SOC2 2024

[Proud_Pirate63]

Enrollment numbers are making this an interesting Spring.

Preliminary numbers as follows:
Oak Hill 152
Waverly 213
West 161
Wheelersburg 204
Minford 156
Valley 138
Northwest 155

2022-23 Division Breakdowns
DIV 269-202
DV 201-154
DVI 153-113

Of course the numbers can be appealed, and the divisional breakdowns can shift a few each way to even up the total number in each division, so this is all subject to change.

What are the odds Waverly and Wheelersburg go to DIV?
Could one or more of Oak Hill, Minford, or Northwest Drop to DVI?
How would Wheelersburg and Waverly feel about playing in a league of DVI teams?

Word on the street is that Burg will be D4. Still working with OHSAA on the numbers but unlikely they stay D5.

D4 or D5 doesn’t really matter. Wheelersburg will play hard to the last whistle against whoever they are matched up with in the playoffs.

[RBH23]

Enrollment numbers are making this an interesting Spring.

Preliminary numbers as follows:
Oak Hill 152
Waverly 213
West 161
Wheelersburg 204
Minford 156
Valley 138
Northwest 155

2022-23 Division Breakdowns
DIV 269-202
DV 201-154
DVI 153-113

Of course the numbers can be appealed, and the divisional breakdowns can shift a few each way to even up the total number in each division, so this is all subject to change.

What are the odds Waverly and Wheelersburg go to DIV?
Could one or more of Oak Hill, Minford, or Northwest Drop to DVI?
How would Wheelersburg and Waverly feel about playing in a league of DVI teams?

Word on the street is that Burg will be D4. Still working with OHSAA on the numbers but unlikely they stay D5.

D4 or D5 doesn’t really matter. Wheelersburg will play hard to the last whistle against whoever they are matched up with in the playoffs.

True, Burg plays hard no matter what. However getting stuck in the D4 region out of Cincy (Wyoming, Clinton Massie…) will suck.

[Proud_Pirate63]

Word on the street is that Burg will be D4. Still working with OHSAA on the numbers but unlikely they stay D5.

D4 or D5 doesn’t really matter. Wheelersburg will play hard to the last whistle against whoever they are matched up with in the playoffs.

True, Burg plays hard no matter what. However getting stuck in the D4 region out of Cincy (Wyoming, Clinton Massie…) will suck.

Yes it will be challenging. But as a life long Pirate, I am sure they will be up for it.

[Billy Brave]

Interesting

[Jason Vorhees]

There’s 3 guarantees in life:
Taxes, Death, and Wheelersburg having a winning record and competing if not winning the SOC2 in Football.

36 out of the last 52 SOC Championships have went to Wheelersburg. Nearly 70% in over a 50 year period. Their records against Conference foes goes as such:

Minford: 63-6
Northwest: 49-8
Oak Hill: 18-9-1
Portsmouth West: 47-27-2
Valley: 42-5
Waverly: 50-27

Total: 269-82-3
70.6%

[SOC_Fan08]

The new Minford Coach seems to be bringing some good experience with his assistants in Gifford as Oline and Wilcoxin as OC.

[wobycat]

The new Minford Coach seems to be bringing some good experience with his assistants in Gifford as Oline and Wilcoxin as OC.

Smart Hires

[CuckooNest]

Valley gets to be biggest school in DVI. They're also about one transfer from DV and trending up.
West goes to DVI, will they stay or is a class just small?
Minford is trending toward DVI soon.

What impact will this have on playoff points and seeding for Wheelersburg and Waverly? If in the next year or two half the league is DVI does that force SOC to expand?

School 2021 2022 2023 2023 D/R 2023 2024 2024 2024 D/R
EMIS CB Total EMIS CB Total
Waverly 240 9 249 IV/16 213 9 222 IV/15
Wheelersburg 176 19 195 V/19 182 13 195 V/19
West 160 8 168 V/19 140 12 152 VI/24
Northwest 160 5 165 V/19 155 4 159 V/19
Oak Hill 147 8 155 VI/23 152 18 170 V/19
Minford 167 9 176 V/19 156 10 166 V/19
Valley 122 9 131 VI/23 138 18 156 VI/24

2023 2024
DIV 205-273 205-262
DV 158-204 158-204
DVI 115-157 113-157

[art_vandelay]

West probably stays D6 going forward from what I hear. There looks to be a slight drop in talent on the horizon from what I saw from their junior high last season, but they always going to be competitive regardless of numbers. Valley has a couple of big classes coming through and a few more transfers than usual, but would bet they will stay D6 as well.

Oak Hill, Minford, and Northwest all would have been D6 before their CB numbers were added in. If those schools "manage" their open enrollment/transfers better, they could drop down to D6 at the next count as well.

Don't know how all that affects SOC expansion, but can't imagine Burg and Waverly want to be playing mostly D6 conference games going forward.*

[greygoose]

West probably stays D6 going forward from what I hear. There looks to be a slight drop in talent on the horizon from what I saw from their junior high last season, but they always going to be competitive regardless of numbers. Valley has a couple of big classes coming through and a few more transfers than usual, but would bet they will stay D6 as well.

Oak Hill, Minford, and Northwest all would have been D6 before their CB numbers were added in. If those schools "manage" their open enrollment/transfers better, they could drop down to D6 at the next count as well.

Don't know how all that affects SOC expansion, but can't imagine Burg and Waverly want to be playing mostly D6 conference games going forward.*

Why's that?? They can't control when a team moves up and down in terms of division, can't sit there and try and bounce around conferences based on that. Where would they go OVC?? They don't want them, Unioto seems perfectly content in the SVC rolling against those schools plus there's much more to it than football. Waverly will have a new coach next year so maybe all of this changes but I'm doubting it.

[art_vandelay]

West probably stays D6 going forward from what I hear. There looks to be a slight drop in talent on the horizon from what I saw from their junior high last season, but they always going to be competitive regardless of numbers. Valley has a couple of big classes coming through and a few more transfers than usual, but would bet they will stay D6 as well.

Oak Hill, Minford, and Northwest all would have been D6 before their CB numbers were added in. If those schools "manage" their open enrollment/transfers better, they could drop down to D6 at the next count as well.

Don't know how all that affects SOC expansion, but can't imagine Burg and Waverly want to be playing mostly D6 conference games going forward.*

Why's that?? They can't control when a team moves up and down in terms of division, can't sit there and try and bounce around conferences based on that. Where would they go OVC?? They don't want them, Unioto seems perfectly content in the SVC rolling against those schools plus there's much more to it than football. Waverly will have a new coach next year so maybe all of this changes but I'm doubting it.

Figured it'd be more reason for Burg/Waverly to push SOC expansion to add bigger schools (Portsmouth and Ironton for starters). Maybe they both fine though with playing 4-5 D6 schools/year with the expanded playoffs, but don't see that schedule preparing them for deep playoff runs in D4/D5*

[Sonny Weaver]

The new Minford Coach seems to be bringing some good experience with his assistants in Gifford as Oline and Wilcoxin as OC.

Smart Hires

Gifford was such a solid coach he sent his kids to play for other programs

[greygoose]

West probably stays D6 going forward from what I hear. There looks to be a slight drop in talent on the horizon from what I saw from their junior high last season, but they always going to be competitive regardless of numbers. Valley has a couple of big classes coming through and a few more transfers than usual, but would bet they will stay D6 as well.

Oak Hill, Minford, and Northwest all would have been D6 before their CB numbers were added in. If those schools "manage" their open enrollment/transfers better, they could drop down to D6 at the next count as well.

Don't know how all that affects SOC expansion, but can't imagine Burg and Waverly want to be playing mostly D6 conference games going forward.*

Why's that?? They can't control when a team moves up and down in terms of division, can't sit there and try and bounce around conferences based on that. Where would they go OVC?? They don't want them, Unioto seems perfectly content in the SVC rolling against those schools plus there's much more to it than football. Waverly will have a new coach next year so maybe all of this changes but I'm doubting it.

Figured it'd be more reason for Burg/Waverly to push SOC expansion to add bigger schools (Portsmouth and Ironton for starters). Maybe they both fine though with playing 4-5 D6 schools/year with the expanded playoffs, but don't see that schedule preparing them for deep playoff runs in D4/D5*

Ironton as an independent would make things easier but I don’t believe any team outside of Wheelersburg would vote them in. Portsmouth now with Ironton is out of OVC really have zero reason to leave unless it’s just a travel thing. Seems like Wheelersburgs schedule has suited them just fine believe they were in SOC when they won state. Waverly is in one of the toughest regions in DIV playing D3 schools isn’t going to help the coaching isn’t there for that.

[Jeaux Burreaux]

Why's that?? They can't control when a team moves up and down in terms of division, can't sit there and try and bounce around conferences based on that. Where would they go OVC?? They don't want them, Unioto seems perfectly content in the SVC rolling against those schools plus there's much more to it than football. Waverly will have a new coach next year so maybe all of this changes but I'm doubting it.

Figured it'd be more reason for Burg/Waverly to push SOC expansion to add bigger schools (Portsmouth and Ironton for starters). Maybe they both fine though with playing 4-5 D6 schools/year with the expanded playoffs, but don't see that schedule preparing them for deep playoff runs in D4/D5*

Ironton as an independent would make things easier but I don’t believe any team outside of Wheelersburg would vote them in. Portsmouth now with Ironton is out of OVC really have zero reason to leave unless it’s just a travel thing. Seems like Wheelersburgs schedule has suited them just fine believe they were in SOC when they won state. Waverly is in one of the toughest regions in DIV playing D3 schools isn’t going to help the coaching isn’t there for that.

Waverly has moved to the much more geographic region 15 now and it is lesser than the previous region they were in 16.
Plus all of the heavy hitters in R15 have moved up to DIII. Hartley, Stuebenville, Sheridan all up a division

[RBH23]

Why's that?? They can't control when a team moves up and down in terms of division, can't sit there and try and bounce around conferences based on that. Where would they go OVC?? They don't want them, Unioto seems perfectly content in the SVC rolling against those schools plus there's much more to it than football. Waverly will have a new coach next year so maybe all of this changes but I'm doubting it.

Figured it'd be more reason for Burg/Waverly to push SOC expansion to add bigger schools (Portsmouth and Ironton for starters). Maybe they both fine though with playing 4-5 D6 schools/year with the expanded playoffs, but don't see that schedule preparing them for deep playoff runs in D4/D5*

Ironton as an independent would make things easier but I don’t believe any team outside of Wheelersburg would vote them in. Portsmouth now with Ironton is out of OVC really have zero reason to leave unless it’s just a travel thing. Seems like Wheelersburgs schedule has suited them just fine believe they were in SOC when they won state. Waverly is in one of the toughest regions in DIV playing D3 schools isn’t going to help the coaching isn’t there for that.

Agree. SOC will not vote in Ironton, and Portsmouth’s only chance is if the OVC-SOC merge.

[greygoose]

Figured it'd be more reason for Burg/Waverly to push SOC expansion to add bigger schools (Portsmouth and Ironton for starters). Maybe they both fine though with playing 4-5 D6 schools/year with the expanded playoffs, but don't see that schedule preparing them for deep playoff runs in D4/D5*

Ironton as an independent would make things easier but I don’t believe any team outside of Wheelersburg would vote them in. Portsmouth now with Ironton is out of OVC really have zero reason to leave unless it’s just a travel thing. Seems like Wheelersburgs schedule has suited them just fine believe they were in SOC when they won state. Waverly is in one of the toughest regions in DIV playing D3 schools isn’t going to help the coaching isn’t there for that.

Waverly has moved to the much more geographic region 15 now and it is lesser than the previous region they were in 16.
Plus all of the heavy hitters in R15 have moved up to DIII. Hartley, Stuebenville, Sheridan all up a division

For how long you can’t base something off of a year or 2 move

[Jeaux Burreaux]

Ironton as an independent would make things easier but I don’t believe any team outside of Wheelersburg would vote them in. Portsmouth now with Ironton is out of OVC really have zero reason to leave unless it’s just a travel thing. Seems like Wheelersburgs schedule has suited them just fine believe they were in SOC when they won state. Waverly is in one of the toughest regions in DIV playing D3 schools isn’t going to help the coaching isn’t there for that.

Waverly has moved to the much more geographic region 15 now and it is lesser than the previous region they were in 16.
Plus all of the heavy hitters in R15 have moved up to DIII. Hartley, Stuebenville, Sheridan all up a division

For how long you can’t base something off of a year or 2 move

You’re correct however I don’t see the SOC changing in the short to near future

[Baseball_Dad]

A friend of mine said Coach Crabtree told them Valley had 60 kids sign up for football. I knew the weight room and powerlifting numbers were good but was surprised to hear that number. I don’t know exactly how good they will be but there is good mojo around that program right now. I hope it turns into wins because I have seen a lot of hard work by that staff.

[wobycat]

A friend of mine said Coach Crabtree told them Valley had 60 kids sign up for football. I knew the weight room and powerlifting numbers were good but was surprised to hear that number. I don’t know exactly how good they will be but there is good mojo around that program right now. I hope it turns into wins because I have seen a lot of hard work by that staff.

Wow. Great numbers

[RBH23]

A friend of mine said Coach Crabtree told them Valley had 60 kids sign up for football. I knew the weight room and powerlifting numbers were good but was surprised to hear that number. I don’t know exactly how good they will be but there is good mojo around that program right now. I hope it turns into wins because I have seen a lot of hard work by that staff.

That’s awesome!! If those numbers are legit, the wins will come.