Week 1 Ironton @ Wheelersburg 2024

[Jawnjkang98]

Ironton kids seem to buy into football as a full time sport. I think maybe alotta burg players just play cause football is fun. Its a part time commitment. The buy in for the two cultures are different right now.

[RBH23]

I would agree with you if we weren’t advancing in the playoffs but that ain’t the case. I mean you have to really think back to our rosters. There’s not one d1 or d2 kid on our team in the last three years since Covid. I think we’ve done a good job.

Appreciate your positive take and respect your opinion. But the past few years, Burg has been performing below their long term trend. And the glaring problem is the offense.

Take a step back and look over the results since Woodward has been coach. The conclusion would be he’s done a great job but has slipped since 2018. However look one level below that. Burg’s offensive system has not done well against good teams and has been bailed out by the defense over and over again.

From 2013 to now, Burg’s passing game struggles badly against athletic, speedy defensives whereas Burg’s running game has done much better. But Burg’s stats overall look deceptively good because they beat the hell out of the bad teams.

The reality is that we are running the wrong offense given our personnel. Burg’s not going to produce Holden’s and Matthew’s each year, so we shouldn’t run an offense like we are.

Kirtland coach understands this, hence why he runs the offense that he does. Brian White, when he was coaching HD, understood this and ran an offense that Burg should be emulating.

Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. That summarizes Burg’s approach to offense.

I agree with the offense they moved the ball on the ground to score but later go completely away from it. I would also say the offensive line is not built for the pass slow feet and to overweight.

You are correct about the line not being built for the pass.

Burg is forcing an offense on players not equipped to execute it at a high level.

[fielddaddy]

Yiu have to mix it up you can't run non stop against a team like Ironton.
They are not Minford or Valley you have to try at least to keep them off balance.
It's just one game and Burg will make adjustments and improve as the year goes on.
Ironton will do the same overall I believe the game came out as I thought it would.
The Burg QB is pretty good and quick and elusive.
The O-line is big but slow and the RB's have potential to help control the clock Burg can go 7-3 but 6-4 may be a big possibility with their schedule.

[RBH23]

Yiu have to mix it up you can't run non stop against a team like Ironton.
They are not Minford or Valley you have to try at least to keep them off balance.
It's just one game and Burg will make adjustments and improve as the year goes on.
Ironton will do the same overall I believe the game came out as I thought it would.
The Burg QB is pretty good and quick and elusive.
The O-line is big but slow and the RB's have potential to help control the clock Burg can go 7-3 but 6-4 may be a big possibility with their schedule.

Of course not. I’m not saying Burg should go full house backfield.

But Burg has no offensive identity. The coaches desperately want to be a pass happy team when they have the personnel to be a run heavy team.

And your comment on “control the clock” is very important. Not doing that in the last 5 minutes of the first half was a disastrous decision by the coaches. Would love to know what possessed them to come out throwing on those first two plays after getting the ball back in a 7-7 game.

[BigSpoon]

Id say Burgs qb is ready to transfer to Ironton. Without him they would have got beat 50-00

[yabbadabbadoo]

Burg just hasn't had the explosiveness in the past few years. Their defense has been their strength. Ironton will make a lot of teams look slow this year

Ironton didn't either until they brought it in. Didn't the QB come from Ashland? Terry came from Portsmouth West and I know he did because had a juvenile court person in scioto county tell me he got pulled over as a 16 year when he lived there and Number 0 came from Huntington.

Burg needs to figure out a way to get these skilled kids to come to Burg. Curious as to how Ironton is doing it because it sure isn't those scholarships. Are any of those kids from the last few years, Perkins, Keyes and Felder and any others still even in school???

[yabbadabbadoo]

Yiu have to mix it up you can't run non stop against a team like Ironton.
They are not Minford or Valley you have to try at least to keep them off balance.
It's just one game and Burg will make adjustments and improve as the year goes on.
Ironton will do the same overall I believe the game came out as I thought it would.
The Burg QB is pretty good and quick and elusive.
The O-line is big but slow and the RB's have potential to help control the clock Burg can go 7-3 but 6-4 may be a big possibility with their schedule.

Of course not. I’m not saying Burg should go full house backfield.

But Burg has no offensive identity. The coaches desperately want to be a pass happy team when they have the personnel to be a run heavy team.

And your comment on “control the clock” is very important. Not doing that in the last 5 minutes of the first half was a disastrous decision by the coaches. Would love to know what possessed them to come out throwing on those first two plays after getting the ball back in a 7-7 game.

Even though they are wanting to be pass happy they only tried to throw the ball one time to Evans (No. 2) and McGraw (No. 6). Not one quick pass right of the line.

The INT QB1 threw, the sad part is Evans was 5-8 yards past Terry and he just way under threw it. He throws that deep that is probably a TD.

[Carmen Ohio]

Yiu have to mix it up you can't run non stop against a team like Ironton.
They are not Minford or Valley you have to try at least to keep them off balance.
It's just one game and Burg will make adjustments and improve as the year goes on.
Ironton will do the same overall I believe the game came out as I thought it would.
The Burg QB is pretty good and quick and elusive.
The O-line is big but slow and the RB's have potential to help control the clock Burg can go 7-3 but 6-4 may be a big possibility with their schedule.

Of course not. I’m not saying Burg should go full house backfield.

But Burg has no offensive identity. The coaches desperately want to be a pass happy team when they have the personnel to be a run heavy team.

And your comment on “control the clock” is very important. Not doing that in the last 5 minutes of the first half was a disastrous decision by the coaches. Would love to know what possessed them to come out throwing on those first two plays after getting the ball back in a 7-7 game.

Even though they are wanting to be pass happy they only tried to throw the ball one time to Evans (No. 2) and McGraw (No. 6). Not one quick pass right of the line.

The INT QB1 threw, the sad part is Evans was 5-8 yards past Terry and he just way under threw it. He throws that deep that is probably a TD.

2/3 of Wheelersburg’s plays were runs. Why do Burg fans keep acting like they abandoned the run? Burg had about 20 yards of offense the second half. Maybe Ironton’s defense was just better than the Birg’s offense.

[Prime Time]

LOL Im sure the Burg Coachs just love you guys, I say you guys become the Coachs and see what your record would be. I would guess not any better or probably worst, if you could get the players out to play under you guys. LOL Its really hilarious reading the excuses you guys are pushing. over and over and over, year after year after year. The overall talent level is not there, period

[Carmen Ohio]

Of course not. I’m not saying Burg should go full house backfield.

But Burg has no offensive identity. The coaches desperately want to be a pass happy team when they have the personnel to be a run heavy team.

And your comment on “control the clock” is very important. Not doing that in the last 5 minutes of the first half was a disastrous decision by the coaches. Would love to know what possessed them to come out throwing on those first two plays after getting the ball back in a 7-7 game.

Even though they are wanting to be pass happy they only tried to throw the ball one time to Evans (No. 2) and McGraw (No. 6). Not one quick pass right of the line.

The INT QB1 threw, the sad part is Evans was 5-8 yards past Terry and he just way under threw it. He throws that deep that is probably a TD.

2/3 of Wheelersburg’s plays were runs. Why do Burg fans keep acting like they abandoned the run? Burg had about 20 yards of offense the second half. Maybe Ironton’s defense was just better than the Birg’s offense.

Everyone keeps saying if Ironton doesn’t have Terry blah, blah, blah….if Burg doesn’t have the QB #4 they don’t even come close to scoring in this game.

[Oldtimer55]

Yiu have to mix it up you can't run non stop against a team like Ironton.
They are not Minford or Valley you have to try at least to keep them off balance.
It's just one game and Burg will make adjustments and improve as the year goes on.
Ironton will do the same overall I believe the game came out as I thought it would.
The Burg QB is pretty good and quick and elusive.
The O-line is big but slow and the RB's have potential to help control the clock Burg can go 7-3 but 6-4 may be a big possibility with their schedule.

Of course not. I’m not saying Burg should go full house backfield.

But Burg has no offensive identity. The coaches desperately want to be a pass happy team when they have the personnel to be a run heavy team.

And your comment on “control the clock” is very important. Not doing that in the last 5 minutes of the first half was a disastrous decision by the coaches. Would love to know what possessed them to come out throwing on those first two plays after getting the ball back in a 7-7 game.

Even though they are wanting to be pass happy they only tried to throw the ball one time to Evans (No. 2) and McGraw (No. 6). Not one quick pass right of the line.

The INT QB1 threw, the sad part is Evans was 5-8 yards past Terry and he just way under threw it. He throws that deep that is probably a TD.

I said the same during the game about not throwing to Evans???? And please stop rolling the QB out to his left to throw the ball across his body to the right…. Bad things happen as we have seen the last few years!

[Jawnjkang98]

Burg just hasn't had the explosiveness in the past few years. Their defense has been their strength. Ironton will make a lot of teams look slow this year

Ironton didn't either until they brought it in. Didn't the QB come from Ashland? Terry came from Portsmouth West and I know he did because had a juvenile court person in scioto county tell me he got pulled over as a 16 year when he lived there and Number 0 came from Huntington.

Burg needs to figure out a way to get these skilled kids to come to Burg. Curious as to how Ironton is doing it because it sure isn't those scholarships. Are any of those kids from the last few years, Perkins, Keyes and Felder and any others still even in school???

1 and 10 vs Ironton Jackson & Prep now over the last 3 seasons. Bums.

[Jawnjkang98]

Even though they are wanting to be pass happy they only tried to throw the ball one time to Evans (No. 2) and McGraw (No. 6). Not one quick pass right of the line.

The INT QB1 threw, the sad part is Evans was 5-8 yards past Terry and he just way under threw it. He throws that deep that is probably a TD.

2/3 of Wheelersburg’s plays were runs. Why do Burg fans keep acting like they abandoned the run? Burg had about 20 yards of offense the second half. Maybe Ironton’s defense was just better than the Birg’s offense.

Everyone keeps saying if Ironton doesn’t have Terry blah, blah, blah….if Burg doesn’t have the QB #4 they don’t even come close to scoring in this game.

Didnt take long for the burg cry babying & transfer bs to start.

[Jawnjkang98]

Of course not. I’m not saying Burg should go full house backfield.

But Burg has no offensive identity. The coaches desperately want to be a pass happy team when they have the personnel to be a run heavy team.

And your comment on “control the clock” is very important. Not doing that in the last 5 minutes of the first half was a disastrous decision by the coaches. Would love to know what possessed them to come out throwing on those first two plays after getting the ball back in a 7-7 game.

Even though they are wanting to be pass happy they only tried to throw the ball one time to Evans (No. 2) and McGraw (No. 6). Not one quick pass right of the line.

The INT QB1 threw, the sad part is Evans was 5-8 yards past Terry and he just way under threw it. He throws that deep that is probably a TD.

2/3 of Wheelersburg’s plays were runs. Why do Burg fans keep acting like they abandoned the run? Burg had about 20 yards of offense the second half. Maybe Ironton’s defense was just better than the Birg’s offense.

Burg didnt abandon the run. Burg is fat and slow up front and got whipped up front on BOTH sides.

[wobycat]

LOL Im sure the Burg Coachs just love you guys, I say you guys become the Coachs and see what your record would be. I would guess not any better or probably worst, if you could get the players out to play under you guys. LOL Its really hilarious reading the excuses you guys are pushing. over and over and over, year after year after year. The overall talent level is not there, period

You are correct. There have been more talented burg teams in the past. But yet the last three seasons they have taken what they’ve had and turned into two regional runner ups and 2 SOC crowns. As a fan, I’ll take it.

You give burg Terry last night, they win. He’s a difference maker. He’s going to Missouri for crying out loud.

And if burg should meet Ironton in playoffs they will have to hope to do a better job containing him to have a shot.

Also the reason burg was trying to pass because Ironton began to load the box. I don’t disagree with why, I just wouldn’t have. I would have went heavy and went with power the entire game and try to find a running lanes.

[*D1*]

LOL Im sure the Burg Coachs just love you guys, I say you guys become the Coachs and see what your record would be. I would guess not any better or probably worst, if you could get the players out to play under you guys. LOL Its really hilarious reading the excuses you guys are pushing. over and over and over, year after year after year. The overall talent level is not there, period

You are correct. There have been more talented burg teams in the past. But yet the last three seasons they have taken what they’ve had and turned into two regional runner ups and 2 SOC crowns. As a fan, I’ll take it.

You give burg Terry last night, they win. He’s a difference maker. He’s going to Missouri for crying out loud.

And if burg should meet Ironton in playoffs they will have to hope to do a better job containing him to have a shot.

Also the reason burg was trying to pass because Ironton began to load the box. I don’t disagree with why, I just wouldn’t have. I would have went heavy and went with power the entire game and try to find a running lanes.

I know a guy with a genius mind for offense. If Burg’s interested…

[wobycat]

LOL Im sure the Burg Coachs just love you guys, I say you guys become the Coachs and see what your record would be. I would guess not any better or probably worst, if you could get the players out to play under you guys. LOL Its really hilarious reading the excuses you guys are pushing. over and over and over, year after year after year. The overall talent level is not there, period

You are correct. There have been more talented burg teams in the past. But yet the last three seasons they have taken what they’ve had and turned into two regional runner ups and 2 SOC crowns. As a fan, I’ll take it.

You give burg Terry last night, they win. He’s a difference maker. He’s going to Missouri for crying out loud.

And if burg should meet Ironton in playoffs they will have to hope to do a better job containing him to have a shot.

Also the reason burg was trying to pass because Ironton began to load the box. I don’t disagree with why, I just wouldn’t have. I would have went heavy and went with power the entire game and try to find a running lanes.

I know a guy with a genius mind for offense. If Burg’s interested…

My way may have not worked at all. It’s easy to be critical when you're not responsible. Lol

[RBH23]

LOL Im sure the Burg Coachs just love you guys, I say you guys become the Coachs and see what your record would be. I would guess not any better or probably worst, if you could get the players out to play under you guys. LOL Its really hilarious reading the excuses you guys are pushing. over and over and over, year after year after year. The overall talent level is not there, period

If Burg wants to match my current pay, I would be more than happy to coach.

That said, this team is headed for 6-4/7-3 season. Anyone who can identify a football could coach this Burg team to a 6-4/7-3 season. Where the coach for Burg earns his pay is winning a game where they are even odds or even underdogs; or in the game last night, at least keeping it close.

As I’ve stated, I picked Ironton to win by 2-3 scores. Even came within 2 of picking Ironton’s score total. Where I missed was on the Burg O. Given the returning starters, expected to see a slight improvement over last year. Saw none.

Worse, I saw the same coaching mistakes: rolling the QB to the left on pass plays, poor clock management (last 5 minutes of the second quarter), an offensive game plan not suited for the offensive players, not attempting to get the playmakers the ball, etc.

Extremely proud of the D performance. Too bad we forgot to plan for when we had the ball!

[RBH23]

LOL Im sure the Burg Coachs just love you guys, I say you guys become the Coachs and see what your record would be. I would guess not any better or probably worst, if you could get the players out to play under you guys. LOL Its really hilarious reading the excuses you guys are pushing. over and over and over, year after year after year. The overall talent level is not there, period

You are correct. There have been more talented burg teams in the past. But yet the last three seasons they have taken what they’ve had and turned into two regional runner ups and 2 SOC crowns. As a fan, I’ll take it.

You give burg Terry last night, they win. He’s a difference maker. He’s going to Missouri for crying out loud.

And if burg should meet Ironton in playoffs they will have to hope to do a better job containing him to have a shot.

Also the reason burg was trying to pass because Ironton began to load the box. I don’t disagree with why, I just wouldn’t have. I would have went heavy and went with power the entire game and try to find a running lanes.

Exactly!! Would have pulled out the 2022 game plan that was brilliant. Actually gave Burg a fighting chance in a game where they were outmanned.

[VetteMan]

I may be the only one on here that thinks this way, but I think that the QB for Ironton is going to also be a weapon for the Tigers throughout this season, not only throwing the ball, but his ability to take off and run the ball.