Washington court house football

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A down year for the big Blue..... a lot of people who know very little to nothing about the sport want to blame the coaching staff for the trouble they are in. As someone who has attended about 98 percent of Blue Lion Football games over the last 30 or more years I can tell you the problems at Washington extend beyond the coaching staff.

1. The non conference schedule is INSANE. It is one of the Toughest non league schedules I have personally seen.

2. Declining enrollment in the district is leading to less players on the team. There are those kids who are not on the field that absolutely should be.

3. Support among parents and the community is minimal to NONE. At the game Friday, where Washington WAS competitive you would have thought the game was 50-0.

4. The kids are NOT committed here like they used to be.

BUT, with that being said, I have heard through the grapevine the Board of Education will vote to non-renew Coach Everson at the end of the season. I have talked to several coaches at several schools who say they would not be caught dead applying for this job. So my question is two fold....

1. WHAT THE HELL do we have to do to restore a once proud program....

2. WHO is the next man in charge at Washington.


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WCH probably needs to play a weaker non conference schedule


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Well if they're not bringing the coach back and some think they wouldn't apply they'll want to find a young energetic coach that might just be starting out to pump some energy into things. Getting rid of that non-conference schedule is a must as I just looked it over and dang that's brutal, might take on a couple 2-3 years worth of cupcake non-conference stuff in order to build some confidence and winning will bring out more players which will bring in more fans to the games. In terms of parent involvement I think that decline is like that in a lot of places but when you're not winning ppl don't want to volunteer their time even if it benefits their kids but as a whole I just think parent involvement is lacking unless you're at a football school. I think this year was kind of expected with everything that WCH lost though. Going to have to build up because MT seems to be getting things going over there


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A lot of the issues stem from the previous Head Coach-lack of discipline etc. The new head coach had no chance from the get-go. Hopefully the New AD can help get the program going in the right direction. Yes a difficult non-league schedule but one of the toughest? I would say I've seen many teams play a tough schedule. In the FAC, Chillicothe and Jackson has played difficult schedules as well.


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Circleville just rehabbed their football program by playing the cellar of the SVC. Maybe WCH can do the same!


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I have heard nothing but negative things from the current HC. When you watch the games the lack of preparation and scheme is terrible. I get WCH doesn't have the athletes they did in the past but going from 6-7-8 win seasons to not even being able to complete and having a running clock put on you every week is terrible. Trace is going to embarrass Court House this year.

Their football program has become a total joke. Does Chuck Williamson get a call to come back to WCH to try and revive the current dying program? I know that if Williamson came back some of the old staff would come back as well and that would get more players out. The old DC now HC at Westland (Division 1 in Central Ohio) seem to be doing a great job at 4-1 could we give him a call? What about Dye from Paint Valley? This town deserves better football than they are currently getting, that is for sure.
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jose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:04 pm A lot of the issues stem from the previous Head Coach-lack of discipline etc. The new head coach had no chance from the get-go. Hopefully the New AD can help get the program going in the right direction. Yes a difficult non-league schedule but one of the toughest? I would say I've seen many teams play a tough schedule. In the FAC, Chillicothe and Jackson has played difficult schedules as well.
Schedule wise I am just talking about court house. Yes Jackson and chillicothe both play tough schedules as well.


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formerfcfan wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:06 pm Circleville just rehabbed their football program by playing the cellar of the SVC. Maybe WCH can do the same!
From what I have been told m, circleville and court house start playing again week 2 next year


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go court house wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:14 pm
jose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:04 pm A lot of the issues stem from the previous Head Coach-lack of discipline etc. The new head coach had no chance from the get-go. Hopefully the New AD can help get the program going in the right direction. Yes a difficult non-league schedule but one of the toughest? I would say I've seen many teams play a tough schedule. In the FAC, Chillicothe and Jackson has played difficult schedules as well.
Schedule wise I am just talking about court house. Yes Jackson and chillicothe both play tough schedules as well.

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So schedule 5 cupcakes? Really There are numerous reasons why WCH has issues and need to be fixed but scheduling 5 cupcakes? How about fixing the issues, working harder and getting better?


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jose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:33 pm
go court house wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:14 pm
jose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:04 pm A lot of the issues stem from the previous Head Coach-lack of discipline etc. The new head coach had no chance from the get-go. Hopefully the New AD can help get the program going in the right direction. Yes a difficult non-league schedule but one of the toughest? I would say I've seen many teams play a tough schedule. In the FAC, Chillicothe and Jackson has played difficult schedules as well.
Schedule wise I am just talking about court house. Yes Jackson and chillicothe both play tough schedules as well.

/quote]

So schedule 5 cupcakes? Really There are numerous reasons why WCH has issues and need to be fixed but scheduling 5 cupcakes? How about fixing the issues, working harder and getting better?
That wasn't me who said schedule 5 cupcakes. I believe in testing yourself, but being smart about it.


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It amazes me that jose it once again blaming a past coaching staff. That staff won games, not to mention I think 6-1 versus the rival, scheduled games they could compete in and win except maybe the Westerville North game that wasn't a smart pick up. Help student-athletes go on college visits, take those kids to the visits and got them opportunities to further their education and continue playing the sport they grew up to love at the next level. People need to take responsibility in raising their own children, but since they can't it seems to always be a coaches fault. A lot the issues start at home, coaches of any sport in high school shouldn't have to deal with the discipline of home life at practices or at games, but its the world we live in so must try to deal with it the best way possible. People always blaming others.


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First and Goal wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:38 am It amazes me that jose it once again blaming a past coaching staff. That staff won games, not to mention I think 6-1 versus the rival, scheduled games they could compete in and win except maybe the Westerville North game that wasn't a smart pick up. Help student-athletes go on college visits, take those kids to the visits and got them opportunities to further their education and continue playing the sport they grew up to love at the next level. People need to take responsibility in raising their own children, but since they can't it seems to always be a coaches fault. A lot the issues start at home, coaches of any sport in high school shouldn't have to deal with the discipline of home life at practices or at games, but its the world we live in so must try to deal with it the best way possible. People always blaming others.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying, it absolutely starts at home. But once those attitudes come onto the field of play, it MUST be the coaches who deal with it. When things happen on the field, at practice coaches have to discipline them. It has been stated by the great Randy Young many times on his broadcasts that discipline Under Chuck was TERRIBLE, no one was held accountable. That is where Chuck lost a lot of people. Won a lot of games but the rest of the product was bad. They also never won big games. never beat Jackson, Lost to chillicothe more than they won, never beat London.


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jose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:33 pm
go court house wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:14 pm
jose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:04 pm A lot of the issues stem from the previous Head Coach-lack of discipline etc. The new head coach had no chance from the get-go. Hopefully the New AD can help get the program going in the right direction. Yes a difficult non-league schedule but one of the toughest? I would say I've seen many teams play a tough schedule. In the FAC, Chillicothe and Jackson has played difficult schedules as well.
Schedule wise I am just talking about court house. Yes Jackson and chillicothe both play tough schedules as well.

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So schedule 5 cupcakes? Really There are numerous reasons why WCH has issues and need to be fixed but scheduling 5 cupcakes? How about fixing the issues, working harder and getting better?
I don’t think anyone said schedule 5 cupcake, I said might have to schedule a cupcake type schedule for 2-3 years. Now if you insinuated that meant 5 cupcake teams that’s on you and trying to be cool guy. Cupcake type schedule would consist of grabbing a couple teams that are just 2-3 win teams, then 2 more who are around .500 each year and then grab you a 7/8 plus win team each year. Build confidence, build numbers and here’s the reality if the situation right now for WCH they are that cupcake team so no you’re not doing any disservice to your team by building up from there.


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You improve your varsity team by improving your feeder program. Who’s coaching the junior high teams? What biddy ball league are they in, and who’s coaching those teams? What’s the 3-8 philosophy you’re instilling? How many schemes and different verbiage are kids forced to learn and unlearn?

Unless you can recruit kids raised in other systems, you have to improve yours. If a varsity coach takes interest in kids when they hit freshman year, it’s too late.

I don’t know if this is WCHs problem. But the teams that are consistently good have consistently good youth programs.


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greygoose wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:42 pm
jose wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:33 pm
go court house wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:14 pm
Schedule wise I am just talking about court house. Yes Jackson and chillicothe both play tough schedules as well.

/quote]

So schedule 5 cupcakes? Really There are numerous reasons why WCH has issues and need to be fixed but scheduling 5 cupcakes? How about fixing the issues, working harder and getting better?
I don’t think anyone said schedule 5 cupcake, I said might have to schedule a cupcake type schedule for 2-3 years. Now if you insinuated that meant 5 cupcake teams that’s on you and trying to be cool guy. Cupcake type schedule would consist of grabbing a couple teams that are just 2-3 win teams, then 2 more who are around .500 each year and then grab you a 7/8 plus win team each year. Build confidence, build numbers and here’s the reality if the situation right now for WCH they are that cupcake team so no you’re not doing any disservice to your team by building up from there.
Maybe the reason WCH has become a bad program is because of the isssues that were allowed to feaster from the Williamson's years.


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First and Goal wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:38 am It amazes me that jose it once again blaming a past coaching staff. That staff won games, not to mention I think 6-1 versus the rival, scheduled games they could compete in and win except maybe the Westerville North game that wasn't a smart pick up. Help student-athletes go on college visits, take those kids to the visits and got them opportunities to further their education and continue playing the sport they grew up to love at the next level. People need to take responsibility in raising their own children, but since they can't it seems to always be a coaches fault. A lot the issues start at home, coaches of any sport in high school shouldn't have to deal with the discipline of home life at practices or at games, but its the world we live in so must try to deal with it the best way possible. People always blaming others.
I watched went on with previous coaching staff. Zero discipline, brought in transfers every year, turned a blind eye to kids when they got in trouble. So yes that regime only cared about winning and now the program is paying for it. Yes it does start at home as well but most of the issues started several years ago.


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One thing that attracts a quality coach to a school district is good leadership from the administration. I have heard great things about the new AD that WCH has hired and he has quite the resume. I have heard good things about their HS Admin staff as well. I would think that some quality coaches would be willing to coach under Mr. Kimling's leadership. Maybe a new coach would be able to get some of the athletes walking the hallways to join the football team. Unfortunately for Coach Everson it doesn't seem like he is in a situation that he can get turned around due to lack of support and lack of buy-in. It will take a reset with a new head coach and new staff to get the Blue Lions back to being a respectable program in my opinion.


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jose wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:03 am
First and Goal wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:38 am It amazes me that jose it once again blaming a past coaching staff. That staff won games, not to mention I think 6-1 versus the rival, scheduled games they could compete in and win except maybe the Westerville North game that wasn't a smart pick up. Help student-athletes go on college visits, take those kids to the visits and got them opportunities to further their education and continue playing the sport they grew up to love at the next level. People need to take responsibility in raising their own children, but since they can't it seems to always be a coaches fault. A lot the issues start at home, coaches of any sport in high school shouldn't have to deal with the discipline of home life at practices or at games, but its the world we live in so must try to deal with it the best way possible. People always blaming others.
I watched went on with previous coaching staff. Zero discipline, brought in transfers every year, turned a blind eye to kids when they got in trouble. So yes that regime only cared about winning and now the program is paying for it. Yes it does start at home as well but most of the issues started several years ago.
So you're basing your opinion on what you watched. Move on, go argue with someone else who only watched and doesn't know much of the insight in the school and on the field when it came to discipline. I'm not denying transfers, but do you even know how a transfer happens from school to school? Did you even take the time to find out some of those kids home lives before they wanted to transfer? It isn't the coach that can approve of it. Go cry to Ironton or Jackson about transfers. You never liked Williamson from the beginning. He left the program in a winning status and it got destroyed in less than a year, now its into a 2nd year and getting worse. Many have asked if he'd come back. Why would you go back to something you had to build back up, got run into the ground and have re-build again. Move on, cry about the real problems.


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First and Goal wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:20 am
jose wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:03 am
First and Goal wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:38 am It amazes me that jose it once again blaming a past coaching staff. That staff won games, not to mention I think 6-1 versus the rival, scheduled games they could compete in and win except maybe the Westerville North game that wasn't a smart pick up. Help student-athletes go on college visits, take those kids to the visits and got them opportunities to further their education and continue playing the sport they grew up to love at the next level. People need to take responsibility in raising their own children, but since they can't it seems to always be a coaches fault. A lot the issues start at home, coaches of any sport in high school shouldn't have to deal with the discipline of home life at practices or at games, but its the world we live in so must try to deal with it the best way possible. People always blaming others.
I watched went on with previous coaching staff. Zero discipline, brought in transfers every year, turned a blind eye to kids when they got in trouble. So yes that regime only cared about winning and now the program is paying for it. Yes it does start at home as well but most of the issues started several years ago.
So you're basing your opinion on what you watched. Move on, go argue with someone else who only watched and doesn't know much of the insight in the school and on the field when it came to discipline. I'm not denying transfers, but do you even know how a transfer happens from school to school? Did you even take the time to find out some of those kids home lives before they wanted to transfer? It isn't the coach that can approve of it. Go cry to Ironton or Jackson about transfers. You never liked Williamson from the beginning. He left the program in a winning status and it got destroyed in less than a year, now its into a 2nd year and getting worse. Many have asked if he'd come back. Why would you go back to something you had to build back up, got run into the ground and have re-build again. Move on, cry about the real problems.

What are the real problems? I truly want to know what you think is going on. But, to act as if discipline was not a problem under Chuck is just flat out wrong. There was a Mandate given by the district for Everson to clean the program up. That is a fact as I was told by the Board member who told him to clean it up. I dont hear too many people who want Chuck back. I do hear plenty that think Coach Everson will not work out here. There are a lot of things that are out of his control, but I also think that there is plenty that he could be doing different. I do believe he will be gone at the end of the year.


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I heard from folks at Jackson that they will not be playing a JV game against WCH due to WCH not having enough kids for a JV team, and that they also cancelled their JV season entirely. If so that’s extremely unfortunate for the underclassmen who come to practice every day to help prepare the varsity team and then not get to play any games of their own. That will only continue the decline in numbers in the program in my opinion. You need your younger kids getting experience.


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