances or going .500 at a school that hadn’t done that in a while?
TL;DR - I’m just looking for context; if you don’t want to provide it, fine, but it undermines your credibility. I’m sure you don’t care whether I personally find you credible, but it lets me know whether to skip your posts in the future.
And for the record, I have no connections to either the person named or the Belpre AD. If the process was a sham like you say, it’s sad. I’ve lived through situations like Belpre’s past season with friends/relatives/kids and it’s a terrible place to be. Hopefully, they get it figured out.
