Burg at McNichols

[Jawnjkang98]

Varsity-Ironton 37 Burg 7
JV-Ironton 21 Burg 20
8th grade-Ironton 50 Burg 14
7th grade-Ironton 38 Burg 00

Its not the transfers. Ironton IS the better program. All levels.

[fbnut]

Question! Whos running Wheelersburg football and making the decisions. I beleive the current Coachs are doing great,with what they have. You or your friends need to chill out and consider this is high school football and life is more than getting on here and basicly calling out the whole Burg football program.

so to be clear on your opinion its all the kids? they just arent good enough?

[Top Gun]

You just explained everything I have been thinking all along here. Plus I have been taught a class in genetics , thank you for spelling out how deep all this runs in a football teams makeup. So now what are the solutions that your group will consider needs to happen with all these genetically gifted athletes going forward. I’m confident now that things will work out , especially with eye on the Coaching decisions. I appreciate your effort and break down of situation. Good Luck to the Pirates! For your all sakes I hope the Pirates go 9-1 this year.

“I have been taught a class in genetics.” Ugh!!

What should Burg do? It’s actually quite simple: benchmark schools that have won consistently in Ohio despite not having the best athletes. Two prime examples: Kirtland and Hilliard Davidson under Brian White.

Kirtland dominates despite rarely producing a D1 athlete. They put a running clock on Ironton in the state title even though Ironton had a roster full of D1 players and Kirtland had zero.

Brian White won two state titles and 5 regional titles at HD despite being outmanned by the big catholic schools and the other D1 powerhouse public schools. Watching his teams play was like watching Ed Miller teams, which makes sense given White played for Ed. Definitely bring him to town just to consult on the best way forward for Burg football.

This is not rocket science, it’s high school football. Burg has enough talent as is evident in all sports they compete. But the current scheme does not fit with their talent and needs adjusted.

If it is as simple as just do what Kirtland does because they do what Ed Miller use to do..... then why did Ed only win 1 state championship at Burg. According to you if they run power football and have a playbook that could fit on 1 page, they will win the state all the time. That is what Ed did and won one time (same as this group of coaches who implemented a different style)

It is small school football you can not have a certain offense or defense set in stone and say we do this and this only. You have to adjust with the style of football in the current era and also your players. Burg made a change long ago because of the style of athletes they had coming. Now, I agree with you in the fact that style does not match this team.

The power run game the Burg ran in the 80s and 90s fit most of their teams. But did it always fit? Did they have success, but maybe could of done better? Could you imagine Jonathan Eaton running the spread offense with a D1 tackle protecting him? He would of been unreal.

Offenses need to be balanced these days. If you can only run the ball then you will eventually run into a defense that can and will stop you. That happened to a bunch of very good Burg teams in the 90s. In 2017 Burg was balanced, if they could of only threw and had no run game (which was the case in some of the prior years to 2017) they would of not beat Columbus Academy because of the athletes they had. That team did not have one dominant style but was able to use multiple personnels and figure out a way to beat each team.

So in the end I do not disagree with you... I just do not like the argument that says well Ed did it and this how we use to do it. Because that way only won 1 State championship as well. I can think of at least 4 teams in the 80s and 90s where I feel like they were legitimately the best team in the state but didnt get it done.

That year they also benefited from playing 3 straight teams from Regional Finals and on that could only run the football and run defense was the strength of that defense. Not that the secondary was bad by any means, but imagine if Eastwood, Johnstown, or Madison could be balanced and threw the ball enough to keep you honest. It would of been a much tougher defensive assignment.

[FIDO]

No one in the surrounding counties has the cajones to schedule Ironton, Jackson, McNic, and HP. When the Pirates start losing in the SOC consistently and not making the playoffs, then I might consider the demise of the burg is warranted. Something is off because the offense hasn't been as dominate as in years paste. Jmo

[dirt_cinders]

No one in the surrounding counties has the cajones to schedule Ironton, Jackson, McNic, and HP. When the Pirates start losing in the SOC consistently and not making the playoffs, then I might consider the demise of the burg is warranted. Something is off because the offense hasn't been as dominate as in years paste. Jmo

That is true but it might not make sense for many teams in the area to do that. You have to be honest with yourself and schedule based on your ability. Burg may want to re-think the scheduling also.
Ironton is now the big dog and burg a distant second and most others fall in line behind that.
I think that truth is hard for the Burg faithful.

[Jawnjkang98]

No one in the surrounding counties has the cajones to schedule Ironton, Jackson, McNic, and HP. When the Pirates start losing in the SOC consistently and not making the playoffs, then I might consider the demise of the burg is warranted. Something is off because the offense hasn't been as dominate as in years paste. Jmo

That is true but it might not make sense for many teams in the area to do that. You have to be honest with yourself and schedule based on your ability. Burg may want to re-think the scheduling also.
Ironton is now the big dog and burg a distant second and most others fall in line behind that.
I think that truth is hard for the Burg faithful.

Ironton and Prep are same division and region as burg. Thats not a schedule up its a cant compete with the best in your own region issue.

[Jawnjkang98]

No one in the surrounding counties has the cajones to schedule Ironton, Jackson, McNic, and HP. When the Pirates start losing in the SOC consistently and not making the playoffs, then I might consider the demise of the burg is warranted. Something is off because the offense hasn't been as dominate as in years paste. Jmo

Ashalnd scheduled Prep

[packers80]

No one in the surrounding counties has the cajones to schedule Ironton, Jackson, McNic, and HP. When the Pirates start losing in the SOC consistently and not making the playoffs, then I might consider the demise of the burg is warranted. Something is off because the offense hasn't been as dominate as in years paste. Jmo

Ashalnd scheduled Prep

Demise? 1989.

[Prime Time]

Good luck to Wheelersburg Pirates! This place will explode if there's another running clock! But I see a close within 10 points either way but edge goes to Archbishop at Home. 23 will lose his mind!

[yabbadabbadoo]

I’d put Kenyon Evans at RB and see what he can do. He is one of the better athletes on offense and he is hardly touching the ball.

[packers80]

BURG has beat mcnich twice in a row and wasnt supposed to win either one of them I believe. Mcnich is gonna be a tall task on the road this year. Good luck BURG.

[The Nature Boy]

Burg getting beat 27-3 at half. They just look lost and uninspired out there. Live stream on you tube McNicholas Football.

[wobycat]

Long season for burg. Need to try to get to conference play healthy and hopefully build.

[Oldtimer55]

34-3 final McNicholas over Burg. Very uninspiring effort by the Pirates, going to be a long season !

[hoot]

Mc Nick have recruits ?

[wobycat]

Mc Nick have recruits ?

Yes. The announcers for mcnick alluded to some new kids added to the roster. Not sure how many

[FIDO]

IMO, Burg has played 2 games uninspired, with concrete blocks on their feet at the LOS. At best, a 6 win season, then week 11. I hope I'm wrong.

[Jawnjkang98]

No one in the surrounding counties has the cajones to schedule Ironton, Jackson, McNic, and HP. When the Pirates start losing in the SOC consistently and not making the playoffs, then I might consider the demise of the burg is warranted. Something is off because the offense hasn't been as dominate as in years paste. Jmo

Ashalnd scheduled Prep

Demise? 1989.

Back to back running clocks.

Burg who?

[hoot]

Sorry. My post about recruits was for one particular whiny Burg poster. I had family play for them but I couldn’t help myself. Speeding tickets sent me there ..

[Irwin20]

McNick doesn’t recruit hard to out recruit St.X, Elder and Moeller. They have 3 kids that transferred in from other Catholic schools…twins from Purcell Marian and a Sophomore from St X. The rest of the team are from 5-6 Catholic grade schools within 1-10 miles of the school. Many from the school right across the street and others from IHM about a mile east on Beechmont Ave