POY in Soc3 predictions

[transplant]

How does the voting work? Each coach gets one vote? Or do they rank the top 3 and most points wins?

[wobycat]

Maybe Lattimores attitude when things aren’t going his way played a role in the coaches not voting him player of the year.

Then That would be wrong. I saw Roberts have the same attitude. But both of those players produced “a player of the year “ performance.

[SoutheastHoopsWizard]

Maybe Lattimores attitude when things aren’t going his way played a role in the coaches not voting him player of the year.

Then That would be wrong. I saw Roberts have the same attitude. But both of those players produced “a player of the year “ performance.

Although i agree with wobycats observations, im not sure i completely do on this one. I think a players attitude is very important and can influence some not to vote for them. I agree Roberts body language and attitude still seems very bad (which shocks me with Norm there).

It has to be more than numbers, or at least in the not so distant past, many coaches would not allow much of what we see out of several of rhe players mentioned here.

I guess their stats would have been reduced through reduction of playing time. Maybe it doesn't matter now as much as it used to? Should it? Or is it all about winning and numbers now?

[wobycat]

Maybe Lattimores attitude when things aren’t going his way played a role in the coaches not voting him player of the year.

Then That would be wrong. I saw Roberts have the same attitude. But both of those players produced “a player of the year “ performance.

Although i agree with wobycats observations, im not sure i do on this one. I think a players attitude is very important and can influence some not to vote for them.

It has to be more than nunbers, or at least in the not so distant past, many coaches would not allow much of what we see out of several of rhe players mentioned here.

I guess their stats would have been reduced through reduction of playing time.

Attitude is a learned behavior from all sorts of contributing factors. What is a coach to do? Sit and take out his best player to prove a point and lose important games? Or does he try to cautiously try to remove that from the player?

All coaches deal with this today, and should understand. That's why they should vote on the production of the player and not based on feelings. It demonstrates a quality of resentment that this player was instrumental in winning a conference championship.

Unfortunately, this type of behavior is seen in a lot of high school athletes today. What do we expect? Social media makes them out to be some sort of icon in the community. This could be fixed if the governing body would be strict in enforcing penalties for such behavior but you'd probably have to start in the stands first.

[SoutheastHoopsWizard]

There is no doubt that Lattimore is a great player and in no way am i saying he did or didnt deserve the POY award. I have not warched hin in person but a couple of games. Same with Roberts also.
Im just trying to say maybe, if what i watched at the convo was more of the normal and not the exception, that it COULD have possibly influenced some coaches negatively?

[The Ghost of Swanker]

Maybe Lattimores attitude when things aren’t going his way played a role in the coaches not voting him player of the year.

Then That would be wrong. I saw Roberts have the same attitude. But both of those players produced “a player of the year “ performance.

There are no players statistically close to Roberts in the district in d4. Also ER compared to DL all season has been a saint.

[wobycat]

There is no doubt that Lattimore is a great player and in no way am i saying he did or didnt deserve the POY award. I have not warched hin in person but a couple of games. Same with Roberts also.
Im just trying to say maybe, if what i watched at the convo was more of the normal and not the exception, that it COULD have possibly influenced some coaches negatively?

It probably did. He griped a lot and talked some smacked but I also thought he was respectful at the end of games. Just the way he played.

[wobycat]

Maybe Lattimores attitude when things aren’t going his way played a role in the coaches not voting him player of the year.

Then That would be wrong. I saw Roberts have the same attitude. But both of those players produced “a player of the year “ performance.

There are no players statistically close to Roberts in the district in d4. Also ER compared to DL all season has been a saint.

Of course he was. Go back and read your own posts on ER. You were brutal.

[yabbadabbadoo]

There is no doubt that Lattimore is a great player and in no way am i saying he did or didnt deserve the POY award. I have not warched hin in person but a couple of games. Same with Roberts also.
Im just trying to say maybe, if what i watched at the convo was more of the normal and not the exception, that it COULD have possibly influenced some coaches negatively?

Plus throw in the fact that he is playing for Burg was probably the biggest factor. If he is at any other school in the SOCIII i bet he is the POY

Same old song and dance. I still can't wrap my head as to why Copley got it playing on a 4th place team!!! So without him they finish in 5th place?? Pathetic. Kids a good player but not the best player in the league this year.

[Elijah Craig]

Then That would be wrong. I saw Roberts have the same attitude. But both of those players produced “a player of the year “ performance.

Although i agree with wobycats observations, im not sure i do on this one. I think a players attitude is very important and can influence some not to vote for them.

It has to be more than nunbers, or at least in the not so distant past, many coaches would not allow much of what we see out of several of rhe players mentioned here.

I guess their stats would have been reduced through reduction of playing time.

Attitude is a learned behavior from all sorts of contributing factors. What is a coach to do? Sit and take out his best player to prove a point and lose important games? Or does he try to cautiously try to remove that from the player?

All coaches deal with this today, and should understand. That's why they should vote on the production of the player and not based on feelings. It demonstrates a quality of resentment that this player was instrumental in winning a conference championship.

Unfortunately, this type of behavior is seen in a lot of high school athletes today. What do we expect? Social media makes them out to be some sort of icon in the community. This could be fixed if the governing body would be strict in enforcing penalties for such behavior but you'd probably have to start in the stands first.

Exactly! It drives me nuts to see the 3 Fingers (up, down, in their arm etc). That’s learned from TV.
i watched a kid in the first game turn to the opposing teams bench after a three pointer, and do that! no consequences

Refs just let it happen

[Hoopster98]

Taunting is a big issue these days in high school sports. It's ok to show emotion but when you do it at an opposing player or their team then to me that results in a T.

[SoutheastHoopsWizard]

Taunting is a big issue these days in high school sports. It's ok to show emotion but when you do it at an opposing player or their team then to me that results in a T.

Agreed. Players questioning the officials, taunting other players, speaking to the opposing teams bench, etc. is becoming the new norm.

It seems to be accepted by coaches, officials, and communities but im worried about what i am seeing! I remember getting a technical back in the day for putting my hands out after being called for an incorrect foul. My coach immediately pulled me out of the game. As i tried to explain to my coach why the call was wrong he simply told me it was his job to question calls and mine to shutup and play. When the bus got back to the school, i had to run before going home.

[yabbadabbadoo]

Taunting is a big issue these days in high school sports. It's ok to show emotion but when you do it at an opposing player or their team then to me that results in a T.

Agreed. Players questioning the officials, taunting other players, speaking to the opposing teams bench, etc. is becoming the new norm.

It seems to be accepted by coaches, officials, and communities but im worried about what i am seeing! I remember getting a technical back in the day for putting my hands out after being called for an incorrect foul. My coach immediately pulled me out of the game. As i tried to explain to my coach why the call was wrong he simply told me it was his job to question calls and mine to shutup and play. When the bus got back to the school, i had to run before going home.

Yep, it is sad what these kids get away with anymore. No discipline at home and none at school either.

[The Ghost of Swanker]

Then That would be wrong. I saw Roberts have the same attitude. But both of those players produced “a player of the year “ performance.

There are no players statistically close to Roberts in the district in d4. Also ER compared to DL all season has been a saint.

Of course he was. Go back and read your own posts on ER. You were brutal.

No. He was lazy and lacked effort for a little stretch of the season. Every game I’ve watched DL play he’s been mouthy. Portsmouth and Minford especially. I’m sure Shoemaker didn’t vote for him.

[yabbadabbadoo]

There are no players statistically close to Roberts in the district in d4. Also ER compared to DL all season has been a saint.

Of course he was. Go back and read your own posts on ER. You were brutal.

No. He was lazy and lacked effort for a little stretch of the season. Every game I’ve watched DL play he’s been mouthy. Portsmouth and Minford especially. I’m sure Shoemaker didn’t vote for him.

Come on man, Portsmouth!!! The school he left that kicked him off the football team. The team that trashed talked him the whole football game in the playoffs? You can't not think he wasn't going to talk trash in that game because I'm sure he was getting it back.

The Minford game, yeah uncalled for. He got T'd up in that one I think so I will give you that one.

Plus, he must have not been too bad as Pendleton sure did want him at Ironton. DL's Mom wanted him to play at Burg. I think it worked out great for both.