D4 Tournament Thread
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Can’t wait to see where Howie gets the Tomcats seeded. No doubt he’ll work his magic and get us in the best possible spot. He does it every year. It’s like he’s some kind of magician, or Svengali.
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That dude is a wizard. I thought maybe someday we would get a chance to get him to Buchtel. But he seems happy working his magic over the hill!Tomcat Queen wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:39 pm Can’t wait to see where Howie gets the Tomcats seeded. No doubt he’ll work his magic and get us in the best possible spot. He does it every year. It’s like he’s some kind of magician, or Svengali.
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Could very well see (2) Fed vs (10) Trimble at Athens h.s.
Thank god we don't have to travel to Wellston.
Thank god we don't have to travel to Wellston.
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Re: D4 Tournament Thread
Official OHSAA Seed Procedures:
The Board of Directors established date for ALL seeding and drawing meetings in Ohio is
Sunday, January 29, 2023, at 2 p.m. for GIRLS, and Sunday, February 5, 2023, at 2 p.m. for BOYS.
In all Sectional tournaments that precede District tournaments, seeding is mandatory in the Sectional. In District tournaments NOT preceded by Sectional tournaments, seeding is mandatory. This is interpreted that at least one seeding is to take place in either the Sectional or District tournament. ALL teams assigned to the tournament shall be seeded. The following seeding method shall prevail for all OHSAA-sponsored basketball tournaments. For purposes of seeding, the last games to be counted will be those played on the date established by the District Athletic Board.
Basketball Tournament Seeding Procedures When Online Seeding Takes Place Athletic Districts with online seeding will provide all managers with the required procedures. In Athletic Districts utilizing online seeding, it is important for managers to communicate instructions and deadlines clearly and concisely for the submission of votes.
1. Coaches will submit their win/loss records online and will include the number of wins and losses in the divisions of the teams played.
Example: in a schedule that has played 20 games to date:
Division I:
14 wins 2 losses
Division II:
2 wins 1 loss
Division III:
1 win 10 Losses
Overall Record: 17-3
All games played to date shall be recorded.
2. Voting will be done to seed teams.
A. All head coaches shall vote via the online ballot, which shall be made public, selecting their
choice for the number 1 seeded team. The team with the greatest number of votes shall be
seeded “Number 1’, second highest #2, etc., until all teams are seeded
B. In the event of a tie, the tiebreaker is based on the number of votes at or above the tied
position. Should a tie occur a second time, a flip of a coin shall determine the seeded team. The school to call the toss will be the first one to appear in an alphabetic listing of the schools without the use of the respective city name unless the city name is part of the official school name. Selection will go from A-Z in even-numbered years; to Z-A in odd-numbered years.
C. Seeding process:
a. There shall be a two-point differential between the first and second seeds. (i.e., If there are
20 teams, a first seed will receive 20 points, second seed will receive 18 points)
b. There shall be a one-point differential between all subsequent seeds.
c. A school’s point total shall be calculated by dropping the highest and lowest vote they have
received.
d. A school shall not vote for itself.
e. If a school fails to vote, their second high score will also be dropped from their point total.
D. The results of the electronic voting shall be made public by the manager prior to the draw meeting.
NOTE: During the 2022-23 Season the OHSAA will be conducting a pilot study on the use of the Martin RPI system. The Northwest District will be using this system to seed their teams instead of having coaches submit votes.
3. Placement on brackets - After teams are seeded, placement of teams on brackets shall occur.
A. Seeded Teams shall make, in order of their seed, their choice of placement in the tournament
bracket. Where applicable, District level sites will be known ahead of the tournament drawing
process.
B. Passing on bracket placement: The number of schools advancing to the district tournament may pass. All others must place themselves in the bracket when their seed is called. (i.e., If 8 teams are advancing to the District tournament, Seeds 1 through 8 may pass; teams with a seed greater than 8 must go on the bracket.)
C. At each point where a seeded team places itself on the bracket, the seeds above that team that previously passed shall be given the option to place themselves on the bracket, starting with the highest seed going first. Those teams may choose to pass again. Example: Seed No. 1 places itself on the bracket. Seeds No. 2 and 3 passes. Seed No. 4 places itself in the bracket. Instead of going to Seed No. 5, Seed No. 2 shall then be given the option to place itself in the bracket, followed by Seed No. 3.
4. Teams absent from the draw – District Athletic Boards or their designees overseeing the tournament
the draw shall be provided with the cellular phone numbers of head coaches and athletic administrators
listed in myOHSAA prior to the draw/seed meeting. If no school representative is present for the
tournament draw/seed meeting, and whether the meeting is in-person or virtual, a District Athletic Board member or the board’s designee overseeing the tournament draw shall attempt to call the head
coach and/or athletic administrator from the school(s) not present in order for a representative from the missing school(s) to participate in the tournament draw/seed meeting electronically/virtually.
a. If a school representative is not able to be contacted, placement on the bracket will be in
accordance with the District Athletic Board policy 11
5. Tournament managers will distribute brackets to representatives of the participating teams.
a. All brackets shall designate the date and time of the game.
b. Home teams will wear Home (White) Jerseys throughout the tournament.
6. Tournament managers should report final scores to their appointed District Athletic Board member.
The Board of Directors established date for ALL seeding and drawing meetings in Ohio is
Sunday, January 29, 2023, at 2 p.m. for GIRLS, and Sunday, February 5, 2023, at 2 p.m. for BOYS.
In all Sectional tournaments that precede District tournaments, seeding is mandatory in the Sectional. In District tournaments NOT preceded by Sectional tournaments, seeding is mandatory. This is interpreted that at least one seeding is to take place in either the Sectional or District tournament. ALL teams assigned to the tournament shall be seeded. The following seeding method shall prevail for all OHSAA-sponsored basketball tournaments. For purposes of seeding, the last games to be counted will be those played on the date established by the District Athletic Board.
Basketball Tournament Seeding Procedures When Online Seeding Takes Place Athletic Districts with online seeding will provide all managers with the required procedures. In Athletic Districts utilizing online seeding, it is important for managers to communicate instructions and deadlines clearly and concisely for the submission of votes.
1. Coaches will submit their win/loss records online and will include the number of wins and losses in the divisions of the teams played.
Example: in a schedule that has played 20 games to date:
Division I:
14 wins 2 losses
Division II:
2 wins 1 loss
Division III:
1 win 10 Losses
Overall Record: 17-3
All games played to date shall be recorded.
2. Voting will be done to seed teams.
A. All head coaches shall vote via the online ballot, which shall be made public, selecting their
choice for the number 1 seeded team. The team with the greatest number of votes shall be
seeded “Number 1’, second highest #2, etc., until all teams are seeded
B. In the event of a tie, the tiebreaker is based on the number of votes at or above the tied
position. Should a tie occur a second time, a flip of a coin shall determine the seeded team. The school to call the toss will be the first one to appear in an alphabetic listing of the schools without the use of the respective city name unless the city name is part of the official school name. Selection will go from A-Z in even-numbered years; to Z-A in odd-numbered years.
C. Seeding process:
a. There shall be a two-point differential between the first and second seeds. (i.e., If there are
20 teams, a first seed will receive 20 points, second seed will receive 18 points)
b. There shall be a one-point differential between all subsequent seeds.
c. A school’s point total shall be calculated by dropping the highest and lowest vote they have
received.
d. A school shall not vote for itself.
e. If a school fails to vote, their second high score will also be dropped from their point total.
D. The results of the electronic voting shall be made public by the manager prior to the draw meeting.
NOTE: During the 2022-23 Season the OHSAA will be conducting a pilot study on the use of the Martin RPI system. The Northwest District will be using this system to seed their teams instead of having coaches submit votes.
3. Placement on brackets - After teams are seeded, placement of teams on brackets shall occur.
A. Seeded Teams shall make, in order of their seed, their choice of placement in the tournament
bracket. Where applicable, District level sites will be known ahead of the tournament drawing
process.
B. Passing on bracket placement: The number of schools advancing to the district tournament may pass. All others must place themselves in the bracket when their seed is called. (i.e., If 8 teams are advancing to the District tournament, Seeds 1 through 8 may pass; teams with a seed greater than 8 must go on the bracket.)
C. At each point where a seeded team places itself on the bracket, the seeds above that team that previously passed shall be given the option to place themselves on the bracket, starting with the highest seed going first. Those teams may choose to pass again. Example: Seed No. 1 places itself on the bracket. Seeds No. 2 and 3 passes. Seed No. 4 places itself in the bracket. Instead of going to Seed No. 5, Seed No. 2 shall then be given the option to place itself in the bracket, followed by Seed No. 3.
4. Teams absent from the draw – District Athletic Boards or their designees overseeing the tournament
the draw shall be provided with the cellular phone numbers of head coaches and athletic administrators
listed in myOHSAA prior to the draw/seed meeting. If no school representative is present for the
tournament draw/seed meeting, and whether the meeting is in-person or virtual, a District Athletic Board member or the board’s designee overseeing the tournament draw shall attempt to call the head
coach and/or athletic administrator from the school(s) not present in order for a representative from the missing school(s) to participate in the tournament draw/seed meeting electronically/virtually.
a. If a school representative is not able to be contacted, placement on the bracket will be in
accordance with the District Athletic Board policy 11
5. Tournament managers will distribute brackets to representatives of the participating teams.
a. All brackets shall designate the date and time of the game.
b. Home teams will wear Home (White) Jerseys throughout the tournament.
6. Tournament managers should report final scores to their appointed District Athletic Board member.
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Re: D4 Tournament Thread
I really believe Waterford has a great chance to beat Western Brown. Sony sleep on the cats!
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Maybe…but Waterford is closer to Pennsylvania than Western High School. Western got the draw they wanted I’m guessing.Farmer Yoder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:04 pm I really believe Waterford has a great chance to beat Western Brown. Sony sleep on the cats!
Western by 16
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Yes they did, they certainly didn’t want to face Howie again. Howie would be on top of the refs this time and they wouldn’t get all the calls. Howie gets an easy game against Eastern and then the revenge game in the second round against Fed Hocker, if they make it.Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:11 pmMaybe…but Waterford is closer to Pennsylvania than Western High School. Western got the draw they wanted I’m guessing.Farmer Yoder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:04 pm I really believe Waterford has a great chance to beat Western Brown. Sony sleep on the cats!
Western by 16
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You guys just practice up for eastern. We saw that loss to southern.Tomcat Queen wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:16 pmYes they did, they certainly didn’t want to face Howie again. Howie would be on top of the refs this time and they wouldn’t get all the calls. Howie gets an easy game against Eastern and then the revenge game in the second round against Fed Hocker, if they make it.Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:11 pmMaybe…but Waterford is closer to Pennsylvania than Western High School. Western got the draw they wanted I’m guessing.Farmer Yoder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:04 pm I really believe Waterford has a great chance to beat Western Brown. Sony sleep on the cats!
Western by 16
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SW vs ND rematch likely on a neutral floor. Early exit for the Jeeps if they only want to play the 4th quarter.
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Manchester to Fed Hocking lol
Waterford to Western….neighborly
Symmes Valley/East winner to Fairfield ….are we there yet?
Waterford to Western….neighborly
Symmes Valley/East winner to Fairfield ….are we there yet?
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So in the southeast tournament draw, the coaches get to place there team on what line they want to, or is it done automatically after they know there seeds, they have no choice like NCAA college basketball tournament is done
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Harder to do with so many teams. Portsmouth was the only team that I was more than one line off on my predictions and that didn’t even seem fishy overall.