2024 Wheelersburg Pirates

[wobycat]

do you think the difficult schedule is making the program better or is it just adding 2-3 sure fire losses to the schedule every year. I'm not sure were going any farther in the playoffs than we would without playing ironton, jackson and prep. I'm starting to see after all the losses that the kids go into those games now not believing they can win. If you can go watch the prep playoff film. Some of our kids appeared to be going through the motions? maybe its just me expecting to much. Asking because I think you know Burg football and respect your opinion

I think you are who you are. Tough schedule or not. These seniors were a bunch of kids who grew up playing burg football other than lattimore who I thought came in and bought in and played well. I wish that kid the best. Seems like a great kid. But they grew up. Most thought they wouldn’t be very good. In fact, the team ahead of them were supposed to be a team to make more noise but it ended up this team going farther.

There is a lot on the burg kids. First there is the pressure of winning. I know they practice long hours week in and week out. They also have leadership breakfast early morning on game days. Not sure if that makes them gassed towards the end of a long season. I think back just the last three years and burg was regional runner up two out of the three years and we’ve had more talented past teams. Prep is just a recruiting machine like Hartley back in the day. Tough to overcome.

It’s hard to say if the kids are gassed. They seem to build momentum towards the end but this past game they weren’t very sharp. So who knows.

honest reply, thanks
I think the 2022 group might have been better if there qb hadnt quit on them and moved to PHS

Definitely would have helped defensively for sure.

[Tri_State79]

do you think the difficult schedule is making the program better or is it just adding 2-3 sure fire losses to the schedule every year. I'm not sure were going any farther in the playoffs than we would without playing ironton, jackson and prep. I'm starting to see after all the losses that the kids go into those games now not believing they can win. If you can go watch the prep playoff film. Some of our kids appeared to be going through the motions? maybe its just me expecting to much. Asking because I think you know Burg football and respect your opinion

I think you are who you are. Tough schedule or not. These seniors were a bunch of kids who grew up playing burg football other than lattimore who I thought came in and bought in and played well. I wish that kid the best. Seems like a great kid. But they grew up. Most thought they wouldn’t be very good. In fact, the team ahead of them were supposed to be a team to make more noise but it ended up this team going farther.

There is a lot on the burg kids. First there is the pressure of winning. I know they practice long hours week in and week out. They also have leadership breakfast early morning on game days. Not sure if that makes them gassed towards the end of a long season. I think back just the last three years and burg was regional runner up two out of the three years and we’ve had more talented past teams. Prep is just a recruiting machine like Hartley back in the day. Tough to overcome.

It’s hard to say if the kids are gassed. They seem to build momentum towards the end but this past game they weren’t very sharp. So who knows.

honest reply, thanks
I think the 2022 group might have been better if there qb hadnt quit on them and moved to PHS

Burg has the talent to win. Do pretty good on D. Sp teams always good. Their personnel doesn't fit the offense.

[TigerBob]

I know that playing a worse schedule won’t make you a better team.

Strength of schedule is overrated. Don’t want 10 cupcakes, but don’t want a bunch of tough games either. Kirtland plays a couple decent teams every year with most games being blowouts. They do just fine come playoff time.

I’d argue that small schools playing too difficult a schedule is bad for playoff success. Just don’t have the depth to handle many competitive games.

But we’ll see next year how well Ironton’s tougher schedule helps them.

They also play an insane JV schedule for development. So those kids have seen elite many times.

[Tri_State79]

I know that playing a worse schedule won’t make you a better team.

Strength of schedule is overrated. Don’t want 10 cupcakes, but don’t want a bunch of tough games either. Kirtland plays a couple decent teams every year with most games being blowouts. They do just fine come playoff time.

I’d argue that small schools playing too difficult a schedule is bad for playoff success. Just don’t have the depth to handle many competitive games.

But we’ll see next year how well Ironton’s tougher schedule helps them.

They also play an insane JV schedule for development. So those kids have seen elite many times.

Per recent success vs teams in the region, Ironton has the athletes to play up.

Burg. Not so much. Still trying to be competitive locally. Maybe in a few years if they continue to evolve talent wise.

[RBH23]

Strength of schedule is overrated. Don’t want 10 cupcakes, but don’t want a bunch of tough games either. Kirtland plays a couple decent teams every year with most games being blowouts. They do just fine come playoff time.

I’d argue that small schools playing too difficult a schedule is bad for playoff success. Just don’t have the depth to handle many competitive games.

But we’ll see next year how well Ironton’s tougher schedule helps them.

They also play an insane JV schedule for development. So those kids have seen elite many times.

Per recent success vs teams in the region, Ironton has the athletes to play up.

Burg. Not so much. Still trying to be competitive locally. Maybe in a few years if they continue to evolve talent wise.

Playing up year in and year out as a D5 school is tough. Will take a toll.

[Tri_State79]

They also play an insane JV schedule for development. So those kids have seen elite many times.

Per recent success vs teams in the region, Ironton has the athletes to play up.

Burg. Not so much. Still trying to be competitive locally. Maybe in a few years if they continue to evolve talent wise.

Playing up year in and year out as a D5 school is tough. Will take a toll.

I agree man. Especially with no buy week vs deep physical rosters. It's gonna take its toll.and it's gonna demand the coaches step their game up. Pressure is on the sideline in 24 for Ironton.

[Tri_State79]

They also play an insane JV schedule for development. So those kids have seen elite many times.

Per recent success vs teams in the region, Ironton has the athletes to play up.

Burg. Not so much. Still trying to be competitive locally. Maybe in a few years if they continue to evolve talent wise.

Playing up year in and year out as a D5 school is tough. Will take a toll.

I think the season is gonna be a real grind.

Lets use Ironton as an example. I've seen speculations about the 24 schedule so let's go on that for now.

Burg
Jackson
Midland at Marshall

1st 3 weeks back to back? Then let's say back home vs Bishop Hartley week 4?

Sheesh.

[Tri_State79]

Per recent success vs teams in the region, Ironton has the athletes to play up.

Burg. Not so much. Still trying to be competitive locally. Maybe in a few years if they continue to evolve talent wise.

Playing up year in and year out as a D5 school is tough. Will take a toll.

I think the season is gonna be a real grind.

Lets use Ironton as an example. I've seen speculations about the 24 schedule so let's go on that for now.

Burg
Jackson
Midland at Marshall

1st 3 weeks back to back? Then let's say back home vs Bishop Hartley week 4?

Sheesh.

Not an easy task for even a very talented Ironton team.

[Tri_State79]

Burg fans.

Let's flip dates.

We can play portsmouth week one and save you for week 10?

Those in favor?

[Tri_State79]

Ironton vs Burg week 10
1 week b4 burgs conf title game depending ofc
2 weeks b4 week one playoffs?

[SPelf]

I gauge per recent results. As far as Burg goes last 2 seasons vs Ironton, Jackson, and Prep they are 0 - 8.

"i gauge per recent results, also, here is Ironton's titles from the 70's and 80's, we were so tough then"

[Tri_State79]

I gauge per recent results. As far as Burg goes last 2 seasons vs Ironton, Jackson, and Prep they are 0 - 8.

"i gauge per recent results, also, here is Ironton's titles from the 70's and 80's, we were so tough then"

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[fbnut]

Never been a fan of the bubble screen but perry sure does execute it well

[yabbadabbadoo]

Never been a fan of the bubble screen but perry sure does execute it well

Burg used it quite a bit in 2017 and it worked well. Usually threw it to Holden or Lowery for big gains.

[Sonny Weaver]

sounds like Wheelersburg will be moving up to DIV

[RBH23]

sounds like Wheelersburg will be moving up to DIV

Where did you get that info?

[CuckooNest]

sounds like Wheelersburg will be moving up to DIV

Where did you get that info?

Preliminary numbers on OHSAA has them at 204 boys for 2024-25. They were 176 last cycle and close to DIV weren’t they? Not a stretch to see them move up with CB and all.

[RBH23]

sounds like Wheelersburg will be moving up to DIV

Where did you get that info?

Preliminary numbers on OHSAA has them at 204 boys for 2024-25. They were 176 last cycle and close to DIV weren’t they? Not a stretch to see them move up with CB and all.

Last year, Burg was 195 including CB. About 20 teams ahead of them with the largest D5 school being 204.

[Sonny Weaver]

sounds like Wheelersburg will be moving up to DIV

Where did you get that info?

couple coaches on staff, we have appealed for a recount

[RBH23]

sounds like Wheelersburg will be moving up to DIV

Where did you get that info?

couple coaches on staff, we have appealed for a recount

Thanks for the info.

Seems like quite the jump for Burg. Has enrollment went up?