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RBH23 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:14 pm
XandOs wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:55 pm
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:04 pm

Wow!!!

Felder: his junior year at Huntington High, he had over 500 yards rushing, 200 receiving, and scored 13 touchdowns on a team that was state runner up. He didn’t have a D1 offer at this time, but he had offers from smaller schools and was talking with Morehead State (same level of play as Eastern Kentucky). He most certainly would have played college ball.

Perkins: was third string all state as a sophomore! Don’t care how many catches he had in any one game, his talent was already being recognized before he stepped on the field at Ironton.

Salyers: his dad played college ball. His uncle played college ball. His cousin played college ball. But somehow he wouldn’t have made it to the next level if not for Ironton? That’s delusional. He would have started on D and played RB at Burg. Most certainly would have gotten offers.

Pittman: go back and check your dates. Pittman was offered by UK a few days before announcing that he was transferring to IHS. He hadn’t played a single down yet for IHS. Can’t believe IHS fans are taking credit for this one. 🤦‍♂️

Keyes: his dad played college football and helps run a recruiting service. The genetics were already there, and the dad had the connections. He could have played anywhere…

Everyone of these kids would have played college ball despite IHS!
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


Then why did they move? Were they offered a big NIL deal?
Sorry that the facts upset you.

Keyes’ father was offered a job with the school, so that’s straight forward.

Salyers wanted to play QB, and that wasn’t an option until his cousin moved on at Burg.

As for the others, Pendleton obviously did a good job recruiting them and convincing them to come to Ironton.


Now back to the original point: these kids were all really good athletes. And despite all of these really good athletes, IHS has been unable to bring home a title. Have been out-coached in their final games the last three years.

This is easy to see and understand when you aren’t drinking the kool-aid!
But you didn't offer any facts. Never have. You've offered allegations and innuendo and narrative regarding Ironton. But you've never offered evidence to make any of it fact. - Kinda like how all that "superior culture" at lil burg can hardly ever offer you as a fan, a trip past the region. 😂😂

On the other hand, lil burg only being able to make it out of their own region 3 times in about the last 2 and a half decades is FACT.

lil burg is fairland in Ironton colors. Lol You were lucky enough to get the local spotlight to yaself for a few years, but it went to the fanbases head, and you tend to forget who you are. lol

Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow. Burg is #lilsis💅

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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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TomUnessa wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:19 pm Week 1 will be here before we know it. Can’t wait. Ironton definitely the favorite but Burg will be ready as always. Should be a great atmosphere. Both teams have had to replace some key players from last year. Should be interesting
Lil burg lost to every ranked regional opp on their schedule last season.

Ready as always? 😂

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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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RBH23 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:12 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:11 am My thoughts from reading these threads are I’m not sure either coaching staff is that great.

I don’t know how anyone can watch Ironton play and think that they are well coached. They do less with more than anyone. Having the most talented team and consistently laying eggs on the state level doesn’t speak to good coaching. They still bring in bunches of players hoping to get to the next level. Players that were developed by other teams who gave them the chance to play prominent roles as Freshmen and Sophomores, and then claim that they were developed in Ironton. Several players have went to the next level and basically none have panned out. Honestly it seems a lot of the Luster has worn off locally.

Wheelersburg is trending down. They don’t constantly win their own conference anymore and haven’t been a threat on the State Level for 5 seasons. Look no further than handing jobs to Sophomores before they’ve accomplished anything on the High School level and it’s easy to see which way the program is going.
Agree with most of what you said.

Ironton: I think Pendleton did a great job coaching his first two years, however, the last three have ended tragically starting with the 30-0 loss to Kirtland. Ironton had far more talent and should never have lost that badly; coaching was exposed in this game.
Loss to Burg the following year was a complete disaster. Can’t put enough lipstick on that pig of a loss.
And then South Range was just a repeat of the Kirtland game; Ironton had the talent but was out-coached.


As for Burg, their football success goes in waves. They are constantly competitive but not always dominant. You can see this from the past results as well where they go on long runs of dominating the SOC to a 2-3 year run where they don’t win the league. Example: they lost the league in 2011, 12, and 13 only to go on a dominating six year run. Now they are in another lull, but they do have a talented sophomore class that could start another run. This will always be the pattern at Burg.

Unfortunately the reality at Burg is that football isn’t always king. Sure, the fans love it, but players can vary. Example: Holden was a legit D1 prospect, D5 offensive player of the year his junior season, and member of the state championship team. Yet he almost gave up football his senior year to focus on his true passion that was basketball. No interest in playing college football.

In fact, many of Burg’s top athletes that played college ball, didn’t play football. Could create an all-SOC football team with from that list of names.
You could create a team of a buncha kids who couldnt make it past their region is what you could create. 😂😂

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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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BTWNTHE__ wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:23 am
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:14 pm
XandOs wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:55 pm

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


Then why did they move? Were they offered a big NIL deal?
Sorry that the facts upset you.

Keyes’ father was offered a job with the school, so that’s straight forward.

Salyers wanted to play QB, and that wasn’t an option until his cousin moved on at Burg.

As for the others, Pendleton obviously did a good job recruiting them and convincing them to come to Ironton.


Now back to the original point: these kids were all really good athletes. And despite all of these really good athletes, IHS has been unable to bring home a title. Have been out-coached in their final games the last three years.

This is easy to see and understand when you aren’t drinking the kool-aid!
But you didn't offer any facts. Never have. You've offered allegations and innuendo and narrative regarding Ironton. But you've never offered evidence to make any of it fact. - Kinda like how all that "superior culture" at lil burg can hardly ever offer you as a fan, a trip past the region. 😂😂

On the other hand, lil burg only being able to make it out of their own region 3 times in about the last 2 and a half decades is FACT.

lil burg is fairland in Ironton colors. Lol You were lucky enough to get the local spotlight to yaself for a few years, but it went to the fanbases head, and you tend to forget who you are. lol

Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow. Burg is #lilsis💅

#lilsis💅
Haven’t offered any facts that all of these kids listed were great athletes before coming to IHS? I already explained that with facts above.

Or facts that Pendleton was out-coached and beaten by teams with less talent? The results from the last three years prove that.

As for the spotlight, Burg is always there. Hence why you and all of the IHS kool-aid drinkers are on here talking about the Burg. It pains you that Burg won a title in 2017, while you have never seen Ironton win one in your lifetime! 1989 was so long ago!!!


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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BTWNTHE__ wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:49 am
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:12 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:11 am My thoughts from reading these threads are I’m not sure either coaching staff is that great.

I don’t know how anyone can watch Ironton play and think that they are well coached. They do less with more than anyone. Having the most talented team and consistently laying eggs on the state level doesn’t speak to good coaching. They still bring in bunches of players hoping to get to the next level. Players that were developed by other teams who gave them the chance to play prominent roles as Freshmen and Sophomores, and then claim that they were developed in Ironton. Several players have went to the next level and basically none have panned out. Honestly it seems a lot of the Luster has worn off locally.

Wheelersburg is trending down. They don’t constantly win their own conference anymore and haven’t been a threat on the State Level for 5 seasons. Look no further than handing jobs to Sophomores before they’ve accomplished anything on the High School level and it’s easy to see which way the program is going.
Agree with most of what you said.

Ironton: I think Pendleton did a great job coaching his first two years, however, the last three have ended tragically starting with the 30-0 loss to Kirtland. Ironton had far more talent and should never have lost that badly; coaching was exposed in this game.
Loss to Burg the following year was a complete disaster. Can’t put enough lipstick on that pig of a loss.
And then South Range was just a repeat of the Kirtland game; Ironton had the talent but was out-coached.


As for Burg, their football success goes in waves. They are constantly competitive but not always dominant. You can see this from the past results as well where they go on long runs of dominating the SOC to a 2-3 year run where they don’t win the league. Example: they lost the league in 2011, 12, and 13 only to go on a dominating six year run. Now they are in another lull, but they do have a talented sophomore class that could start another run. This will always be the pattern at Burg.

Unfortunately the reality at Burg is that football isn’t always king. Sure, the fans love it, but players can vary. Example: Holden was a legit D1 prospect, D5 offensive player of the year his junior season, and member of the state championship team. Yet he almost gave up football his senior year to focus on his true passion that was basketball. No interest in playing college football.

In fact, many of Burg’s top athletes that played college ball, didn’t play football. Could create an all-SOC football team with from that list of names.
You could create a team of a buncha kids who couldnt make it past their region is what you could create. 😂😂

#lilsis💅
While Ironton, with all the talent they have brought in, still is unable to win a state title against teams with far less. Hell, a win for IHS would be not getting decimated on the big stage each year. Maybe if every player was a D1 recruit, they could pull that off.

Ironton, doing less with more since 1989!!!


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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RBH23 wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:13 am
BTWNTHE__ wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:49 am
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:12 pm

Agree with most of what you said.

Ironton: I think Pendleton did a great job coaching his first two years, however, the last three have ended tragically starting with the 30-0 loss to Kirtland. Ironton had far more talent and should never have lost that badly; coaching was exposed in this game.
Loss to Burg the following year was a complete disaster. Can’t put enough lipstick on that pig of a loss.
And then South Range was just a repeat of the Kirtland game; Ironton had the talent but was out-coached.


As for Burg, their football success goes in waves. They are constantly competitive but not always dominant. You can see this from the past results as well where they go on long runs of dominating the SOC to a 2-3 year run where they don’t win the league. Example: they lost the league in 2011, 12, and 13 only to go on a dominating six year run. Now they are in another lull, but they do have a talented sophomore class that could start another run. This will always be the pattern at Burg.

Unfortunately the reality at Burg is that football isn’t always king. Sure, the fans love it, but players can vary. Example: Holden was a legit D1 prospect, D5 offensive player of the year his junior season, and member of the state championship team. Yet he almost gave up football his senior year to focus on his true passion that was basketball. No interest in playing college football.

In fact, many of Burg’s top athletes that played college ball, didn’t play football. Could create an all-SOC football team with from that list of names.
You could create a team of a buncha kids who couldnt make it past their region is what you could create. 😂😂

#lilsis💅
While Ironton, with all the talent they have brought in, still is unable to win a state title against teams with far less. Hell, a win for IHS would be not getting decimated on the big stage each year. Maybe if every player was a D1 recruit, they could pull that off.

Ironton, doing less with more since 1989!!!
You've made it outta ya region 3 times in 2 and a half DECADES man. 😂 For lil burg even getting there is an anomaly. 😂

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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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BTWNTHE__ wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:19 pm
RBH23 wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:13 am
BTWNTHE__ wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:49 am

You could create a team of a buncha kids who couldnt make it past their region is what you could create. 😂😂

#lilsis💅
While Ironton, with all the talent they have brought in, still is unable to win a state title against teams with far less. Hell, a win for IHS would be not getting decimated on the big stage each year. Maybe if every player was a D1 recruit, they could pull that off.

Ironton, doing less with more since 1989!!!
You've made it outta ya region 3 times in 2 and a half DECADES man. 😂 For lil burg even getting there is an anomaly. 😂

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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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What's so wild to me is all the "...outcoached.." and "..Ironton has the better talent..." and how ironton has been so far superior to kirtland or south range... or any top program (which ironton definitely is one). You guys are most def staring thru those orange colored glasses... riding that however many "d1'' prospects are on the depth chart wave.. Ironton is a great program.. does a ton of stuff right..kids are bought in...community is super supportive.. but until some of these kids pan out...theyre just a really good ohio d5 squad. Theyre producing as many next level kids as the rest of elite ohio programs.. and in all the games that are continually brought up.. the outcome wouldn't have changed no matter who had the clipboard


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Rza1 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:08 am What's so wild to me is all the "...outcoached.." and "..Ironton has the better talent..." and how ironton has been so far superior to kirtland or south range... or any top program (which ironton definitely is one). You guys are most def staring thru those orange colored glasses... riding that however many "d1'' prospects are on the depth chart wave.. Ironton is a great program.. does a ton of stuff right..kids are bought in...community is super supportive.. but until some of these kids pan out...theyre just a really good ohio d5 squad. Theyre producing as many next level kids as the rest of elite ohio programs.. and in all the games that are continually brought up.. the outcome wouldn't have changed no matter who had the clipboard
Kirtland beat IHS 30-0. On Kirtland’s team, only one kid is playing college ball, and he went to John Carroll. Ironton had six kids on that team that are playing D1 college ball.

Ironton loses to Burg the next year despite having five of the kids mentioned above returning and the addition of Perkins. IHS once again with a huge talent advantage.

South Range beats Ironton badly despite Ironton returning four of their highly recruited kids from the prior year while also adding Felder. This South Range team had two seniors heading to play college ball: Baldwin Wallace and Thiel.

With regards to talent, IHS is out producing the other top D5 schools by a wide margin. It’s not even close. However, to your point, maybe the IHS kids were recruited higher than they should be. Even if so, the IHS kids mentioned above are talented enough to play college ball at some level which would still be better than what their competition is producing.

So this once again leads back to coaching. Mistakes are being made; definitely some on the job learning. The game against Burg was a prime example of that. No way should Ironton have lost that game.

In the other games, many mistakes were made that simply can’t happen at that level (ie giving up two blocked punts in back to back games, silly penalties, sloppy turnovers, etc). Sure, maybe Ironton still loses to Kirtland and SR if they play perfect games, but to get completely blown out? Good coaching would have prevented that, especially with the talent advantage Ironton had.


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RBH23 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:03 am
Rza1 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:08 am What's so wild to me is all the "...outcoached.." and "..Ironton has the better talent..." and how ironton has been so far superior to kirtland or south range... or any top program (which ironton definitely is one). You guys are most def staring thru those orange colored glasses... riding that however many "d1'' prospects are on the depth chart wave.. Ironton is a great program.. does a ton of stuff right..kids are bought in...community is super supportive.. but until some of these kids pan out...theyre just a really good ohio d5 squad. Theyre producing as many next level kids as the rest of elite ohio programs.. and in all the games that are continually brought up.. the outcome wouldn't have changed no matter who had the clipboard
Kirtland beat IHS 30-0. On Kirtland’s team, only one kid is playing college ball, and he went to John Carroll. Ironton had six kids on that team that are playing D1 college ball.

Ironton loses to Burg the next year despite having five of the kids mentioned above returning and the addition of Perkins. IHS once again with a huge talent advantage.

South Range beats Ironton badly despite Ironton returning four of their highly recruited kids from the prior year while also adding Felder. This South Range team had two seniors heading to play college ball: Baldwin Wallace and Thiel.

With regards to talent, IHS is out producing the other top D5 schools by a wide margin. It’s not even close. However, to your point, maybe the IHS kids were recruited higher than they should be. Even if so, the IHS kids mentioned above are talented enough to play college ball at some level which would still be better than what their competition is producing.

So this once again leads back to coaching. Mistakes are being made; definitely some on the job learning. The game against Burg was a prime example of that. No way should Ironton have lost that game.

In the other games, many mistakes were made that simply can’t happen at that level (ie giving up two blocked punts in back to back games, silly penalties, sloppy turnovers, etc). Sure, maybe Ironton still loses to Kirtland and SR if they play perfect games, but to get completely blown out? Good coaching would have prevented that, especially with the talent advantage Ironton had.
And meanwhile, after all the "superior coaching and culture" talk from the burg base, lil burg has made it out of their region 3 times in TWO AND A HALF DECADES. 😂

Gotta talk about Ironton losing a title game when lil burgs odds of even seeing one are SLIM to never. 😂

All that talk of lil burgs staff "developing." 👈😂 Develop what? Couch potatoe players during title week and an old sourpuss seops fanbase that has to gossip and hate about the program that is outworking them daily because they know lil burg will not be there. lol. Worry about trying to win your conference. It's not that hard. We beat your conf champion. 😂
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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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RBH23 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:03 am
Rza1 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:08 am What's so wild to me is all the "...outcoached.." and "..Ironton has the better talent..." and how ironton has been so far superior to kirtland or south range... or any top program (which ironton definitely is one). You guys are most def staring thru those orange colored glasses... riding that however many "d1'' prospects are on the depth chart wave.. Ironton is a great program.. does a ton of stuff right..kids are bought in...community is super supportive.. but until some of these kids pan out...theyre just a really good ohio d5 squad. Theyre producing as many next level kids as the rest of elite ohio programs.. and in all the games that are continually brought up.. the outcome wouldn't have changed no matter who had the clipboard
Kirtland beat IHS 30-0. On Kirtland’s team, only one kid is playing college ball, and he went to John Carroll. Ironton had six kids on that team that are playing D1 college ball.

Ironton loses to Burg the next year despite having five of the kids mentioned above returning and the addition of Perkins. IHS once again with a huge talent advantage.

South Range beats Ironton badly despite Ironton returning four of their highly recruited kids from the prior year while also adding Felder. This South Range team had two seniors heading to play college ball: Baldwin Wallace and Thiel.

With regards to talent, IHS is out producing the other top D5 schools by a wide margin. It’s not even close. However, to your point, maybe the IHS kids were recruited higher than they should be. Even if so, the IHS kids mentioned above are talented enough to play college ball at some level which would still be better than what their competition is producing.

So this once again leads back to coaching. Mistakes are being made; definitely some on the job learning. The game against Burg was a prime example of that. No way should Ironton have lost that game.

In the other games, many mistakes were made that simply can’t happen at that level (ie giving up two blocked punts in back to back games, silly penalties, sloppy turnovers, etc). Sure, maybe Ironton still loses to Kirtland and SR if they play perfect games, but to get completely blown out? Good coaching would have prevented that, especially with the talent advantage Ironton had.
So all this coaching and culture and development going on at lil burg gets ya 3 trips beyond your own region in two and a half decades? Lol, what's the issue? Is the coaching and culture and development not what it's hyped up to be, or is the talent just not that good? 😂 It's one or the other? Lol.

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RBH23 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:03 am
Rza1 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:08 am What's so wild to me is all the "...outcoached.." and "..Ironton has the better talent..." and how ironton has been so far superior to kirtland or south range... or any top program (which ironton definitely is one). You guys are most def staring thru those orange colored glasses... riding that however many "d1'' prospects are on the depth chart wave.. Ironton is a great program.. does a ton of stuff right..kids are bought in...community is super supportive.. but until some of these kids pan out...theyre just a really good ohio d5 squad. Theyre producing as many next level kids as the rest of elite ohio programs.. and in all the games that are continually brought up.. the outcome wouldn't have changed no matter who had the clipboard
Kirtland beat IHS 30-0. On Kirtland’s team, only one kid is playing college ball, and he went to John Carroll. Ironton had six kids on that team that are playing D1 college ball.

Ironton loses to Burg the next year despite having five of the kids mentioned above returning and the addition of Perkins. IHS once again with a huge talent advantage.

South Range beats Ironton badly despite Ironton returning four of their highly recruited kids from the prior year while also adding Felder. This South Range team had two seniors heading to play college ball: Baldwin Wallace and Thiel.

With regards to talent, IHS is out producing the other top D5 schools by a wide margin. It’s not even close. However, to your point, maybe the IHS kids were recruited higher than they should be. Even if so, the IHS kids mentioned above are talented enough to play college ball at some level which would still be better than what their competition is producing.

So this once again leads back to coaching. Mistakes are being made; definitely some on the job learning. The game against Burg was a prime example of that. No way should Ironton have lost that game.

In the other games, many mistakes were made that simply can’t happen at that level (ie giving up two blocked punts in back to back games, silly penalties, sloppy turnovers, etc). Sure, maybe Ironton still loses to Kirtland and SR if they play perfect games, but to get completely blown out? Good coaching would have prevented that, especially with the talent advantage Ironton had.
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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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BTWNTHE__ wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:23 pm
RBH23 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:03 am
Rza1 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:08 am What's so wild to me is all the "...outcoached.." and "..Ironton has the better talent..." and how ironton has been so far superior to kirtland or south range... or any top program (which ironton definitely is one). You guys are most def staring thru those orange colored glasses... riding that however many "d1'' prospects are on the depth chart wave.. Ironton is a great program.. does a ton of stuff right..kids are bought in...community is super supportive.. but until some of these kids pan out...theyre just a really good ohio d5 squad. Theyre producing as many next level kids as the rest of elite ohio programs.. and in all the games that are continually brought up.. the outcome wouldn't have changed no matter who had the clipboard
Kirtland beat IHS 30-0. On Kirtland’s team, only one kid is playing college ball, and he went to John Carroll. Ironton had six kids on that team that are playing D1 college ball.

Ironton loses to Burg the next year despite having five of the kids mentioned above returning and the addition of Perkins. IHS once again with a huge talent advantage.

South Range beats Ironton badly despite Ironton returning four of their highly recruited kids from the prior year while also adding Felder. This South Range team had two seniors heading to play college ball: Baldwin Wallace and Thiel.

With regards to talent, IHS is out producing the other top D5 schools by a wide margin. It’s not even close. However, to your point, maybe the IHS kids were recruited higher than they should be. Even if so, the IHS kids mentioned above are talented enough to play college ball at some level which would still be better than what their competition is producing.

So this once again leads back to coaching. Mistakes are being made; definitely some on the job learning. The game against Burg was a prime example of that. No way should Ironton have lost that game.

In the other games, many mistakes were made that simply can’t happen at that level (ie giving up two blocked punts in back to back games, silly penalties, sloppy turnovers, etc). Sure, maybe Ironton still loses to Kirtland and SR if they play perfect games, but to get completely blown out? Good coaching would have prevented that, especially with the talent advantage Ironton had.
So all this coaching and culture and development going on at lil burg gets ya 3 trips beyond your own region in two and a half decades? Lol, what's the issue? Is the coaching and culture and development not what it's hyped up to be, or is the talent just not that good? 😂 It's one or the other? Lol.

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You and the entire community of Ironton would give away every one of those recent regional titles in exchange for the 2017 state title. Hell, IHS would give away all regional titles in the past 30 years for just one more state title.

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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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Rza1 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:08 am What's so wild to me is all the "...outcoached.." and "..Ironton has the better talent..." and how ironton has been so far superior to kirtland or south range... or any top program (which ironton definitely is one). You guys are most def staring thru those orange colored glasses... riding that however many "d1'' prospects are on the depth chart wave.. Ironton is a great program.. does a ton of stuff right..kids are bought in...community is super supportive.. but until some of these kids pan out...theyre just a really good ohio d5 squad. Theyre producing as many next level kids as the rest of elite ohio programs.. and in all the games that are continually brought up.. the outcome wouldn't have changed no matter who had the clipboard
Burg could get more kids d1 rides but they dont keep up and promote their kids. Judging by lil burgs seops base they are way more into praising and promoting the coaches around lil sissies way. 💯 - idk why? 3 trips beyond their own region in 2 and a half decades. lol. How much praise is left in that tank for the seasoned sideline? 😂

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RBH23 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:31 pm
BTWNTHE__ wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:23 pm
RBH23 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:03 am

Kirtland beat IHS 30-0. On Kirtland’s team, only one kid is playing college ball, and he went to John Carroll. Ironton had six kids on that team that are playing D1 college ball.

Ironton loses to Burg the next year despite having five of the kids mentioned above returning and the addition of Perkins. IHS once again with a huge talent advantage.

South Range beats Ironton badly despite Ironton returning four of their highly recruited kids from the prior year while also adding Felder. This South Range team had two seniors heading to play college ball: Baldwin Wallace and Thiel.

With regards to talent, IHS is out producing the other top D5 schools by a wide margin. It’s not even close. However, to your point, maybe the IHS kids were recruited higher than they should be. Even if so, the IHS kids mentioned above are talented enough to play college ball at some level which would still be better than what their competition is producing.

So this once again leads back to coaching. Mistakes are being made; definitely some on the job learning. The game against Burg was a prime example of that. No way should Ironton have lost that game.

In the other games, many mistakes were made that simply can’t happen at that level (ie giving up two blocked punts in back to back games, silly penalties, sloppy turnovers, etc). Sure, maybe Ironton still loses to Kirtland and SR if they play perfect games, but to get completely blown out? Good coaching would have prevented that, especially with the talent advantage Ironton had.
So all this coaching and culture and development going on at lil burg gets ya 3 trips beyond your own region in two and a half decades? Lol, what's the issue? Is the coaching and culture and development not what it's hyped up to be, or is the talent just not that good? 😂 It's one or the other? Lol.

#lilsis👩‍👦
You and the entire community of Ironton would give away every one of those recent regional titles in exchange for the 2017 state title. Hell, IHS would give away all regional titles in the past 30 years for just one more state title.

“Ironton, doing less with more since 1989”!
After you realize it took lil burgs ENTIRE EXISTENCE as a program to match the titles Irontons program got in 10 years it's not the flex ya think it is. 😂

"Oh look, it's you again? What's taking ya so long?" 👈😂

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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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Burgs seops fans: "we just have superior coaching and development and nobody can match our culture." = nice lil decorative way of using lil trendy catchphrases but saying NOTHING .......
BECAUSE - in real life, 3 times ya were able to be the best team in your region in TWO AND A HALF DECADES!! 👈😂

Burgs "superior coaching, development, culture" b.s. is the equivalent of when fans say the not so athletic choir boy who made the team "makes up for what he lacks in talent with heart." 👈😂😂😂 "he's a hustler." Lmao "A gritty kid " 👈😂 F.O.H.!! LMAO

maybe you should worry about tryna make it out of ya region so you can show us instead of just talk about what Ironton is doing? Can they do that? Lol

Have my doubts. Your superior coaching, development, and culture LOST to every ranked d5 regional opponent you played.last year and also lost to Jackson. Then we beat all the teams that beat you? 😂

Falling behind again #lilsis👩‍👦 try to pump those lil short legs and keep up. 😂


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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BTWNTHE__ wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:33 pm
Rza1 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:08 am What's so wild to me is all the "...outcoached.." and "..Ironton has the better talent..." and how ironton has been so far superior to kirtland or south range... or any top program (which ironton definitely is one). You guys are most def staring thru those orange colored glasses... riding that however many "d1'' prospects are on the depth chart wave.. Ironton is a great program.. does a ton of stuff right..kids are bought in...community is super supportive.. but until some of these kids pan out...theyre just a really good ohio d5 squad. Theyre producing as many next level kids as the rest of elite ohio programs.. and in all the games that are continually brought up.. the outcome wouldn't have changed no matter who had the clipboard
Burg could get more kids d1 rides but they dont keep up and promote their kids. Judging by lil burgs seops base they are way more into praising and promoting the coaches around lil sissies way. 💯 - idk why? 3 trips beyond their own region in 2 and a half decades. lol. How much praise is left in that tank for the seasoned sideline? 😂

#fumesofnostalgia
#lilsis👩‍👦
#FairlandnIrontonColors
Good point, because it’s unheard of Burg kids getting scholarships in sports. 🤦‍♂️

You think Ironton kids are getting scholarships due to being promoted properly? LMAO!! They are getting those because they are super athletes, especially the ones recruited.

- Keyes and Washington didn’t get scholarships because of Ironton. They got scholarships because they worked hard and were athletically blessed at birth. Just like their cousins/brothers playing at Southern Miss and Memphis.

- Pittman? His brother was a superstar player who received a D1 football scholarship.

- Salyers? His dad, uncle, and cousin all received college scholarships to play football/basketball.

- Perkins? Third team all state as a sophomore playing for Valley. He was talented and already known before stepping on the field at Ironton.

The point? IHS wasn’t the reason these young men are going to play at the next level. Their physical size, strength, work ethic, and skills are why. Plus, if IHS is so good at promoting their athletes, how come only the football players (and mostly the recruits) are the ones getting college attention? Surely IHS can promote those in other sports equally well?


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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RBH23 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:59 pm
BTWNTHE__ wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:33 pm
Rza1 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:08 am What's so wild to me is all the "...outcoached.." and "..Ironton has the better talent..." and how ironton has been so far superior to kirtland or south range... or any top program (which ironton definitely is one). You guys are most def staring thru those orange colored glasses... riding that however many "d1'' prospects are on the depth chart wave.. Ironton is a great program.. does a ton of stuff right..kids are bought in...community is super supportive.. but until some of these kids pan out...theyre just a really good ohio d5 squad. Theyre producing as many next level kids as the rest of elite ohio programs.. and in all the games that are continually brought up.. the outcome wouldn't have changed no matter who had the clipboard
Burg could get more kids d1 rides but they dont keep up and promote their kids. Judging by lil burgs seops base they are way more into praising and promoting the coaches around lil sissies way. 💯 - idk why? 3 trips beyond their own region in 2 and a half decades. lol. How much praise is left in that tank for the seasoned sideline? 😂

#fumesofnostalgia
#lilsis👩‍👦
#FairlandnIrontonColors
Good point, because it’s unheard of Burg kids getting scholarships in sports. 🤦‍♂️

You think Ironton kids are getting scholarships due to being promoted properly? LMAO!! They are getting those because they are super athletes, especially the ones recruited.

- Keyes and Washington didn’t get scholarships because of Ironton. They got scholarships because they worked hard and were athletically blessed at birth. Just like their cousins/brothers playing at Southern Miss and Memphis.

- Pittman? His brother was a superstar player who received a D1 football scholarship.

- Salyers? His dad, uncle, and cousin all received college scholarships to play football/basketball.

- Perkins? Third team all state as a sophomore playing for Valley. He was talented and already known before stepping on the field at Ironton.

The point? IHS wasn’t the reason these young men are going to play at the next level. Their physical size, strength, work ethic, and skills are why. Plus, if IHS is so good at promoting their athletes, how come only the football players (and mostly the recruits) are the ones getting college attention? Surely IHS can promote those in other sports equally well?


What I'd like to know are any of these kids that got these D1 scholarships actually doing anything or they just on the team? I know the ones off of last years team haven't started yet, but what about the others???

It's great these kids got these scholarships and at least hopefully they ride it out and at least get an education out of it but I have to think they would love to be playing instead of riding the pine.


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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RBH23 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:59 pm
BTWNTHE__ wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:33 pm
Rza1 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:08 am What's so wild to me is all the "...outcoached.." and "..Ironton has the better talent..." and how ironton has been so far superior to kirtland or south range... or any top program (which ironton definitely is one). You guys are most def staring thru those orange colored glasses... riding that however many "d1'' prospects are on the depth chart wave.. Ironton is a great program.. does a ton of stuff right..kids are bought in...community is super supportive.. but until some of these kids pan out...theyre just a really good ohio d5 squad. Theyre producing as many next level kids as the rest of elite ohio programs.. and in all the games that are continually brought up.. the outcome wouldn't have changed no matter who had the clipboard
Burg could get more kids d1 rides but they dont keep up and promote their kids. Judging by lil burgs seops base they are way more into praising and promoting the coaches around lil sissies way. 💯 - idk why? 3 trips beyond their own region in 2 and a half decades. lol. How much praise is left in that tank for the seasoned sideline? 😂

#fumesofnostalgia
#lilsis👩‍👦
#FairlandnIrontonColors
Good point, because it’s unheard of Burg kids getting scholarships in sports. 🤦‍♂️

You think Ironton kids are getting scholarships due to being promoted properly? LMAO!! They are getting those because they are super athletes, especially the ones recruited.

- Keyes and Washington didn’t get scholarships because of Ironton. They got scholarships because they worked hard and were athletically blessed at birth. Just like their cousins/brothers playing at Southern Miss and Memphis.

- Pittman? His brother was a superstar player who received a D1 football scholarship.

- Salyers? His dad, uncle, and cousin all received college scholarships to play football/basketball.

- Perkins? Third team all state as a sophomore playing for Valley. He was talented and already known before stepping on the field at Ironton.

The point? IHS wasn’t the reason these young men are going to play at the next level. Their physical size, strength, work ethic, and skills are why. Plus, if IHS is so good at promoting their athletes, how come only the football players (and mostly the recruits) are the ones getting college attention? Surely IHS can promote those in other sports equally well?
That TALENT wanted to be Tigers. They were not attracted to 3 trips past the region in two and a half decades. All this means is Irontons staff OUTWORKS lil burgs staff on & OFF the field. lil burgs staff is probably tired. Age is starting to be a factor. I think lil burg fans meant STALE instead of "superior" culture. 💯😂

#lilsis👩‍👦


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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yabbadabbadoo wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:27 pm
RBH23 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:59 pm
BTWNTHE__ wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:33 pm

Burg could get more kids d1 rides but they dont keep up and promote their kids. Judging by lil burgs seops base they are way more into praising and promoting the coaches around lil sissies way. 💯 - idk why? 3 trips beyond their own region in 2 and a half decades. lol. How much praise is left in that tank for the seasoned sideline? 😂

#fumesofnostalgia
#lilsis👩‍👦
#FairlandnIrontonColors
Good point, because it’s unheard of Burg kids getting scholarships in sports. 🤦‍♂️

You think Ironton kids are getting scholarships due to being promoted properly? LMAO!! They are getting those because they are super athletes, especially the ones recruited.

- Keyes and Washington didn’t get scholarships because of Ironton. They got scholarships because they worked hard and were athletically blessed at birth. Just like their cousins/brothers playing at Southern Miss and Memphis.

- Pittman? His brother was a superstar player who received a D1 football scholarship.

- Salyers? His dad, uncle, and cousin all received college scholarships to play football/basketball.

- Perkins? Third team all state as a sophomore playing for Valley. He was talented and already known before stepping on the field at Ironton.

The point? IHS wasn’t the reason these young men are going to play at the next level. Their physical size, strength, work ethic, and skills are why. Plus, if IHS is so good at promoting their athletes, how come only the football players (and mostly the recruits) are the ones getting college attention? Surely IHS can promote those in other sports equally well?


What I'd like to know are any of these kids that got these D1 scholarships actually doing anything or they just on the team? I know the ones off of last years team haven't started yet, but what about the others???

It's great these kids got these scholarships and at least hopefully they ride it out and at least get an education out of it but I have to think they would love to be playing instead of riding the pine.
I bet the lil burg kids would love to get past their region more than 3 times in like two and a half decades. 😂

I bet the lil burg kids would like to be able to have beaten a ranked opponent from their region last season also. Lol

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