D5 R19

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RBH23 wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:14 am
fielddaddy wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:18 am
yabbadabbadoo wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:45 am If they don't win it this year I believe Pendleton is gone. He's already tried to leave by applying for the Moeller job last year. It looks like he wants to go to a big D1 school and can't say I blame him for that. My guess is he wants to coach at the college level someday and can't blame him for that as well.
Even if Pendleton leaves his brother is waiting in the waiting mugs to take over and Ironton is putting together a coaching staff that is built for them to win.
Pendleton is a good Defensive coach offensive he his not there yet but bringing in a coach for the QBs and offense is a big step in the right direction
I think the hire of Kaskey was a smart move on IHS’ part. Didn’t always agree with how he called games at Burg, but overall, he did a good job and could help IHS in this department. But he did have a tendency to fall in love with the pass at Burg; although that remains a problem at Burg so maybe wasn’t his decision.
Im hoping ironton recommits to establishing the run game as a bread & butter u can lean on in tough games but that is gonna require a HUGE improvement in discipline & technique on the O line.

Need an identity. Instead of looking like ya calling plays on Madden. Gotta have a base/foundation.


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Re: D5 R19

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TigerBlood00 wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:39 pm
RBH23 wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:14 am
fielddaddy wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:18 am

Even if Pendleton leaves his brother is waiting in the waiting mugs to take over and Ironton is putting together a coaching staff that is built for them to win.
Pendleton is a good Defensive coach offensive he his not there yet but bringing in a coach for the QBs and offense is a big step in the right direction
I think the hire of Kaskey was a smart move on IHS’ part. Didn’t always agree with how he called games at Burg, but overall, he did a good job and could help IHS in this department. But he did have a tendency to fall in love with the pass at Burg; although that remains a problem at Burg so maybe wasn’t his decision.
Who do you like better as an offensive coach/play caller? Kaskey or Salyers ( thats the burg oc yes?)
Kaskey was a major player in Burg’s state run, so that alone gives him the nod.

There were games he called that left me scratching my head at times, but I have not been happy with what I saw the past two years. So considering all of this, I have to give Kaskey the nod.

Would not be surprised if he does well at IHS.


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Re: D5 R19

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RBH23 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:14 am
TigerBlood00 wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:39 pm
RBH23 wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:14 am

I think the hire of Kaskey was a smart move on IHS’ part. Didn’t always agree with how he called games at Burg, but overall, he did a good job and could help IHS in this department. But he did have a tendency to fall in love with the pass at Burg; although that remains a problem at Burg so maybe wasn’t his decision.
Who do you like better as an offensive coach/play caller? Kaskey or Salyers ( thats the burg oc yes?)
Kaskey was a major player in Burg’s state run, so that alone gives him the nod.

There were games he called that left me scratching my head at times, but I have not been happy with what I saw the past two years. So considering all of this, I have to give Kaskey the nod.

Would not be surprised if he does well at IHS.
See, I heard different about Kaskey during the state title run. I heard that someone that use to play football for burg confronted him and told him he needed to change the play calling in the second half against Columbus Academy. He was trying to spread them out and Academy was too quick for that. This person told him to get his head out of his ass and start running the ball. Lo and behold Burg came out running the ball and destroyed them in the second half.

Kaskey was always too predictable in his play calling. He would run a play and it gain 6-7 yards and he would try to run it again the very next play and it would lose 3 yards. My feeling is the emotions will get to him in week 1 and he will want to destroy Burg so he can pound his chest and say,"look at me you all! Burg should have never let me go!!"


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Re: D5 R19

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yabbadabbadoo wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:23 am
RBH23 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:14 am
TigerBlood00 wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:39 pm

Who do you like better as an offensive coach/play caller? Kaskey or Salyers ( thats the burg oc yes?)
Kaskey was a major player in Burg’s state run, so that alone gives him the nod.

There were games he called that left me scratching my head at times, but I have not been happy with what I saw the past two years. So considering all of this, I have to give Kaskey the nod.

Would not be surprised if he does well at IHS.
See, I heard different about Kaskey during the state title run. I heard that someone that use to play football for burg confronted him and told him he needed to change the play calling in the second half against Columbus Academy. He was trying to spread them out and Academy was too quick for that. This person told him to get his head out of his ass and start running the ball. Lo and behold Burg came out running the ball and destroyed them in the second half.

Kaskey was always too predictable in his play calling. He would run a play and it gain 6-7 yards and he would try to run it again the very next play and it would lose 3 yards. My feeling is the emotions will get to him in week 1 and he will want to destroy Burg so he can pound his chest and say,"look at me you all! Burg should have never let me go!!"
That’s interesting. I have no inside info on the Academy game. Assumed he was the one that made that decision.

Other than the second half of that game, I was mostly disappointed in Burg’s play calling during the 2017 playoffs; 2018 against JM was really bad. Also, a few really bad regular season games in the following years…

So when Kaskey left, I initially thought Burg O would be better off. But it’s been a lot of the same with many head scratchers the past few years. Too many pass plays in the red zone ending up as interceptions, and the end around play that never works against the better teams. Ugh!!


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RBH23 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:17 am
yabbadabbadoo wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:23 am
RBH23 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:14 am

Kaskey was a major player in Burg’s state run, so that alone gives him the nod.

There were games he called that left me scratching my head at times, but I have not been happy with what I saw the past two years. So considering all of this, I have to give Kaskey the nod.

Would not be surprised if he does well at IHS.
See, I heard different about Kaskey during the state title run. I heard that someone that use to play football for burg confronted him and told him he needed to change the play calling in the second half against Columbus Academy. He was trying to spread them out and Academy was too quick for that. This person told him to get his head out of his ass and start running the ball. Lo and behold Burg came out running the ball and destroyed them in the second half.

Kaskey was always too predictable in his play calling. He would run a play and it gain 6-7 yards and he would try to run it again the very next play and it would lose 3 yards. My feeling is the emotions will get to him in week 1 and he will want to destroy Burg so he can pound his chest and say,"look at me you all! Burg should have never let me go!!"
That’s interesting. I have no inside info on the Academy game. Assumed he was the one that made that decision.

Other than the second half of that game, I was mostly disappointed in Burg’s play calling during the 2017 playoffs; 2018 against JM was really bad. Also, a few really bad regular season games in the following years…

So when Kaskey left, I initially thought Burg O would be better off. But it’s been a lot of the same with many head scratchers the past few years. Too many pass plays in the red zone ending up as interceptions, and the end around play that never works against the better teams. Ugh!!
Ya know besides Holden, I have never ever really seen a burg kid who impressed me with their speed and athleticism. I think ashland kids are more talented. I think the kids up the road in wv at Hurricane and Huntington and Midland are more talented. And I think Ironton is just bottom line more talented. And I think week 1 at the ed is gonna be UGLY for the home team.


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TigerBlood00 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:10 am
RBH23 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:17 am
yabbadabbadoo wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:23 am

See, I heard different about Kaskey during the state title run. I heard that someone that use to play football for burg confronted him and told him he needed to change the play calling in the second half against Columbus Academy. He was trying to spread them out and Academy was too quick for that. This person told him to get his head out of his ass and start running the ball. Lo and behold Burg came out running the ball and destroyed them in the second half.

Kaskey was always too predictable in his play calling. He would run a play and it gain 6-7 yards and he would try to run it again the very next play and it would lose 3 yards. My feeling is the emotions will get to him in week 1 and he will want to destroy Burg so he can pound his chest and say,"look at me you all! Burg should have never let me go!!"
That’s interesting. I have no inside info on the Academy game. Assumed he was the one that made that decision.

Other than the second half of that game, I was mostly disappointed in Burg’s play calling during the 2017 playoffs; 2018 against JM was really bad. Also, a few really bad regular season games in the following years…

So when Kaskey left, I initially thought Burg O would be better off. But it’s been a lot of the same with many head scratchers the past few years. Too many pass plays in the red zone ending up as interceptions, and the end around play that never works against the better teams. Ugh!!
Ya know besides Holden, I have never ever really seen a burg kid who impressed me with their speed and athleticism. I think ashland kids are more talented. I think the kids up the road in wv at Hurricane and Huntington and Midland are more talented. And I think Ironton is just bottom line more talented. And I think week 1 at the ed is gonna be UGLY for the home team.
And yet Burg is the #4 winningest school in Ohio football, and the last SEO school to win state. Why? Not talent but culture. Glad you are finally figuring this out.


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Re: D5 R19

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RBH23 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:36 pm
TigerBlood00 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:10 am
RBH23 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:17 am

That’s interesting. I have no inside info on the Academy game. Assumed he was the one that made that decision.

Other than the second half of that game, I was mostly disappointed in Burg’s play calling during the 2017 playoffs; 2018 against JM was really bad. Also, a few really bad regular season games in the following years…

So when Kaskey left, I initially thought Burg O would be better off. But it’s been a lot of the same with many head scratchers the past few years. Too many pass plays in the red zone ending up as interceptions, and the end around play that never works against the better teams. Ugh!!
Ya know besides Holden, I have never ever really seen a burg kid who impressed me with their speed and athleticism. I think ashland kids are more talented. I think the kids up the road in wv at Hurricane and Huntington and Midland are more talented. And I think Ironton is just bottom line more talented. And I think week 1 at the ed is gonna be UGLY for the home team.
And yet Burg is the #4 winningest school in Ohio football, and the last SEO school to win state. Why? Not talent but culture. Glad you are finally figuring this out.

Burg is the program that has only won their region 5 times in 30 years


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TigerBlood00 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:24 pm
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:36 pm
TigerBlood00 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:10 am

Ya know besides Holden, I have never ever really seen a burg kid who impressed me with their speed and athleticism. I think ashland kids are more talented. I think the kids up the road in wv at Hurricane and Huntington and Midland are more talented. And I think Ironton is just bottom line more talented. And I think week 1 at the ed is gonna be UGLY for the home team.
And yet Burg is the #4 winningest school in Ohio football, and the last SEO school to win state. Why? Not talent but culture. Glad you are finally figuring this out.

Burg is the program that has only won their region 5 times in 30 years
you forgot “a state title.”

Although you king of make a good point. Burg should be embarrassed only having one football state title since 1989. How can any program consider themselves elite given that? Maybe an Ironton fan can answer that question :)


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RBH23 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:36 pm
TigerBlood00 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:10 am
RBH23 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:17 am

That’s interesting. I have no inside info on the Academy game. Assumed he was the one that made that decision.

Other than the second half of that game, I was mostly disappointed in Burg’s play calling during the 2017 playoffs; 2018 against JM was really bad. Also, a few really bad regular season games in the following years…

So when Kaskey left, I initially thought Burg O would be better off. But it’s been a lot of the same with many head scratchers the past few years. Too many pass plays in the red zone ending up as interceptions, and the end around play that never works against the better teams. Ugh!!
Ya know besides Holden, I have never ever really seen a burg kid who impressed me with their speed and athleticism. I think ashland kids are more talented. I think the kids up the road in wv at Hurricane and Huntington and Midland are more talented. And I think Ironton is just bottom line more talented. And I think week 1 at the ed is gonna be UGLY for the home team.
And yet Burg is the #4 winningest school in Ohio football, and the last SEO school to win state. Why? Not talent but culture. Glad you are finally figuring this out.
RBH23, You seem like a reasonable guy and I know arguing with Tigerblood is tasking but as far as #4 record all time is a little misleading. Bob Lutz would have not lost more than a few games with Burg’s schedule in the 70’s and 80’s and 90’s


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TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:46 pm
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:36 pm
TigerBlood00 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:10 am

Ya know besides Holden, I have never ever really seen a burg kid who impressed me with their speed and athleticism. I think ashland kids are more talented. I think the kids up the road in wv at Hurricane and Huntington and Midland are more talented. And I think Ironton is just bottom line more talented. And I think week 1 at the ed is gonna be UGLY for the home team.
And yet Burg is the #4 winningest school in Ohio football, and the last SEO school to win state. Why? Not talent but culture. Glad you are finally figuring this out.
RBH23, You seem like a reasonable guy and I know arguing with Tigerblood is tasking but as far as #4 record all time is a little misleading. Bob Lutz would have not lost more than a few games with Burg’s schedule in the 70’s and 80’s and 90’s
And woodward would have at least one state championship with Pendleton’s teams


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fbnut wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:59 pm
TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:46 pm
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:36 pm

And yet Burg is the #4 winningest school in Ohio football, and the last SEO school to win state. Why? Not talent but culture. Glad you are finally figuring this out.
RBH23, You seem like a reasonable guy and I know arguing with Tigerblood is tasking but as far as #4 record all time is a little misleading. Bob Lutz would have not lost more than a few games with Burg’s schedule in the 70’s and 80’s and 90’s
And woodward would have at least one state championship with Pendleton’s teams
But woodard cant even get out of his region with "superior coaching and culture" and a larger enrollment.

Suuuure he could 😭😭


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Re: D5 R19

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TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:46 pm
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:36 pm
TigerBlood00 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:10 am

Ya know besides Holden, I have never ever really seen a burg kid who impressed me with their speed and athleticism. I think ashland kids are more talented. I think the kids up the road in wv at Hurricane and Huntington and Midland are more talented. And I think Ironton is just bottom line more talented. And I think week 1 at the ed is gonna be UGLY for the home team.
And yet Burg is the #4 winningest school in Ohio football, and the last SEO school to win state. Why? Not talent but culture. Glad you are finally figuring this out.
RBH23, You seem like a reasonable guy and I know arguing with Tigerblood is tasking but as far as #4 record all time is a little misleading. Bob Lutz would have not lost more than a few games with Burg’s schedule in the 70’s and 80’s and 90’s
No program in SEO who has only been able to manage making it beyond their region 5 times in the last 30 years should have ANYTHING to say about Irontons program. Lmao

5 times in 3 decades? 😭

Bum a** program. Burg is sooo overrated. 🗑


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Re: D5 R19

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TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:46 pm
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:36 pm
TigerBlood00 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:10 am

Ya know besides Holden, I have never ever really seen a burg kid who impressed me with their speed and athleticism. I think ashland kids are more talented. I think the kids up the road in wv at Hurricane and Huntington and Midland are more talented. And I think Ironton is just bottom line more talented. And I think week 1 at the ed is gonna be UGLY for the home team.
And yet Burg is the #4 winningest school in Ohio football, and the last SEO school to win state. Why? Not talent but culture. Glad you are finally figuring this out.
RBH23, You seem like a reasonable guy and I know arguing with Tigerblood is tasking but as far as #4 record all time is a little misleading. Bob Lutz would have not lost more than a few games with Burg’s schedule in the 70’s and 80’s and 90’s
Bob Lutz coaching Ironton with Burg’s schedule? Completely agree. Lutz was a great coach, and Ironton in those days had some amazing teams. Ironton was a different football program and a different school back then.

That said, if Lutz was coaching this 2024 Ironton team, I have zero doubt he would make the state title game, and would even wager that he would win state.


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RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:26 pm
TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:46 pm
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:36 pm

And yet Burg is the #4 winningest school in Ohio football, and the last SEO school to win state. Why? Not talent but culture. Glad you are finally figuring this out.
RBH23, You seem like a reasonable guy and I know arguing with Tigerblood is tasking but as far as #4 record all time is a little misleading. Bob Lutz would have not lost more than a few games with Burg’s schedule in the 70’s and 80’s and 90’s
Bob Lutz coaching Ironton with Burg’s schedule? Completely agree. Lutz was a great coach, and Ironton in those days had some amazing teams. Ironton was a different football program and a different school back then.

That said, if Lutz was coaching this 2024 Ironton team, I have zero doubt he would make the state title game, and would even wager that he would win state.
Ironton and Portsmouth were both big schools back in the 70’s and into the 80’s


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Re: D5 R19

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fbnut wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:57 pm
RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:26 pm
TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:46 pm

RBH23, You seem like a reasonable guy and I know arguing with Tigerblood is tasking but as far as #4 record all time is a little misleading. Bob Lutz would have not lost more than a few games with Burg’s schedule in the 70’s and 80’s and 90’s
Bob Lutz coaching Ironton with Burg’s schedule? Completely agree. Lutz was a great coach, and Ironton in those days had some amazing teams. Ironton was a different football program and a different school back then.

That said, if Lutz was coaching this 2024 Ironton team, I have zero doubt he would make the state title game, and would even wager that he would win state.
Ironton and Portsmouth were both big schools back in the 70’s and into the 80’s
And burg was soft.
Still soft.

S - O - F - T. !!!

Cant wait to see all that superior coaching & culture get beat in their own stadium week one right off rip. 5 times in 3 decades. 😭🗑


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